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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


VT better than UVA in hard sciences is certainly true for grad school. In my field of mechanical engineering/engineering mechanics, it's easier to get into UVA than VT and we have had a lot of students that have UVA as second choice.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. [b]I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.


It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.
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DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


DP. And the UVA boosters frequent this forum, as well as CC and reddit, spewing their usual snobbery and rude comments. It's laughable that you're trying to pretend otherwise. Just stop.




Right says the person defending the idiot that says all 27,000 students there are “jerks”. Grow up


Do you understand what "DP" means? You are talking to different posters. I never said anything of the kind. I simply said I have seen JUST AS MANY "jerk comments" from idiot UVA boosters as from the rival universities. You can't dispute that, so move along. Oh, and I've helpfully bolded my comment, for your convenience. Again - stop trying to pretend UVA boosters aren't some of the most annoying jerks on this forum.



I can dispute that because I've been watching this forum for a long time. Prove it. With a LOT of examples - because they don't exist. The only time the UVA boosters come out is when someone (usually a VT or UMD student or a bitter parent or student whose kid didn't get in) and those more knowledgeable about UVA respond in a sensible fashion and with a citaiton. Those saying the grads are all jerks never cite to anything. I'm waiting.


Serious question: WTF is your problem? I *never* said all the UVA grads are jerks. You're taking what someone else said and attributing it to others. (You're also taking this waaaay too seriously, but that's a topic for another day.) I'm not about to go research who said what jerk comments to whom. I've also been on this forum for a long time - almost two decades, in fact - and I can say with certainty that there are JUST AS MANY ahole UVA parents/students/alums tooting UVA's horn and trashing their rival schools as there are people trashing UVA. And FYI, you have now outed yourself as one of those ahole UVA boosters.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. [b]I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.


It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.
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DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


DP. And the UVA boosters frequent this forum, as well as CC and reddit, spewing their usual snobbery and rude comments. It's laughable that you're trying to pretend otherwise. Just stop.




Right says the person defending the idiot that says all 27,000 students there are “jerks”. Grow up


Do you understand what "DP" means? You are talking to different posters. I never said anything of the kind. I simply said I have seen JUST AS MANY "jerk comments" from idiot UVA boosters as from the rival universities. You can't dispute that, so move along. Oh, and I've helpfully bolded my comment, for your convenience. Again - stop trying to pretend UVA boosters aren't some of the most annoying jerks on this forum.



I can dispute that because I've been watching this forum for a long time. Prove it. With a LOT of examples - because they don't exist. The only time the UVA boosters come out is when someone (usually a VT or UMD student or a bitter parent or student whose kid didn't get in) and those more knowledgeable about UVA respond in a sensible fashion and with a citaiton. Those saying the grads are all jerks never cite to anything. I'm waiting.



See, there it goes again. The frequent "... who didn't get in."

Could it be possible that there are kids who had the stats for UVA but didn't apply?


DP. Absolutely. My kid and all his friends, for instance. None had any desire to go to UVA so didn't bother applying. And now that the PP keeps blathering on, I'm very glad they chose other schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. [b]I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.


It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.
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DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


DP. And the UVA boosters frequent this forum, as well as CC and reddit, spewing their usual snobbery and rude comments. It's laughable that you're trying to pretend otherwise. Just stop.




Right says the person defending the idiot that says all 27,000 students there are “jerks”. Grow up


Do you understand what "DP" means? You are talking to different posters. I never said anything of the kind. I simply said I have seen JUST AS MANY "jerk comments" from idiot UVA boosters as from the rival universities. You can't dispute that, so move along. Oh, and I've helpfully bolded my comment, for your convenience. Again - stop trying to pretend UVA boosters aren't some of the most annoying jerks on this forum.



I can dispute that because I've been watching this forum for a long time. Prove it. With a LOT of examples - because they don't exist. The only time the UVA boosters come out is when someone (usually a VT or UMD student or a bitter parent or student whose kid didn't get in) and those more knowledgeable about UVA respond in a sensible fashion and with a citaiton. Those saying the grads are all jerks never cite to anything. I'm waiting.


