Is it typical for elementary to group all IEP kids together in the same class

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

The law does not require this. Schools are only required to follow the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

That lawsuit would be lost, and payment would be due upfront.

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Not all the IEP kids are in one class but typically many are due to scheduling. Speech pathologists for example cannot pull kids from lunch, recess, art, music, PE, math and reading. That doesn't leave much time especially if each grade has a different specials schedule. They are already stretched too thin with having to absorb any speech vacancies at their school.

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In our MS, the IEP kids are all in one classroom that is co-taught (smaller class size + 2 teachers).

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

The confidence with which you speak misinformation is incredible. The gen Ed classroom is the LRE

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Anonymous wrote:In our MS, the IEP kids are all in one classroom that is co-taught (smaller class size + 2 teachers).

Do they have multiple team taught classes for the the different levels of classes?
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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

The confidence with which you speak misinformation is incredible. The gen Ed classroom is the LRE

It's fascinating that apparently in Maryland a "gen ed" classroom is just whatever the school system wants it to be. This is the Illinois School Code info on gen ed classes:
A general education classroom is one that is composed of students of whom at least 70 percent are without identified special education eligibility, that utilizes the general curriculum, that is taught by an instructor certified for general education, and that is not designated as a general remedial classroom. (23 Illinois Administrative Code 226.731)

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It really must take some convoluted legal reasoning to assert that a class where 80% of students have IEPs is an LRE

LRE means that students with disabilities are educated with students without disabilities to the maximum extent appropriate. Students with disabilities must not be placed in special classes or separate schools unless education in regular education classes with supplementary aids, services, program modifications, and supports cannot be achieved satisfactorily. In selecting the LRE, consideration is given to any potential harmful effect on the student or on the quality of the services that he or she needs. The student may not be removed from education in age-appropriate general education classes solely because of needed modifications in the general curriculum.

http://olms.cte.jhu.edu/olms2/179165

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

That lawsuit would be lost, and payment would be due upfront.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Also filing complaints with DOE should be the first step.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

You should take this up with the IDEA, which specifically defines LRE as disabled students learning alongside nondisabled peers.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a 3 yo with what appear to be mild special needs and are zoned for Oakland Terrace ES in MCPS. I have seen some posts on DCUM complaining that IEP kids at this school were segregated from other children into.the same class. We do not have an IEP yet (have requested Child Find screening) but am paranoid if she gets one, this model will not work for her for a few reasons. I thought kids with IEPs should be integrated, not segregated.

This is referred to as warehousing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's very typical to group students with IEPs rather than spreading them across all classes. It's much easier to provide support that way.

Our school's philosophy is to spread out the kids across all classes so that one teacher doesn't get stuck with a high concentration of kids with IEPs. There's paperwork and meetings involved so it can take up a lot of time to have kids with IEPs in their class. If one teacher gets more one year it's because there's an inexperienced or ineffective teacher in the mix and in that situation the teacher with a higher number of kids with IEPs will also get a smaller class.

Saw this over 6 years at our elementary.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw—it does seem like the IEPs are grouped together in one class so then only one Special Ed teacher is needed in one room. I think there’s an argument that it’s not for the best for child development even though it helps the principal with staffing.

Well yes, but there's no right to "the best".

The point is that the principal is creating the restrictive environment for learning by placing 12 IEPs together.

What's restrictive about it?

They are restricting the IEP students to one specific classroom.

So, the argument is this: It is restrictive to put my "good disabled" child in a class with those other "bad disabled" children! My child is normal but those children are a problem! All the disabled children who can pass for abled should get a special classroom separate from the disabled children with disruptive disabilities! How dare they need support, too! Why must we all be lumped together when everyone knows my child is better because their disability isn't as obvious!

Which is a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Just say it plainly, you don't want your child educated with students who have disabilities, despite having a child with disabilities yourself.

Wow, you seem to have brought other baggage to this conversation.

No, I am just annoyed by the argument that some disabilities are detrimental to other students' learning, which has been brought up repeatedly in this thread. That a student needing more support somehow robs other students of support and lowers the quality of education for everyone.

Why do inclusion classrooms at all then? Wouldn't it be easier if all the kids with disabilities were separated from the kids without disabilities? Then they would have all the supports right there with them! we should actually combine the IEP kids from different elementaries if they don't have the numbers for a full class. That would make it easier for the system to provide the legally required services!

Do you get why that's something a lot of parents with kids with disabilities don't want?

The problem is that the higher need disabilities take up the majority of the time and the instruction level is geared toward them so other kids' needs aren't met. If your child is a higher need, then its great for them, but not so great for kids who need social peer modeling and on grade-level academics.

This is the exact argument people use against inclusion of any type. "Having any disabled students in the class means the teacher will spend all their time with those children and bring down the level for everyone." Do you get why a lot of parents of children with disabilities might not want people using this argument?

No one is arguing that. The discussion is is it ok for all kids with IEP's to be put in one classroom out of 3/4 classes. The correct answer is No, but it's happening anyway. The kids should be mixed up in each of the classrooms.

What we are saying is that out of the 12 kids, they should be mixed in with 3-4 in each classroom vs. all 12 being in one classroom.

+1 it is happening at our elementary school, too. All IEP students are lumped in 1 classroom out of 4.

they are not in the Least Restrictive Environment. This seems like a potential lawsuit for the school district.

It is if the class is 14 kids with no IEPs and the 5 kids with IEPs.