School Asking DC To Mask To Accomodate An Other

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Anonymous wrote:I got an email asking my child to wear a mask in a certain class becuse another child had a 'medical situation'. If we decline, DC will be moved to another class.

Am I wrong to be put off by this? A 'medical situation', without further explanation, could be anything between luekemia and being the child of one of those drama queens that won't let go of the mask because of the politics behind it. I won't force my kid to endure another year of masking to support the latter but I would bend over backwars to accomodate the former.

How do I go about answering the request?

I'm not sure why this requires crowdsourcing. It seems very simple. Is your child willing to wear a mask for one class or not?

Ding ding, OP you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Simple request - you are given the option for your child to switch classes. Since you're so up in arms about it, make him switch classes.


*there's maybe a 50% chance that OP is another

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(another republican hack come here to stir up trouble...)

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds the same as asking your child not to bring nuts into lunch. Everyone complies with that not questions asked. Just think of it like that.

But it's just not like that. Masks impede the ability to communicate, to understand and to make yourself heard. Not eating a peanut butter sandwich just doesn't have the same short and long term impacts. And for those of us that are dealing with speech issues caused by masking in the early years, asking someone to take this on is a REALLY big ask.

And, yet, those of us who are masking still seem to have no trouble communicating.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be no big deal for my kid to wear a mask for an hour to help protect another kid's health. Win/win. Protect the other child and teach my kid to care about others.

That’s how we would handle this. I see this as an opportunity to teach our own children how to be good citizens. I say this as someone who happily ditched masks, too. I haven’t bought any in a very long time, but I would for this.

I doubt the school will face a scheduling nightmare. I’m confident plenty of families will see it from a similar perspective as mine.

Once again - a mask is (supposed to be) a health measure supported by evidence. Not an arena for you to prove your virtue. And of course archly disparage the kids who find masks stressful or uncomfortable, and interfering with communication.

Teacher here. Very few kids care about masks. Most don’t find them stressful or uncomfortable. Most have no problem communicating in them. It’s the parents who have assigned meaning to masks, and the rare times I had a student complain during Covid it was because they were parroting their parents. It wasn’t because they actually cared.

wrong. I never said anything to my kid about masks, and he on his own told me he never wanted to wear them again. and the masks definitely impacted classroom behavior and instruction.

I’m guessing you are making your assumptions of zero time in schools and classrooms. Students may not WANT to wear masks, but most really didn’t care. The students who were most vocal and angry about it had parents who were vocal and angry. I’m guessing your child simply mirrored your feelings. I saw it over and over for two years.

So kids don't care, except the ones that do! And you saw it over and over so must have been several kids. So, you're saying kids actually do care? Most kids are just rule followers and don't question authority. Don't mistake that for indifference. Been around kids much?

Hmmm… I had 3 care that I can recall out of over 140 students. All 3 had overbearing “masks are evil!!!!” parents. Kids learn their behaviors.

Most kids don’t read politics into mask wearing. It’s actually not that big of a deal to them. The polarization comes from adults.

Yes. I’m around kids all the time. I’d say I’m rather an expert at being around kids.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

This is ACPS.

This is for the entire school year. Something like 140 kids have to wear a mask all year for an undisclosed 'medical situation' of one kid.

I can't imagine some family telling 140 other families to wear masks whenever their kid is around in pre-Covid times. If this child is not healthy enough to go to school, the family should home school or find tutors. If it were for a week or two it'd be one thing, but to tell 140 kids they need to mask up again for an entire school year is too much. Plus most kids don't wear masks properly anyway. It's pointless. Sounds like a high drama family imposing their neurosis on everyone else.

Wow, something is seriously wrong with you if you are that uncaring.

ITS NOT ABOUT CARING. when will you weirdos get it through your head that a mask is not a symbol proving your morality.

I'm not the poster you are responding to but actually it is about caring. You act as if this is the first time society has been faced with trying to figure out how people who are different from each other can coexist together.


Obviously this would be much easier for all of us to Monday night quarterback if we knew what the medical situation was, but we don't. Try a little compassion and thinking about how we can coexist rather than everyone different from you needs to home school.

The point is that peer mask mandates are *ineffective.* A mask is not a way ro demonstrate compassion. And we do not give limitless accomodations for disabled students - my child IS disabled, and I know there are clear limits as to what I can expect other kids to have to do. And of course, your little self-righteous screed is based on the fiction that masking is easy and doesn’t impose any burdens. Which is not true.