Serious question: WTF is your problem? I *never* said all the UVA grads are jerks. You're taking what someone else said and attributing it to others. (You're also taking this waaaay too seriously, but that's a topic for another day.) I'm not about to go research who said what jerk comments to whom. I've also been on this forum for a long time - almost two decades, in fact - and I can say with certainty that there are JUST AS MANY ahole UVA parents/students/alums tooting UVA's horn and trashing their rival schools as there are people trashing UVA. And FYI, you have now outed yourself as one of those ahole UVA boosters.



DP but I think you are the one who has the problem and is obsessed.
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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


Actually, CA does.



Cal Tech is private


I love VT, but VT is no Caltech, and no other Virginia school is a Caltech as well. I think the PP was referring to the options in the UC and Cal State systems.



THere is no similar option in the UC system. There are three polytech in the Cal State system but that is a huge drop from the University of California system. For those of you that don't understand, California is unique in that it has three levels of "affordable" public institutions of higher learning - the U.C. system (UCLA, CAl, etc.), the Cal State system (often starter as giant commuter schools like Cal State Fullerton that evolve into huge universities - good but not on the U.C. level) and the large community college system which provides for generous transfer options at the end of the AA degree providing you meet certain criteria.

Cal Tech is private.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. [b]I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.


It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.
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DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


DP. And the UVA boosters frequent this forum, as well as CC and reddit, spewing their usual snobbery and rude comments. It's laughable that you're trying to pretend otherwise. Just stop.




Right says the person defending the idiot that says all 27,000 students there are “jerks”. Grow up


Do you understand what "DP" means? You are talking to different posters. I never said anything of the kind. I simply said I have seen JUST AS MANY "jerk comments" from idiot UVA boosters as from the rival universities. You can't dispute that, so move along. Oh, and I've helpfully bolded my comment, for your convenience. Again - stop trying to pretend UVA boosters aren't some of the most annoying jerks on this forum.



I can dispute that because I've been watching this forum for a long time. Prove it. With a LOT of examples - because they don't exist. The only time the UVA boosters come out is when someone (usually a VT or UMD student or a bitter parent or student whose kid didn't get in) and those more knowledgeable about UVA respond in a sensible fashion and with a citaiton. Those saying the grads are all jerks never cite to anything. I'm waiting.


Serious question: WTF is your problem? I *never* said all the UVA grads are jerks. You're taking what someone else said and attributing it to others. (You're also taking this waaaay too seriously, but that's a topic for another day.) I'm not about to go research who said what jerk comments to whom. I've also been on this forum for a long time - almost two decades, in fact - and I can say with certainty that there are JUST AS MANY ahole UVA parents/students/alums tooting UVA's horn and trashing their rival schools as there are people trashing UVA. And FYI, you have now outed yourself as one of those ahole UVA boosters.



DP but I think you are the one who has the problem and is obsessed.



Right, “DP.”
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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


VT better than UVA in hard sciences is certainly true for grad school. In my field of mechanical engineering/engineering mechanics, it's easier to get into UVA than VT and we have had a lot of students that have UVA as second choice.


Physics? Chemistry? Neuroscience? I don't buy into blanket statements.
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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


VT better than UVA in hard sciences is certainly true for grad school. In my field of mechanical engineering/engineering mechanics, it's easier to get into UVA than VT and we have had a lot of students that have UVA as second choice.


Physics? Chemistry? Neuroscience? I don't buy into blanket statements.


As a scientist looking at the UVA faculty vs VT faculty I would say UVA wins hands down in all the science areas I know. Engineering is the only area I would say there are folks who might go to VT over UVA, just because of the breadth of options and classes.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.

It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.



DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


This is absolutely true. Been on this board for hmm 3 years now? No real UVA booster would actually call other kids in other schools “jerks”. That said, ALOT of people, including teens, DO come into this board just for the sole purpose of rabble rousing and starting these UVA vs… fights. The fact that some people actually decide not to apply there because if that is just a shame and ill informed. There are people who continually come on here to say that UVA is not diverse and all northern VA “high school 2.0”, and that just doesn’t describe the school today at all. I have two kids there. The detractors that say these things, don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


Actually, CA does.



Cal Tech is private


I love VT, but VT is no Caltech, and no other Virginia school is a Caltech as well. I think the PP was referring to the options in the UC and Cal State systems.



THere is no similar option in the UC system. There are three polytech in the Cal State system but that is a huge drop from the University of California system. For those of you that don't understand, California is unique in that it has three levels of "affordable" public institutions of higher learning - the U.C. system (UCLA, CAl, etc.), the Cal State system (often starter as giant commuter schools like Cal State Fullerton that evolve into huge universities - good but not on the U.C. level) and the large community college system which provides for generous transfer options at the end of the AA degree providing you meet certain criteria.

Cal Tech is private.


The California system has multiple schools, of differing levels of admission difficulty, that offer strong options in the areas where VT is strong.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.

It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.



DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


This is absolutely true. Been on this board for hmm 3 years now? No real UVA booster would actually call other kids in other schools “jerks”. That said, ALOT of people, including teens, DO come into this board just for the sole purpose of rabble rousing and starting these UVA vs… fights. The fact that some people actually decide not to apply there because if that is just a shame and ill informed. There are people who continually come on here to say that UVA is not diverse and all northern VA “high school 2.0”, and that just doesn’t describe the school today at all. I have two kids there. The detractors that say these things, don’t.


I think UVA boosters do tend to put other schools down on this board. That doesn't condone those who put UVA down.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.

It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.



DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


This is absolutely true. Been on this board for hmm 3 years now? No real UVA booster would actually call other kids in other schools “jerks”. That said, ALOT of people, including teens, DO come into this board just for the sole purpose of rabble rousing and starting these UVA vs… fights. The fact that some people actually decide not to apply there because if that is just a shame and ill informed. There are people who continually come on here to say that UVA is not diverse and all northern VA “high school 2.0”, and that just doesn’t describe the school today at all. I have two kids there. The detractors that say these things, don’t.


I think UVA boosters do tend to put other schools down on this board. That doesn't condone those who put UVA down.


NP- I don't have a dog in this fight but I see the opposite. There may be a very small minority that do this but the UVA bashing is unparalleled and off the charts.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.

It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.



DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


This is absolutely true. Been on this board for hmm 3 years now? No real UVA booster would actually call other kids in other schools “jerks”. That said, ALOT of people, including teens, DO come into this board just for the sole purpose of rabble rousing and starting these UVA vs… fights. The fact that some people actually decide not to apply there because if that is just a shame and ill informed. There are people who continually come on here to say that UVA is not diverse and all northern VA “high school 2.0”, and that just doesn’t describe the school today at all. I have two kids there. The detractors that say these things, don’t.


I think UVA boosters do tend to put other schools down on this board. That doesn't condone those who put UVA down.


NP- I don't have a dog in this fight but I see the opposite. There may be a very small minority that do this but the UVA bashing is unparalleled and off the charts.


I agree, you really don’t see uva peeps putting down other schools except to stay that if you’re in state, there is really no better value out there. My kids go to UVA, and I think it’s a great school but if someone decides to go to tech, good for them. I really don’t care where someone else goes but when you start calling kids who go to UVA names, I’m gonna react.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the UVA boosters on this board really are something else , especially with how they taunt everyone who says anything even slightly negative about the school

Ps I have zero connection - didn’t apply there myself (I attended a different ACC school) and my child isn’t going to even look


( not the PP) but when people on this board day that UVA is first at graduating jerks (over W&M), clearly you’re gonna get a reaction no? My kids attend (I didn’t) and they are absolutely not jerks, neither are their friends.


You might want to look at what the poster was responding to. UVA boosters are always starting nonsense.




