APS Middle School Boundaries?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

That's merely wishful thinking!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

That's merely wishful thinking!

I am curious what that would look like, hypothetically. Like the DC lottery for elementary schools. I’m guessing a huge preference for the closest elementary school to your house, which would keep bus routes pretty efficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

That's merely wishful thinking!

Not me. I don’t wish for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they will do this in conjunction with high school alignment changes. It made no sense to do one without considering the other at the same time.

Good luck with that. Alignment to high school will be a tall order.

If they move immersion to Kenmore, that will be ANOTHER roadblock to the needed 4th high school. It’s so short sighted. That’s the only site they have, and they will need the seats unless DC shuts down and never opens again and everyone moves away.

[Anonymous]

Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

That's merely wishful thinking!

I am curious what that would look like, hypothetically. Like the DC lottery for elementary schools. I’m guessing a huge preference for the closest elementary school to your house, which would keep bus routes pretty efficient.

MontCo uses this for parts of its system. But Cambridge MA is the typical standard reference.
The vast majority get their first or second choice; but they also use balancing criteria to achieve economic diversity and can also balance boy/girl ratios. They can set it up however they want (barring race and religion, of course).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

That's merely wishful thinking!

I am curious what that would look like, hypothetically. Like the DC lottery for elementary schools. I’m guessing a huge preference for the closest elementary school to your house, which would keep bus routes pretty efficient.

MontCo uses this for parts of its system. But Cambridge MA is the typical standard reference.
The vast majority get their first or second choice; but they also use balancing criteria to achieve economic diversity and can also balance boy/girl ratios. They can set it up however they want (barring race and religion, of course).

It a great way to address overcrowding, nothing will empty our schools out faster for FFX and private than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

The diagram I saw imagined he bused PUs as a river, flowing around the walk zone islands. Basically bus for WMS could be coming from what used to be a Kenmore or TJ PU even, and just flow up to WMS around walkzones. It actually reduced the overall demand for buses in the system because the routes allowed for more effective utilization for each bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

The diagram I saw imagined he bused PUs as a river, flowing around the walk zone islands. Basically bus for WMS could be coming from what used to be a Kenmore or TJ PU even, and just flow up to WMS around walkzones. It actually reduced the overall demand for buses in the system because the routes allowed for more effective utilization for each bus.

Um, that is bonkers. If you don't happen to be "lucky" enough to live in a walk zone you're going to get bused where ever you fit. Sure, no one will have any problem with that. We want neighborhood schools EXCEPT if you're not in the walk zone then you're not part of the neighborhood and go where ever you fit in. Also, option students you should also piss off and go where ever you fit. Walkers are the priority above all else. But also I will drive my kid a bunch whenever it works for me. Thanks APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

The diagram I saw imagined he bused PUs as a river, flowing around the walk zone islands. Basically bus for WMS could be coming from what used to be a Kenmore or TJ PU even, and just flow up to WMS around walkzones. It actually reduced the overall demand for buses in the system because the routes allowed for more effective utilization for each bus.

Dumb ass idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They paused the boundaries discussion for a year according to the new board docs.

Why do they do things like this? Get everyone riled up and then punt. Awful.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/2023-ms-boundaries/

Their reasoning..

This statement can’t say this out loud but this also allows them to move elementary boundaries around at the same time if Nottingham closes. So this would seem to indicate they are full speed ahead on that.

They are implementing full option for all schools, like San Francisco.

no they're not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

The diagram I saw imagined he bused PUs as a river, flowing around the walk zone islands. Basically bus for WMS could be coming from what used to be a Kenmore or TJ PU even, and just flow up to WMS around walkzones. It actually reduced the overall demand for buses in the system because the routes allowed for more effective utilization for each bus.

Um, that is bonkers. If you don't happen to be "lucky" enough to live in a walk zone you're going to get bused where ever you fit. Sure, no one will have any problem with that. We want neighborhood schools EXCEPT if you're not in the walk zone then you're not part of the neighborhood and go where ever you fit in. Also, option students you should also piss off and go where ever you fit. Walkers are the priority above all else. But also I will drive my kid a bunch whenever it works for me. Thanks APS.

Huge exaggeration. They wouldn't be bused wherever. You be bused to the closest school with room.

[Anonymous]

Let's refresh everyone on what a neighborhood-school is supposed to be about. We are all supposed to live near each other and its supposed to be a community. If I am in a PU that gets bused to TJ I don't want to now get bused to freaking Williamsburg and not be with any people near me just so some N Arlington jerks can still walk to school.

I'm sure that's just a rumor but it's freaking outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest proposal I saw was basically preserving walk zones, and then just rotating bused PUs to balance enrollment. Seems likely they are ignoring alignment since it’s too difficult without more capacity in upper schools.

Where did you see this? How do they fill Williamsburg without dipping into some walk zones? There's nowhere to go but Swanson or Hamm walk zones. They need a lot of PUs to move to Williamsburg.

The diagram I saw imagined he bused PUs as a river, flowing around the walk zone islands. Basically bus for WMS could be coming from what used to be a Kenmore or TJ PU even, and just flow up to WMS around walkzones. It actually reduced the overall demand for buses in the system because the routes allowed for more effective utilization for each bus.

Um, that is bonkers. If you don't happen to be "lucky" enough to live in a walk zone you're going to get bused where ever you fit. Sure, no one will have any problem with that. We want neighborhood schools EXCEPT if you're not in the walk zone then you're not part of the neighborhood and go where ever you fit in. Also, option students you should also piss off and go where ever you fit. Walkers are the priority above all else. But also I will drive my kid a bunch whenever it works for me. Thanks APS.

Huge exaggeration. They wouldn't be bused wherever. You be bused to the closest school with room.

Oh, ok that's way better. (It's not.) I have to leave my school and community to go to Williamsburg so you can still walk? APS can certainly pass a policy saying above all else the priority is keeping walk zones going to their schools, but they haven't done so yet and would get a lot of objection for reasons obvious to most people. But whatever diagram is going around sounds well thought out.