Chantilly High or Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

I completely disagree. The obsession with making sure Langley has more FARMs kids (or "poors," as you so nicely put it) is the very definition of social engineering. Why? Because, as multiple posters have noted, there are zero FARMs areas anywhere near Langley - NONE. So in order to move FARMs kids to Langley, a complicated and convoluted busing system would have to be rigged, taking kids way past their zoned schools to Langley. All for "economic diversity" and to appease people like you, who are absolutely fixated on this.

You lie a lot.

Anyone who responds like that is outing themselves as completely clueless. You know everything above is true - you simply can't refute it. Too funny.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

Oh, spare us all. Take your constant complaints up with the SB.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Chantilly, two of my friends moved to Langley before HS, more stayed in Chantilly HS and Centreville HS.
After 4 years, two moved to Langley, one went to Columbia U, one went to VA Tech.
Two other friends stayed in Chantilly, one went to Harvard, one went to Duke
Two stayed in Centreville, one went to MIT, one went to UCLA.
Also, there are two about the same age in the same community went to TJ, one went to MIT, one went to CMU.

Kids are all friends, they are all from Rocky Run MS, but, went to different HS. I couldn't see any big differences among these schools.

You can’t just mention the top few kids from each school. Langley also has kids going to Stanford, Penn, Duke, etc. They may not have moved from Chantilly to Langley.

We moved from Alexandria to Langley. We thought long and hard about moving. I also considered how the chances for my child to attend a top university may be better if my child was the top student at our average high school.

My kids aren’t in high school yet but over the years, I feel like I have heard of a lot of kids from TJ going to UVA or Tech. I don’t know anyone who lives in Chantilly or Centerville.

It should be noted that many kids who live in Langley go to private schools like Potomac, St Albans, Sidwell, Basis, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who assume the asian immigrants in chantilly are somehow lower class than langley have absolutely no clue about the social status of the immigrant families in their countries in Asia. They are very often of way higher social class than the local american langley families. To the OP you are really deluded and making a mistaken assumption about class and income and are ignoring the role of immigration from asian countries.

Wow - this is some serious pretzel twisting! Respectfully, no one cares about what class you were in Asia, or what class you are now. This is so incredibly absurd.

This. OP — I know this sounds crazy to you, but social class isn’t important. What’s important is making sure your kids have the right values, empathy, respect for others (especially those that don’t belong in their social class), etc. I’d move to the place where your kids can best learn those ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:Langley is the most expensive pyramid. Why not Vienna or Oakton?

Or McLean High.

The OP doesn’t seem concerned about academics but more so about social status and getting in with a (perceived) elite crowd.

Plenty of rich folk zoned to McLean High *shrug* and other schools truth be told but whatever

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly sounds better with each post.

I feel like there is a lot of hate for Langley. I’m not really sure why.

I don’t go hating Potomac or Chevy chase. I don’t know much about them besides a lot of wealthy people live there that I don’t know.

Langley is below 2% FARMS— their FARMS numbers are even lower than TJ. But. The SB ignores that while blowing TJ up to get more poor kids in. And the GF a parents go to absurd lengths to make certain that no poors are zoned for their kids’ school. Lawsuits, SB recalls, trying to incorporate GFs. Etc. Etc. They are terrified their kids might have to attend a public school that’s is 10% free and reduced lunch. It’s just gross.

DP. And so your solution is busing kids into the area, for "diversity"? Sorry. This isn't the 70s anymore.

Oh that's hilarious. Do you even realize your hypocrisy? Do you genuinely deny that kids from the furthest northwestern part of the county are being bussed to Langley? Of course, it's not "bussing" when it's in your favor.

Those boundaries were changed back in the nineties due to capacity issues. No one cared because the schools involved were very majority white and middle class. People only cry about the Langley boundaries now because they think their own schools are TOO “diverse.”

You must be quite delightful in real life.

People point out that Langley, unique among the high schools in FCPS, has boundaries that get drawn and then redrawn to only include wealthy areas, due to rich people throwing their money around and coercing School Board members.

Thank you I am a delight.

That’s not relevant to the point.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly sounds better with each post.

I feel like there is a lot of hate for Langley. I’m not really sure why.

I don’t go hating Potomac or Chevy chase. I don’t know much about them besides a lot of wealthy people live there that I don’t know.

Langley is below 2% FARMS— their FARMS numbers are even lower than TJ. But. The SB ignores that while blowing TJ up to get more poor kids in. And the GF a parents go to absurd lengths to make certain that no poors are zoned for their kids’ school. Lawsuits, SB recalls, trying to incorporate GFs. Etc. Etc. They are terrified their kids might have to attend a public school that’s is 10% free and reduced lunch. It’s just gross.

DP. And so your solution is busing kids into the area, for "diversity"? Sorry. This isn't the 70s anymore.

Oh that's hilarious. Do you even realize your hypocrisy? Do you genuinely deny that kids from the furthest northwestern part of the county are being bussed to Langley? Of course, it's not "bussing" when it's in your favor.

Those boundaries were changed back in the nineties due to capacity issues. No one cared because the schools involved were very majority white and middle class. People only cry about the Langley boundaries now because they think their own schools are TOO “diverse.”

You must be quite delightful in real life.

People point out that Langley, unique among the high schools in FCPS, has boundaries that get drawn and then redrawn to only include wealthy areas, due to rich people throwing their money around and coercing School Board members.

DP. Talk about "quite delightful" - you're downright charming. No one is "throwing their money around and coercing SB members." Though I understand you need to tell yourself this so that you can manage to sleep at night without grinding your teeth over this (STILL).

If rich people are paying off school board members to draw boundaries in their favor, there should be a way to prove it.

Anyone who believes this is what’s going on should call for the entire board to be investigated (except Omeish, who did not vote for the latest Langley boundary adjustment)

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly sounds better with each post.

I feel like there is a lot of hate for Langley. I’m not really sure why.

I don’t go hating Potomac or Chevy chase. I don’t know much about them besides a lot of wealthy people live there that I don’t know.

Langley is below 2% FARMS— their FARMS numbers are even lower than TJ. But. The SB ignores that while blowing TJ up to get more poor kids in. And the GF a parents go to absurd lengths to make certain that no poors are zoned for their kids’ school. Lawsuits, SB recalls, trying to incorporate GFs. Etc. Etc. They are terrified their kids might have to attend a public school that’s is 10% free and reduced lunch. It’s just gross.

DP. And so your solution is busing kids into the area, for "diversity"? Sorry. This isn't the 70s anymore.

Oh that's hilarious. Do you even realize your hypocrisy? Do you genuinely deny that kids from the furthest northwestern part of the county are being bussed to Langley? Of course, it's not "bussing" when it's in your favor.

Those boundaries were changed back in the nineties due to capacity issues. No one cared because the schools involved were very majority white and middle class. People only cry about the Langley boundaries now because they think their own schools are TOO “diverse.”

You must be quite delightful in real life.

People point out that Langley, unique among the high schools in FCPS, has boundaries that get drawn and then redrawn to only include wealthy areas, due to rich people throwing their money around and coercing School Board members.

DP. Talk about "quite delightful" - you're downright charming. No one is "throwing their money around and coercing SB members." Though I understand you need to tell yourself this so that you can manage to sleep at night without grinding your teeth over this (STILL).

If rich people are paying off school board members to draw boundaries in their favor, there should be a way to prove it.

Anyone who believes this is what’s going on should call for the entire board to be investigated (except Omeish, who did not vote for the latest Langley boundary adjustment)

No one is paying off developers, but I would certainly welcome an investigation, if only to shut up the constant complainers. As for Omeish - she needs to go just as much as the rest of them, for so many other reasons.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

It is comical for McLean High poster to say they chose McLean High for values.

We are zoned for Langley but live 2 miles from McLean High. My kids went to the same AAP center with kids who went to Longfellow, play soccer with kids from the McLean High side. The kids are exactly the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

It is comical for McLean High poster to say they chose McLean High for values.

We are zoned for Langley but live 2 miles from McLean High. My kids went to the same AAP center with kids who went to Longfellow, play soccer with kids from the McLean High side. The kids are exactly the same.

Sssh! The McLean parents love to think of themselves and their kids as somehow better people. Not sure why… as you say, the kids are all the same. Astounding sanctimony.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

I already addressed this:
"Boundaries are already incredibly awkward in the majority of pyramids, except that they've existed in this way for decades so they seem normal to everyone. It's also not awkward for students to bypass closer schools, that currently happens across the entire county near the borders of each boundary. People who live along the edges are almost certainly closer to another school than the one they are assigned to."

So there, a simple re-drawing of boundaries could put any number of FARMs students at Langley, just look at the Herndon area. Again, their proximity to HHS is irrelevant because we already established an understanding that it is completely normal for kids to live much closer to other schools yet are assigned to another. Look at Hayfield and Woodson boundaries for goodness' sake.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

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The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

I already addressed this:
"Boundaries are already incredibly awkward in the majority of pyramids, except that they've existed in this way for decades so they seem normal to everyone. It's also not awkward for students to bypass closer schools, that currently happens across the entire county near the borders of each boundary. People who live along the edges are almost certainly closer to another school than the one they are assigned to."

So there, a simple re-drawing of boundaries could put any number of FARMs students at Langley, just look at the Herndon area. Again, their proximity to HHS is irrelevant because we already established an understanding that it is completely normal for kids to live much closer to other schools yet are assigned to another. Look at Hayfield and Woodson boundaries for goodness' sake.

Just to confirm, then: you have no problem with all of Great Falls going to Langley (which must be the case if you are advocating for more of Herndon to go to Langley).

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very different communities and your housing budget would place you in very different social places - you’d be rich at Chantilly and poor at Langley. What are your other priorities?

You would not be poor at Langley. You’d be average.

- Langley mom

In 2022, a $1.1-1.2M housing budget means you're below-average economically in the Langley HS district.

But someone has to be, as there's always a distribution. The Langley district is spread out and I don't think people are spending much time keeping tabs on who lives in the more affordable areas, which in Langley's case means (1) western Great Falls near Loudoun, (2) the Vienna neighborhoods off Route 7, and (3) the Kings Manor townhouses in McLean. Teaching your kids they can't always have everything some other kid has is a valuable lesson.

DP. You are correct that no one who actually goes to Langley thinks about or talks about the wealth of their peers. Curiously, that seems to be the sole purview of people whose kids go to school elsewhere.

How fantastic that OP has the benefit of the views of some random Langley mom who constantly pretends she knows what everyone in her pyramid thinks or says.

If I were the OP (who, btw, is probably a troll), I'd much prefer hearing from people with actual experience with said schools, rather than those who constantly make up absurd claims because they know nothing about it.

Personally I’d prefer hearing from someone humble enough to only speak for themselves and who wasn’t pushing some candy-coated narrative. Give us the good and the bad if you want to be taken seriously.

Plenty of us have done just that. It's the good that you don't want to hear - you can't stand hearing the good, in fact. We've pointed out that many of us are indeed middle class, live in small homes, drive minivans, etc. We simply don't have this weird inferiority complex that some of you so clearly have. Is there wealth in this area? Of course. There are also neighborhoods of modest homes and far less wealthy people. No one cares. No one but you, that is.

Nobody actually cares about your middle-class or wealthy lifestyle. The only thing we care about relevant to Langley is how the School Board continues to misuse the space available in the Langley pyramid for relieving overcrowding and concentration of FARMs children in surrounding areas.

I realize that I am beating a dead horse, but where are these magical people who can be moved into Langley? As a PP noted, the communites abutting's Langley boundaries are also primarily upper middle class and above. The only way to materially change Langley's current economic diversity is to draw an incredibly awkward boundary map, which is the same thing that a certain group of people complain about with regard to Langley's boundary extending to the Loudoun border. In fact, it's even more awkward because you'd literally need to have kids bypassing closer schools -- on the same route -- to get them to Langley. Anyone trying to have it both ways is just trying to pick a fight.

+ a million
The people who constantly grouse about this simply won't admit that what they're advocating for is social engineering. Plain and simple.

No dog in this fight but get serious. There isn't a better example of "social engineering" to be found in FCPS that making sure Langley has no poors.

Yup. This is a well known fact. And precisely the reason my kid will attend MHS although he could have transferred to Langley (for language). Place your kids in a decent school with values that align with yours, in my opinion.

That’s nice. Still waiting on those examples of magical FARMs kids who could be reassigned to Langley. Crickets.

I already addressed this:
"Boundaries are already incredibly awkward in the majority of pyramids, except that they've existed in this way for decades so they seem normal to everyone. It's also not awkward for students to bypass closer schools, that currently happens across the entire county near the borders of each boundary. People who live along the edges are almost certainly closer to another school than the one they are assigned to."

So there, a simple re-drawing of boundaries could put any number of FARMs students at Langley, just look at the Herndon area. Again, their proximity to HHS is irrelevant because we already established an understanding that it is completely normal for kids to live much closer to other schools yet are assigned to another. Look at Hayfield and Woodson boundaries for goodness' sake.

Not the Herndon poster again. If you want your Herndon kid to attend Langley so badly, move to the Langley area.

OP, I think I understand what you want but the wording was poor in your dilemma.

We live in an affluent area in Langley. Most of our neighbors send their kids to private school so the rich kids who live in the Langley pyramid often go to private and do not attend the public high school. Plenty of kids from high achieving families do attend the public schools though. My kids have friends whose parents are executives, law partners, surgeons and business owners. I feel the bar is high for them on what they think is normal. You can’t afford to live here if you aren’t somewhat successful.