No, they are not. there is a distinct pattern on this board. Someone says something nasty about UVA and those who understand college admissions correct them. It's that simple. There is a lot of envy in the DCUM area because the entering class at UVA is so small compared to other state flagships and because it has gotten so difficult to get in. Many Virginian families cannot afford the difference in tuition between $35k (all in) and $80K at the privates. Bear in mind that the difference is often paid in after tax dollars, so you aren't talking about just $45K difference per year (we had to refinance our home to send our kids to college; fortunately we could do it). So many Virginians really want to get their children into UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech and the others. We have a superb system. But the availability of slots is not like Texas, California or Michigan. Hence the bitterness that sometimes pops up on this board. Also, Virginia Tech is a rival as is UMD so those students often come on here and make "jerk" comments.

Those parents that are fortunate enough to get their kids into these schools bank the difference if they have it. We did, so have $200K+ to pay now for grad school overseas then law school. That's why you see such bitterness here .... because a lot of money is at stake.


DP. I agree with you to some extent, but the bolded is ridiculous. I have seen just as many "jerk comments" from UVA boosters/parents/students about those rival schools - anything to put down a school that isn't UVA.

It's clear to me that anyone trashing another school - unless there is obvious reason to (like Oberlin, for instance) - is simply bitter that they or their kids didn't get accepted.



DP. No, the students from rival schools do frequent here and college confidential and reddit. They are the ones who write the insipid comments like "jerks".


This is absolutely true. Been on this board for hmm 3 years now? No real UVA booster would actually call other kids in other schools “jerks”. That said, ALOT of people, including teens, DO come into this board just for the sole purpose of rabble rousing and starting these UVA vs… fights. The fact that some people actually decide not to apply there because if that is just a shame and ill informed. There are people who continually come on here to say that UVA is not diverse and all northern VA “high school 2.0”, and that just doesn’t describe the school today at all. I have two kids there. The detractors that say these things, don’t.


I think UVA boosters do tend to put other schools down on this board. That doesn't condone those who put UVA down.


NP- I don't have a dog in this fight but I see the opposite. There may be a very small minority that do this but the UVA bashing is unparalleled and off the charts.


I agree, you really don’t see uva peeps putting down other schools except to stay that if you’re in state, there is really no better value out there. My kids go to UVA, and I think it’s a great school but if someone decides to go to tech, good for them. I really don’t care where someone else goes but when you start calling kids who go to UVA names, I’m gonna react.


I've seen plenty of put downs - both ways.
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Anonymous wrote:For what my child wants, the only school on this list that has the mix of degree programs in the majors/minors she wants is JMU and her getting in would be a big long shot.

Radford is actually the best for her as a state school and probably Shenandoah a very close second.

No, she isn’t a top student. I guess I don’t belong here, according to most, right?


Yes you do.

Best wishes to your daughter. Hopes she finds the best fit - for her.


Thank you. We are currently in another state getting ready to look at a school today. I have worked very hard to put together a list of target schools that fit her criteria and she hopefully has a shot of getting into. Hoping that seeing the schools will motivate her to do a little better in school this year.


I don't know about jerks but my kid nephew chose VT instead of UVA for engineering and I know 4 of his other friends that did the same. UVA has a lot of catching up to do in hard sciences.


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Actually, 1) it doesn't - you are behind the times. Go see what Jim Ryan has been doing; and 2) that's why Virginia Tech exists. California and Michigan don't have a Virginia Tech


VT better than UVA in hard sciences is certainly true for grad school. In my field of mechanical engineering/engineering mechanics, it's easier to get into UVA than VT and we have had a lot of students that have UVA as second choice.


Physics? Chemistry? Neuroscience? I don't buy into blanket statements.


As a scientist looking at the UVA faculty vs VT faculty I would say UVA wins hands down in all the science areas I know. Engineering is the only area I would say there are folks who might go to VT over UVA, just because of the breadth of options and classes.


DP. This has got to be a troll post. Surely you don’t think people are taking you seriously? “Might” go to VT over UVA? VT is the top choice for many students, for a multitude of reasons.
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