This is getting ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

For what...for Harvard? For MIT? That is nonsense they reject thousands with stats just like that every year.

Yes, it is nonsense that top kids are rejected from top schools.

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Parents keep pushing their kids toward doing “internships” in high school, but I don’t think they look good on a college app because it screams privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

For what...for Harvard? For MIT? That is nonsense they reject thousands with stats just like that every year.

Yes, it is nonsense that top kids are rejected from top schools.

There are a lot more top students out there than you think.

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I suggest all the downtrodden UMC white males out there stage a revolution

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Anonymous wrote:White UMC is the deal breaker. Read the news. That’s not what’s in right now.

Absolutely. White UMC is being discriminated against.

Imagine if white UMC actually had to face real discrimination. They’d all crawl up in a ball sobbing uncontrollably. You people are so weak.

There is such ignorance about the reality for white males. People who say things like the above need to look at some actual stats on this. Really, your point of view is misinformed and pretty much devoid of empathy. You don't think a white skinned person can know what it means to suffer? Your post is the essence of racism: an inability to see someone of another race as capable of suffering as much as you do.

And let's put this within the context of college admissions: it is about 10 times easier for a URM to get into a college compared to a white kid with the same stats

There has to be some societal effort to eliminate the generations of disadvantage that no individual is responsible for today, but that individuals will inevitably have to give up something (like maybe an acceptance to a top college) to help balance things. But in theory it would work by helping an URM into an elite college but the non-URM still goes to a decent college and has connections to xyz company, and both URM and non-URM end up in the same career path. Of course it’s more messy like this but on a country-wide level I think that’s the aim until it’s no longer needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

For what...for Harvard? For MIT? That is nonsense they reject thousands with stats just like that every year.

Yes, it is nonsense that top kids are rejected from top schools.

If you are talking about schools like Harvard .. top kid is not enough. Sorry. You need to be freakishly good at one thing. Like the number one seed. The best debater. The top science research prize. The fastest mile time. Etc. Etc. This student sounds very impressive but if he is not one of the number one freaks ..it is not enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

So do a hundred thousand other kids who want the same spots. What does your kid offer beyond the stats? THAT is what the colleges are looking at. Period.

You are saying that all the DEI URMs have the stats necessary for their school?

And it is not my kid we are talking about - it is OP's. Get it right.

Are you saying they don't?

Most do not. Look it up. If you know how.

NP--If they are admitted, they ipso facto have the stats necessary for that school.

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Anonymous wrote:White UMC is the deal breaker. Read the news. That’s not what’s in right now.

Absolutely. White UMC is being discriminated against.

Imagine if white UMC actually had to face real discrimination. They’d all crawl up in a ball sobbing uncontrollably. You people are so weak.

There is such ignorance about the reality for white males. People who say things like the above need to look at some actual stats on this. Really, your point of view is misinformed and pretty much devoid of empathy. You don't think a white skinned person can know what it means to suffer? Your post is the essence of racism: an inability to see someone of another race as capable of suffering as much as you do.

And let's put this within the context of college admissions: it is about 10 times easier for a URM to get into a college compared to a white kid with the same stats

There has to be some societal effort to eliminate the generations of disadvantage that no individual is responsible for today, but that individuals will inevitably have to give up something (like maybe an acceptance to a top college) to help balance things. But in theory it would work by helping an URM into an elite college but the non-URM still goes to a decent college and has connections to xyz company, and both URM and non-URM end up in the same career path. Of course it’s more messy like this but on a country-wide level I think that’s the aim until it’s no longer needed.

So now all non-URMs have "connections"?? Are you a complete joke??

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White people without a high school diploma far out-earn Blacks with college degrees so AA is still needed. Your child will be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

So do a hundred thousand other kids who want the same spots. What does your kid offer beyond the stats? THAT is what the colleges are looking at. Period.

You are saying that all the DEI URMs have the stats necessary for their school?

And it is not my kid we are talking about - it is OP's. Get it right.

Are you saying they don't?

Most do not. Look it up. If you know how.

NP--If they are admitted, they ipso facto have the stats necessary for that school.

HAHAHAHAHA. You are hilarious!

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA........

Dying.

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Anonymous wrote:White people without a high school diploma far out-earn Blacks with college degrees so AA is still needed. Your child will be fine.

Not my problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

For what...for Harvard? For MIT? That is nonsense they reject thousands with stats just like that every year.

+1 And related to my comment above, if they're not admitted then they ipso facto do not have the necessary stats. GPA and test scores are not the only stats being considered. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as specific individuals or groups are not being excluded specifically because of who they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

PP here - absolutely agree with you on not being a victim. That's so disempowering and sets you up for a life of perpetual discontent.

Your argument is a straw-man. I am not sure that many of the kids who got into CS had the kind of hardships you describe. Vast majority of them don't. I know because I have been tracking a lot of Reddit college forums lately and have seen the stats and EC's of many admitted kids. May be they did a better job telling their story. But admission to CS should not be based on story telling alone. These are hard skills which require lot of passion and drive. To be clear, I have benefited from this system. My own son got into a few t20s with similar stats and I am grateful for that. But I also think this process is messed up and we owe it to future generations to fix it.

The system is messed up because qualified kids are being rejected in favor of less qualified kids.

Huh? Until this poster fesses up as to what school rejected him and what "less qualified" student took his spot ..that is bull crap. Did kid get rejected from Harvard or something? Cry us a river

Look around on campus. Yes, you are right, it absolutely stinks worse than bull crap.

You don't know where this kid was rejected from, or his story, so stop pretending to know.

He has the stats, period.

For what...for Harvard? For MIT? That is nonsense they reject thousands with stats just like that every year.

+1 And related to my comment above, if they're not admitted then they ipso facto do not have the necessary stats. GPA and test scores are not the only stats being considered. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as specific individuals or groups are not being excluded specifically because of who they are.

Nice contradiction.

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Anonymous wrote:White people without a high school diploma far out-earn Blacks with college degrees so AA is still needed. Your child will be fine.

Not my problem.

So don't worry about it. Send your kid to college and be supportive. Not going to Harvard is not a "problem".

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Anonymous wrote:White people without a high school diploma far out-earn Blacks with college degrees so AA is still needed. Your child will be fine.

Not my problem.

Yes, not your business. Private colleges can do what they want including AA. We are on the same page.