Is the GOP worried about its survival?

Anonymous
Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board


How is Trump pro blue collar workers?
Anonymous
heck of a message for a state that relies on travel and tourism as one of its largest industries.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:heck of a message for a state that relies on travel and tourism as one of its largest industries.



Such a stupid message. He does realize there are many other states that will happily take all those "communist" tourist dollars. Survive on maga tourists Florida if that is where the money is. Good luck.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board



I will give you #1 but only because he was willing to kowtow to authoritarians and let authoritarians take what they wanted of other countries, rather than standing up for democracy and human rights abroad.

On #2, he took a lot of credit for Operation Warp Speed (before he derided the vaccine) - he was also opposed to the various bills the Dems have passed since that reduce the costs for insulin etc - not sure how that is anti-big pharma.

On #3 - Name one thing he has done for blue collar workers.

On 4, only for the uberwealthy - for the average tax payer, he didn't do squat. And what you might claim he did do, gets sunset automatically next year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board

How is Trump anti big pharma?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board



I will give you #1 but only because he was willing to kowtow to authoritarians and let authoritarians take what they wanted of other countries, rather than standing up for democracy and human rights abroad.

On #2, he took a lot of credit for Operation Warp Speed (before he derided the vaccine) - he was also opposed to the various bills the Dems have passed since that reduce the costs for insulin etc - not sure how that is anti-big pharma.

On #3 - Name one thing he has done for blue collar workers.

On 4, only for the uberwealthy - for the average tax payer, he didn't do squat. And what you might claim he did do, gets sunset automatically next year.

That PP seems strangely unaware that Trump set the stage for the complete dehumanization of women. That’s a weird thing to omit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Marxism predates communism, yet the lwnjs on here doesn't know the difference...

Marxism is an economic and political theory that examines the flaws inherent in capitalism and seeks to identify an alternative, which he called "utopian socialism."

Marxist theories were influential in the development of socialism, which requires shared ownership by workers of the means of production.

Communism outright rejects the concept of private ownership, mandating that "the people," in fact the government, collectively own and control the production and distribution of all goods and services.

Those on the left want communism, not a constitutional republic.


OMG, you give a didactic lecture on different economic systems and still manage to mischaracterize what main stream Democrats want. Even Bernie, who considers himself a socialist, support capitalism with guardrails. We need guardrails to protect the environment, workers rights and have consumer protections. But democrats do not support public ownership of corporations etc. Yes, there are exceptions, like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.


That my friend is the definition of fascism, according to Benito Mussolini. His definition is "the merger of corporations and government. Whereby businesses are privately owned and controlled by a central government."


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board



I will give you #1 but only because he was willing to kowtow to authoritarians and let authoritarians take what they wanted of other countries, rather than standing up for democracy and human rights abroad.


On #2, he took a lot of credit for Operation Warp Speed (before he derided the vaccine) - he was also opposed to the various bills the Dems have passed since that reduce the costs for insulin etc - not sure how that is anti-big pharma.

On #3 - Name one thing he has done for blue collar workers.

On 4, only for the uberwealthy - for the average tax payer, he didn't do squat. And what you might claim he did do, gets sunset automatically next year.


Sure, how many of our closest allies are authorities? Off the top of my head, the Saudis, Kuwaitis, the Gulf States, and Turkey. Or does democracy only matter in Europe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board


He claimed all of those things, yet like everything else Trump says, they are lies.

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

Trump Sought Options for Attacking Iran to Stop Its Growing Nuclear Program: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/us/politics/trump-iran-nuclear.html

Trump had to be held back from sending in troops to fight the cartels in Mexico: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-stephen-miller-border-mexico-b1941939.html

The only reason he didn't start multiple wars, including one against our ally and neighbor, was because people smarter than him (so, anyone...) held him back.

Trump tax law cut what US drugmakers owed. Now they fear an increase.: https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/pharma-corporate-tax-jobs-tcja-oppose-biden/595899/

TRUMP BUDGET’S $235 BILLION TAX BREAK FOR BIG PHARMA, HEALTH INSURERS: https://americansfortaxfairness.org/issue/trump-budgets-235-billion-tax-break-big-pharma-health-insurers-2/

I guess if by "anti big pharma" you mean got Americans killed by undermining trust in scientifically proven vaccines" then sure. But he sure loved big pharma enough to give them billions in tax breaks.


Trump’s trade policies have cost thousands of U.S. manufacturing jobs: https://www.epi.org/press/trumps-trade-policies-have-cost-thousands-of-u-s-manufacturing-jobs-action-is-urgently-needed-to-rebuild-the-manufacturing-sector-after-the-coronavirus-pandemic/#:~:text=Nearly%201%2C800%20factories%20have%20disappeared,significantly%20between%202016%20and%202019.

Four years after Trump took office, income inequality continues to grow. And it is growing at a faster rate than during any of the last five administrations: https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/535239-how-trump-fueled-economic-inequality-in-america/

Trump will have the worst jobs record in modern U.S. history. It’s not just the pandemic.: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/08/trump-jobs-record/

Trump failed blue collar workers and workers in general.

After Decades of Costly, Regressive, and Ineffective Tax Cuts, a New Course Is Needed: https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/after-decades-of-costly-regressive-and-ineffective-tax-cuts-a-new-course-is

While the Bush tax cuts had a few benefits for the middle class, the $3 trillion identified in Trump’s plan pretty much all went to the rich. And they ended up panning out even worse than promised. They cost at least $1.9 trillion...Most of the individual measures of the Trump tax cuts will expire in 2025: https://prospect.org/economy/the-impossible-inevitable-survival-of-the-trump-tax-cuts/

Trump's tax cuts were ineffective (except for being very effective at transferring more wealth to the already wealthy) and the few parts of them that did cut taxes on individual earners expire in two years, right in the first term of what Trump assumed would be the incoming Democratic President. He never cared about taxpayers, all he wanted to do was make the rich richer and make whoever came after him take the blame for a "Tax increase."
Anonymous
I guess this is a fate for the anti-vaxx MAGA's



Of course, our healthcare system and disability will have to pick up the slack, because bootstraps or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board

I work on pharma policy and can tell you the GOP is definitely not “anti big pharma” these days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump completely turned the GOP into a growth party.

1) anti war
2) anti big pharma
3) pro blue collar workers
4) still for tax cuts

Completely flipping the board


"Anti war" yet ready to go and shoot up migrants at our border
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:heck of a message for a state that relies on travel and tourism as one of its largest industries.



Every time I hear a Republican politician open his mouth and say "communists and socialists" I can't help but ask "how on earth did this hyperbolic flapjack manage to get elected?"

It's really not a good look, Republicans. To me it's as ludicrous as referring to Republicans as "space aliens and sasquatches" and trying to do it in earnest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I guess this is a fate for the anti-vaxx MAGA's



Of course, our healthcare system and disability will have to pick up the slack, because bootstraps or something.


I don’t think it has to do with the vax. I never got food poisoning until the mass influx of immigrants, starting a few years ago. I don’t think the cooking and cleanliness standards are up to par.
post reply Forum Index » Political Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: