Can a sixth grader take algebra 1?

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

Except there are no DCC feeders that offer this. Please name one. The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th do so to accommodate kids from Potomac who already had AIM in 5th.

Oak View allows a very small number of kids to do this, or at least did as of a year ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

Well it sure seems that way because at TPMS the only kids in 6th grade Algebra all came from one Potomac school that offered AIM in 5th. Even though DC has a very high MAP-M score (well above the 250 required by Frost) we were told they needed to take AIM first.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC, arising sixth grader found out today that her classmate is registered to take Algebra 1 as a rising sixth grader. My DC and the classmate were in the same elementary school math program and class last school year (compacted math). So can my child also take algebra 1 and if so how to talk with the counselor to make the change (she is currently registered for AIM6)?

Yes, your child can if they have the test scores and teacher recommendations to back it up. Just remember though what this means for your child's trajectory. HS requires 4 years of math.. so you better be sure your child will be okay with taking all those classes beyond calculus. Also, Algebra 1 grades and beyond start counting towards the HS GPA so make sure your kid can handle it and get good grades. My kid took Algebra 1 in 7th grade, Geometry in 8th and now she's in Algebra 2 as a 9th grader. Looking back, we think she would've been better off going the regular track. We assumed she was more of a math/science type back then however it's no longer her primary interest.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

Well it sure seems that way because at TPMS the only kids in 6th grade Algebra all came from one Potomac school that offered AIM in 5th. Even though DC has a very high MAP-M score (well above the 250 required by Frost) we were told they needed to take AIM first.

At one point, TPMS was letting kids test into Algebra but now it seems they are one of the MSs that want kids to have completed AIM before taking Algebra. So, that means only kids who either attended CSES or who were in one of the elementary schools that let kids bus to a middle school in 5th.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

Yes, this is mainly just available at affluent Potomac schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC, arising sixth grader found out today that her classmate is registered to take Algebra 1 as a rising sixth grader. My DC and the classmate were in the same elementary school math program and class last school year (compacted math). So can my child also take algebra 1 and if so how to talk with the counselor to make the change (she is currently registered for AIM6)?

Yes, your child can if they have the test scores and teacher recommendations to back it up. Just remember though what this means for your child's trajectory. HS requires 4 years of math.. so you better be sure your child will be okay with taking all those classes beyond calculus. Also, Algebra 1 grades and beyond start counting towards the HS GPA so make sure your kid can handle it and get good grades. My kid took Algebra 1 in 7th grade, Geometry in 8th and now she's in Algebra 2 as a 9th grader. Looking back, we think she would've been better off going the regular track. We assumed she was more of a math/science type back then however it's no longer her primary interest.

My kid was mostly bored to tears in Compacted and should've skipped ahead, but in the end, I didn't think it really mattered. I suspect they'll end up in the exact same place by 9th even if they had skipped a year.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC, arising sixth grader found out today that her classmate is registered to take Algebra 1 as a rising sixth grader. My DC and the classmate were in the same elementary school math program and class last school year (compacted math). So can my child also take algebra 1 and if so how to talk with the counselor to make the change (she is currently registered for AIM6)?

Yes, your child can if they have the test scores and teacher recommendations to back it up. Just remember though what this means for your child's trajectory. HS requires 4 years of math.. so you better be sure your child will be okay with taking all those classes beyond calculus. Also, Algebra 1 grades and beyond start counting towards the HS GPA so make sure your kid can handle it and get good grades. My kid took Algebra 1 in 7th grade, Geometry in 8th and now she's in Algebra 2 as a 9th grader. Looking back, we think she would've been better off going the regular track. We assumed she was more of a math/science type back then however it's no longer her primary interest.

My kid was mostly bored to tears in Compacted and should've skipped ahead, but in the end, I didn't think it really mattered. I suspect they'll end up in the exact same place by 9th even if they had skipped a year.

It does make a difference though when it comes to their math track in HS.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC, arising sixth grader found out today that her classmate is registered to take Algebra 1 as a rising sixth grader. My DC and the classmate were in the same elementary school math program and class last school year (compacted math). So can my child also take algebra 1 and if so how to talk with the counselor to make the change (she is currently registered for AIM6)?

Yes, your child can if they have the test scores and teacher recommendations to back it up. Just remember though what this means for your child's trajectory. HS requires 4 years of math.. so you better be sure your child will be okay with taking all those classes beyond calculus. Also, Algebra 1 grades and beyond start counting towards the HS GPA so make sure your kid can handle it and get good grades. My kid took Algebra 1 in 7th grade, Geometry in 8th and now she's in Algebra 2 as a 9th grader. Looking back, we think she would've been better off going the regular track. We assumed she was more of a math/science type back then however it's no longer her primary interest.

My kid was mostly bored to tears in Compacted and should've skipped ahead, but in the end, I didn't think it really mattered. I suspect they'll end up in the exact same place by 9th even if they had skipped a year.

It does make a difference though when it comes to their math track in HS.

Not really, my older one took Algebra in 6th and completed Calc BC their Junior year. They ended up taking multivariable and stats their senior year. I guess they could've taken more math electives but not like they can get AP credit for that or anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

Yes, this is mainly just available at affluent Potomac schools.

I think you're sick.
I don't know why you repeatedly keep posting misinformation. It's like you are deliberately trying to create division.
There is exactly one school in Potomac that "allows" this. The other schools do not. It's very school dependent and there are schools in the DCC that allow it too but it's really up to the principal and the math team there.
And to the "that's odd" poster this happens to kids in Potomac, Bethesda and Chevy Chase too. Your child is not special. There was a child in my child's class who scored 290 something in 4th and was in the "regular" compacted class just last year.

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There are no schools in the whole county except for Frost that I know of that "offer" Algebra I in 6th in a pretty open way.

Quite a few other middle schools allow it for individual students on a case by case basis. No, TPMS does not offer it. Neither do any of the other magnets. Because of the nature of the magnet they may have a higher concentration of individual students who were allowed acceleration but there are cases of 1 to 2 students everywhere.

My child is one of them but I wouldn't dare say what school because they may be the only one Many parents don't mention it for the very reason you are seeing on this thread which is a lot of hostility and people putting down other kids and questioning why their own child can't get something too.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

I guess I feel the county should provide the same opportunities to rich and poor alike.

Some "poor" schools are offering Algebra in 6th. Its the "rich" families complaining.

So Frost and Cold Spring are poor? I thought they had <5% FARMS?

Are you not comprehending that its not just the richer schools with low farms that are offering Algebra in 6th. Some high farms MS are offering it as well.

Name them.

Eastern MS

I'm guessing Eastern like TPMS will allow only kids whose wealthy ES offered AIM in 5th. In general, this just seems to be a thing for the rich schools.

I think people are pushing back because MOST of the rich schools do not allow Algebra in 6th grade. My guess is that it is not "rich" schools, it is schools with a high population of a certain demographic.

The only schools that I know of that offer this are Cold Spring and Frost which I think are in Potomac.

Just because you don't know its offered at other schools, doesn't mean its not offered. AIM is not offered at most schools but the kids just skip AIM and do Alegebra in 6th and are fine.

I’m gonna keep on posting about these other schools that aren’t Cold Spring or Frost but I’m not going to name them because reasons and I’m going to keep stomping around insisting there are other schools where this is definitely absolutely happening even though I’m the only one who knows about it.

Taking AIM is not a big deal. Skipping AIM is not a big deal. DCC offer Algebra in 6th at some schools and that's the discussion.

The only DCC schools that offer Algebra in 6th are TPMS and Eastern and they do so reluctantly and only for students who came from rich schools in Potomac who had already taken AIM in 5th.