Sadly I am too familiar with the limits of accommodations for students who need them. I also have a child for whom masking was very difficult and, IMO, had some delays as a result. It is possible to have experience on both sides of the masking debate.

I suppose surgeons in operating rooms wear masks because they are ineffective?

So, your wishes Trump someone else's needs. You could work with your child to get used to them. Maybe your attitude is the problem. The simple solution is to ask out o that classroom. No need for drama. As a parent whose child needs accommodations its appalling your lack of concern for someone else's when you want your child's needs met.

I think you misread my comments. I'm in favor of masking to protect the child in OP's school. I'm not OP. My child did mask regularly even through part of last year. They were so used to masks they had a hard time giving it up. And, there were some delays for them as a result. We're working to address them. My point was that I know masking has challenges. It is still the right thing to do sometimes even when it imposes burdens.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes let’s keep putting the largest measures on children. Is this child going to go anywhere else? If so, making their classmates mask is performative at best and harmful at worst.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:Under IDEA a student with a medical disability is entitled to request this accommodation and can sue the school division if they don’t comply.

My kid has been asked to do the same for a class and has so problem masking.

No, this is not right. Under sec. 504 they can request peer masking and the school has to engage in a process to consider whether it is reasonable, but the school does NOT have to grant it.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be no big deal for my kid to wear a mask for an hour to help protect another kid's health. Win/win. Protect the other child and teach my kid to care about others.

That’s how we would handle this. I see this as an opportunity to teach our own children how to be good citizens. I say this as someone who happily ditched masks, too. I haven’t bought any in a very long time, but I would for this.

I doubt the school will face a scheduling nightmare. I’m confident plenty of families will see it from a similar perspective as mine.

Once again - a mask is (supposed to be) a health measure supported by evidence. Not an arena for you to prove your virtue. And of course archly disparage the kids who find masks stressful or uncomfortable, and interfering with communication.

Teacher here. Very few kids care about masks. Most don’t find them stressful or uncomfortable. Most have no problem communicating in them. It’s the parents who have assigned meaning to masks, and the rare times I had a student complain during Covid it was because they were parroting their parents. It wasn’t because they actually cared.

wrong. I never said anything to my kid about masks, and he on his own told me he never wanted to wear them again. and the masks definitely impacted classroom behavior and instruction.

I’m guessing you are making your assumptions of zero time in schools and classrooms. Students may not WANT to wear masks, but most really didn’t care. The students who were most vocal and angry about it had parents who were vocal and angry. I’m guessing your child simply mirrored your feelings. I saw it over and over for two years.

So kids don't care, except the ones that do! And you saw it over and over so must have been several kids. So, you're saying kids actually do care? Most kids are just rule followers and don't question authority. Don't mistake that for indifference. Been around kids much?

Hmmm… I had 3 care that I can recall out of over 140 students. All 3 had overbearing “masks are evil!!!!” parents. Kids learn their behaviors.

Most kids don’t read politics into mask wearing. It’s actually not that big of a deal to them. The polarization comes from adults.

Yes. I’m around kids all the time. I’d say I’m rather an expert at being around kids.

it’s very telling that you consider “politics” the only reason people/kids wouldn’t want to mask.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be no big deal for my kid to wear a mask for an hour to help protect another kid's health. Win/win. Protect the other child and teach my kid to care about others.

That’s how we would handle this. I see this as an opportunity to teach our own children how to be good citizens. I say this as someone who happily ditched masks, too. I haven’t bought any in a very long time, but I would for this.

I doubt the school will face a scheduling nightmare. I’m confident plenty of families will see it from a similar perspective as mine.

Once again - a mask is (supposed to be) a health measure supported by evidence. Not an arena for you to prove your virtue. And of course archly disparage the kids who find masks stressful or uncomfortable, and interfering with communication.

Teacher here. Very few kids care about masks. Most don’t find them stressful or uncomfortable. Most have no problem communicating in them. It’s the parents who have assigned meaning to masks, and the rare times I had a student complain during Covid it was because they were parroting their parents. It wasn’t because they actually cared.

wrong. I never said anything to my kid about masks, and he on his own told me he never wanted to wear them again. and the masks definitely impacted classroom behavior and instruction.

I’m guessing you are making your assumptions of zero time in schools and classrooms. Students may not WANT to wear masks, but most really didn’t care. The students who were most vocal and angry about it had parents who were vocal and angry. I’m guessing your child simply mirrored your feelings. I saw it over and over for two years.

So kids don't care, except the ones that do! And you saw it over and over so must have been several kids. So, you're saying kids actually do care? Most kids are just rule followers and don't question authority. Don't mistake that for indifference. Been around kids much?

