Plane noise
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Anonymous
Planes fly over National Mall, a fact. They may not directly fly over the WH, but they fly close enough to be near it and hear the noise. You can also see the planes pretty close when you visit Washington Memorial. Planes turn inland from the Potomac Path right over CIA from what it seems like, so this has no protective power for the nearby areas with $$$ homes. No $$$ or landmark importance protects you from flight paths, you just have to be lucky to be away from them at the moment. Also, how often do you go to Georgetown, Kennedy Center area, etc? If you are around there you will notice that it's not a lot of planes all the time flying over Potomac river or it would be unbearable to walk around there. I honestly don't even know if all these planes are DCA traffic or Dulles that fly over NOVA suburbs. I've seen planes fly different directions. |
Anonymous
I’m the PP and not gaslighting. What a ridiculous accusation. “Have a drink..” Charming. |
Anonymous
+ 1 |
Anonymous
Builders are like vultures in our area, selling isn't the problem. My problem is the fact that there is no way to ensure you won't experience it at a new location you are moving to. You seem to be so smug that some areas just will never have any airplane traffic, I wish I could be this confident. When we bought there was no airplane highway nearby. |
Anonymous
Why should people move when airline traffic changes? Airspace is open, there are no roads, there are no structures and like I said before, WH proximity or CIA is a nothingburger, planes still fly near. These "highways" aren't fixed. These aren't even land related issues, these are manmade logistics issues. And there is no insurance for people who move that they won't experience the same at a new location when traffic may change again. |
Anonymous
| I don’t know. I just couldn’t imagine putting my family under the Palisades flight path. Especially with all the recent health studies. Maybe it goes someplace else in a few years, which I doubt, but that’s fewer years of taking on a great stress and health risk. Also I don’t think houses there will ever again sell as well as now/before |
Anonymous
| So I’d sell and not worry about it any longer |
Anonymous
There are a lot of reasons planes fly on designated paths relating to how they are controlled and avoid other planes. It's not about the noise. It's about air traffic control and making flights go in pre-determined patterns where deviations are either a problem or to avoid a risk. And the flight path for National is the same as always: follow the river. Just they stick more to the course of the river post 9/11. |
Anonymous
No, it’s about doing your own research and not expecting to be spoon-fed information by a realtor or builder. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify the “risks” of buying near existing takeoff/landing patterns for an airport, especially for an airport like DCA where planes have very narrow pathways to fly. All it takes is one minor adjustment to bring more noise overhead. It’s akin to the “risk” of buying near an Interstate highway, which could always be widened in the future. People who are mad in the Palisades have no one to blame but themselves. Do a better job of researching potential “risks” in the future when you buy into neighborhoods. Also, for the record, given that the region has three airports that typically serve around 70 million passengers a year, a lot of us hear airplane noise throughout the day. |
Anonymous
| Oh no! The DCA flights are taking off to the south this morning and I have planes flying overhead in Burke! Yikes! Time to build that underground bunker so I can hide underground for the next couple of hours... |
Anonymous
| The birds chirping are much louder than the planes. Can someone take care of this for me? |
Anonymous
This PP seems a bit too defensive. I actually work for a major airline, and I still hate the sound of airplane noise. In about 15 years, we can expect quieter aircraft, as Boeing and Airbus have those in the plans. (Granted, electric airplanes are less likely.) |
Anonymous
This is sort of right. Planes have to account for the wind, but the runway doesn't rotate to face the wind. And as soon as a plane is aloft, it adjusts to the planned flightpath, again accounting for the wind. And the winds in this latitude are usually out of the west - NW or SW, perhaps, but west. Only occasional, temporary weather conditions bring the winds from other directions. |
Anonymous
You are right. This is the first of these threads that took off; probably because the adverse effects and the terribleness of the situation are wholly undeniable! Otherwise they just try to shame people into not dragging their real estate $ down by mocking it and others (calling them crazy, abnormally sensitive) but then can’t stop complaining on the private listserv. Real estate $ won’t save anyone from a near certain disease. Estimate is 70% increase in cardiovascular alone. The only positive from a recent study was that people go deaf sooner and then the effects lessen a bit. It’s the kids that will have the worst effects later in life from the ultrafines pushed by jets into lungs, brain etc. (not an exaggeration, directly from UWA, German, NJ studies). Reminds me of Spring Valley people doing the same. We figured ok, but we’ll test the “cleaned” soil. I could have killed people with a pool me of the heavy metals from a spoonful of that yard. No, thanks |
Anonymous
If you're close in they're absolutely all DCA and IAD. Get the free app, flightradar24, and you'll see that flight paths for DCA are incredibly simple. Not all that complex for IAD. Sometimes you'll see planes circling close to DCA but this is rare, way less than 1% of arrivals. It must be when the timing is off for runway usage and they need to readjust to prevent a near incursion. I spend too much time on the app...but it's better than spending too much time on DCUM! Maps are cool. |