This is absolutely not true. My child is at a different school that offers it.

Tell us the school or it isn't true. The only school that is known to do this is Frost in Potomac.

The only schools that offer this advancement are ones where a pride of entitled tiger parents descend on the school administrators demanding this.

Why does everything have to be about tiger moms..why can’t a parent genuinely want the best for the child an$ have them be appropriately challenged. If this was sports related no one would yell tiger moms constantly.

As a tiger mom, my kid took it at a DCC school. I don't need to name my child's school.

If you can't name the school, it didn't happen. The only DCC schools that offer this are magnets for the kids who already took AIM at their wealthy ES in Potomac.

We are at a downcountry school and mine started in sixth. You can say all you want it did not happen but it did. It is not a school you’d choose so it’s not important which one.

^ and imaginary DCC School that they can't name because it only exists and their imagination

The only elementary school that actually offers AIM in-house for a group of 5th graders is in an affluent community, so we can absolutely talk about how that constitutes systemic inequality since the system is enforcing greating opportunities for wealthy children.

However, lots of schools (including DCC feeders) offer the opportunity for selected children and I'm baffled as to why anyone would assume that's not true.

That's odd because I asked about this at my child's DCC feeder after they scored in the 290s on their MAP-M at the end of 4th and was told AIM in 5th wasn't an option.

Right. It's not all schools in any part of the country, per an earlier PP's post about how some schools offer this and some do not. Some affluent schools don't offer this option at all, and some higher needs schools do. I've also seen one school say no one year and yes the next, to kids who seemed pretty equally prepared.

Yes, this is mainly just available at affluent Potomac schools.

I think you're sick.
I don't know why you repeatedly keep posting misinformation. It's like you are deliberately trying to create division.
There is exactly one school in Potomac that "allows" this. The other schools do not. It's very school dependent and there are schools in the DCC that allow it too but it's really up to the principal and the math team there.
And to the "that's odd" poster this happens to kids in Potomac, Bethesda and Chevy Chase too. Your child is not special. There was a child in my child's class who scored 290 something in 4th and was in the "regular" compacted class just last year.

I think it would be A LOT more productive if we could work together here. This would be a GREAT project for someone to bring forward and shepherd with the Gifted Education Committee of the MCCPTA, who has done good work lately on a lot of fronts.

Someone with a current 2nd or 3rd grader with some skin in the game would be a good choice. The job would be:

1) Do a "poll" of parents asking the policy at their child's school. For Elementary Schools - Do they allow kids to skip 4/5 and go straight into 5/6? Do they allow kids to travel to the local MS for AIM if appropriate? For Middle Schools - Do they let kids test into Algebra I in 6th? Do they have a cut-off for the MAP score?

Individual parents would need to step up and ask these questions at the school level and report back.

2) Look at trends in the findings.

3) Bring it to MCPS and ask for a clear county-wide policy.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC, arising sixth grader found out today that her classmate is registered to take Algebra 1 as a rising sixth grader. My DC and the classmate were in the same elementary school math program and class last school year (compacted math). So can my child also take algebra 1 and if so how to talk with the counselor to make the change (she is currently registered for AIM6)?

Yes, your child can if they have the test scores and teacher recommendations to back it up. Just remember though what this means for your child's trajectory. HS requires 4 years of math.. so you better be sure your child will be okay with taking all those classes beyond calculus. Also, Algebra 1 grades and beyond start counting towards the HS GPA so make sure your kid can handle it and get good grades. My kid took Algebra 1 in 7th grade, Geometry in 8th and now she's in Algebra 2 as a 9th grader. Looking back, we think she would've been better off going the regular track. We assumed she was more of a math/science type back then however it's no longer her primary interest.

I could have written this.

DD was three years accelerated in math. She is no longer as interested in a math centric career. What she wants to do is still stem, but not requiring math past calculus. She’s taking AP Calc this year and not at all excited about math beyond that.