Hmmm… I had 3 care that I can recall out of over 140 students. All 3 had overbearing “masks are evil!!!!” parents. Kids learn their behaviors.

Most kids don’t read politics into mask wearing. It’s actually not that big of a deal to them. The polarization comes from adults.

Yes. I’m around kids all the time. I’d say I’m rather an expert at being around kids.

it’s very telling that you consider “politics” the only reason people/kids wouldn’t want to mask.

Honesty, for the most vocal in the school that’s really what it comes down to.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be no big deal for my kid to wear a mask for an hour to help protect another kid's health. Win/win. Protect the other child and teach my kid to care about others.

That’s how we would handle this. I see this as an opportunity to teach our own children how to be good citizens. I say this as someone who happily ditched masks, too. I haven’t bought any in a very long time, but I would for this.

I doubt the school will face a scheduling nightmare. I’m confident plenty of families will see it from a similar perspective as mine.

Once again - a mask is (supposed to be) a health measure supported by evidence. Not an arena for you to prove your virtue. And of course archly disparage the kids who find masks stressful or uncomfortable, and interfering with communication.

Teacher here. Very few kids care about masks. Most don’t find them stressful or uncomfortable. Most have no problem communicating in them. It’s the parents who have assigned meaning to masks, and the rare times I had a student complain during Covid it was because they were parroting their parents. It wasn’t because they actually cared.

wrong. I never said anything to my kid about masks, and he on his own told me he never wanted to wear them again. and the masks definitely impacted classroom behavior and instruction.

I’m guessing you are making your assumptions of zero time in schools and classrooms. Students may not WANT to wear masks, but most really didn’t care. The students who were most vocal and angry about it had parents who were vocal and angry. I’m guessing your child simply mirrored your feelings. I saw it over and over for two years.

So kids don't care, except the ones that do! And you saw it over and over so must have been several kids. So, you're saying kids actually do care? Most kids are just rule followers and don't question authority. Don't mistake that for indifference. Been around kids much?

Hmmm… I had 3 care that I can recall out of over 140 students. All 3 had overbearing “masks are evil!!!!” parents. Kids learn their behaviors.

Most kids don’t read politics into mask wearing. It’s actually not that big of a deal to them. The polarization comes from adults.

Yes. I’m around kids all the time. I’d say I’m rather an expert at being around kids.

it’s very telling that you consider “politics” the only reason people/kids wouldn’t want to mask.

Honesty, for the most vocal in the school that’s really what it comes down to.

Funny how 90% of kids dropped the mask immediately when the mandate ended …

[Anonymous]

Wearing a mask hides your face, making it impossible to read expressions, and for other kids to read yours. It also muffles the voice, making it hard to understand and be understood. Not worth it if you’re healthy.

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Absolutely, one hundred percent no to masking of a child. Our pediatrician no longer requires it. Our specialist at Children's National no longer requires it. ACPS has jumped the shark to even ask. Instead of paying lawyers to defend against the need to send children who truly need placements outside of failing ACPS schools, the district should choose to pay those lawyers to defend the notion that asking kids to mask is not a reasonable accommodation. Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Wearing a mask hides your face, making it impossible to read expressions, and for other kids to read yours. It also muffles the voice, making it hard to understand and be understood. Not worth it if you’re healthy.

It is worth not getting sick for a week.


NIH:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8892938/

Interesting enough this states" However, children aged 7 to 13 years have been shown to be able to make accurate inferences about the emotions of others with partially covered faces"

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Anonymous wrote:Wearing a mask hides your face, making it impossible to read expressions, and for other kids to read yours. It also muffles the voice, making it hard to understand and be understood. Not worth it if you’re healthy.

It is worth not getting sick for a week.


NIH:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8892938/

Interesting enough this states" However, children aged 7 to 13 years have been shown to be able to make accurate inferences about the emotions of others with partially covered faces"

Really, you think not getting a cold for a week is worth masking of children? My profoundly speech delayed child has something they would liketo try to say but for that mask in their way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wearing a mask hides your face, making it impossible to read expressions, and for other kids to read yours. It also muffles the voice, making it hard to understand and be understood. Not worth it if you’re healthy.

It is worth not getting sick for a week.


NIH:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8892938/

Interesting enough this states" However, children aged 7 to 13 years have been shown to be able to make accurate inferences about the emotions of others with partially covered faces"

that’s not actually what the underlying study showed. that study found “ Thus, across all emotions, children were less accurate with faces that wore a mask compared to faces that were not covered.”