ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is on an olders top team of a top 20 nationally club. She's played on the same top club/team since she was 5.

There are 5 players currently on the team now that were on the team when they were 5 years old. There's currently 4-5 trapped players (one is out hurt). My daughter is a Sept birthday. Current roster is 22

What all this means is 17 of the players weren't with the team at 5 years old. It also means that 17-18 were born Jan 1st to Sept 1st. This means 23% are trapped players but Sept-Dec is 33% of a 12 month calendar. This means that theres 10% variance that can be attributed to RAE if you believe in that kind of thing. On a BY team!

The person that keeps posting about RAE is ridiculious. They're likely a professional victim that's latched onto an excuse that can be molded into whatever that want it to be. At some point thet need to step up and stop making excuses.

I like how the professional rae victim said that the biggest kids are always Jan birthdays. This can be true but it can also be false. Not every Jan birthday will be the biggest kid. I also like how the professional rae victim said that being on the top team means getting the best coachs and resources. This is not true, theres good 1st team coaches and really poor 1st team coaches. Also on a 2nd team players will get more opportunities to play multiple positions. This is important because positions players play when they're 5 most likely wont be what they play at 16. Then they bring up the confidence thing. Some of the most confident players Ive seen stayed on the 2nd team for a long time just to build up confidence.

The professional rae victim is mostly nonsense. Yes there are a large number of Jan birthdays. But this doesn't mean if your kid isnt doing private lessons and futsal 2-3 hours a week on top of regular practice that they cant be a top player. My daughter played soccer with the boys every lunch in elementary school. I've never seen a trapped player sept-dec birthday that puts in the extra work not get noticed and opportunities. I have seen parents talk about rae when their kid got cut. As a parent you humor them but everyone knew that the issue wasnt rae.

Depends on the club. Your experience is just 1 situation. I know of an instance at a club where one of the best age groups (which went to a national tournament last year) the kids were divided up based on size when going into 11v11. That's what the coach (who's a fair/strong coach, btw) told the parents, point blank, even though the year before some of the top goal scorers were smaller and more skilled. The coach said they needed the size to compete at the higher level, period, and made the case that the smaller players could shine at level 2. That 2nd team is still pretty damn good BUT is slowly falling apart as the tournaments and opportunities are just fewer. That's just the reality. I think some are holding out because of the switch to SY to get on a top team next year, but it seems pretty clear few of them, if any, will otherwise get a shot to get to the BY version of top team at this point at this club. That's RAE at work.

You're experience is just 1 situation. (Notice how I just copied what you wrote)

11v11 is a much different game than 9v9. The field is huge and players need to be able to kick harder/farther and run longer/faster to play at that level.

I highly doubt a coach would drop down goal scorers simply for size. I do bet that parents try to make size an issue if their kid is small. I also noticed that you wrote that super amazing top team players that got dropped to the second team are now struggling and falling appart. So youre saying the coaches assessment was right. Ive seen top team players get dropped down to the second team and literally score at will. When this happened the coach that cut them and the club were begging them to play on the top team again.

Actually—this DID happen. My kid by objective metrics was the number 2 scorer and top in assists on their team at U11, U12. Played maybe 25 percent of game. In one game, scored 3 goals in 15 minutes (they won 4:1) and still only played that 15 minutes. I will never forget that game. Totally ignored in practices except when the coach would test their strength against the biggest kid to show how weak they were. And that is how talented young kids lose confidence, making it harder to move forward. 3 of the biggest kids on that team are now on top 10 ECNL team at U15. They did switch clubs eventually but to a 2nd team—and was told specifically it was because of size. And now that my kid is bigger, the lack of coaching and playing time means they have to work twice as hard if they want to play college soccer. I realize this is an N of 1. But magnify this across youth sports. That’s the point.

I don't believe you. More likely what happened is your kid isnt that good or dorsnt have a good work habits. They happened to have one good game and you're now using rae as a super excuse multiple years later.

The reason Im saying this is because logically it doesnt make sense to not play players that can score. Also ive seen players get moved down to the second team absolutely tear things up at that level . When this happens they get bumped back up to the top teams.

Theres also a chance that all your rae advocacy is whats holding your kid back if you're voicing it to other parents. If coaches tag you as a problem parent it can affect your kid.

I've met multiple crazy loon parents when it comes to their kid. When players are younger and natural talent or gifts like size or speed define starts is when its the worst. You get one extreme where parents scream at their kid in an effort to make them play better. But the more annoying extremes are the snowplow parents that play the social game to try and get their kid ahead or to control the team or coach. Its amazing what some parents think their kid deserves. As players get older natural gifts and size + speed still exist but soccer begins to become a grind so work rate which includes things players do outside of traditional practices becomes a variable in who plays.

I'd put the rae parent that keeps posting into the snowplow group. People likely got annoyed by their nonsense and now its affected their kid. They simply cant accept that other parents players work rate is how they made or stay on the top team. So they've constructed an everything is raes fault narative.

OMG, those ones who take to the internet to complain who think they're right about everything. That's the worst.

Nope the RAE excuse makers are the worst.

We need closed minded people to believe hard work and talent rules but smart people figure out the importance of luck, https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/economy/making-sense/analysis-if-youre-rich-youre-more-lucky-than-smart-and-theres-math-to-prove-it

So now you're a victim because you're not rich and being rich is all about luck (just like when you were born and rae).

I had you tagged correctly from the start. Always someone else's fault + you're always the victim.

100% chance your liberal and some kind of special victim classification.

Nope, your prejudices are showing though.

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I love the soccer to politics leap on this forum. Can't fix crazy or stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I love the soccer to politics leap on this forum. Can't fix crazy or stupid.

Poster clearly has lots of projection going on....

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Anonymous wrote:I love the soccer to politics leap on this forum. Can't fix crazy or stupid.

Poster clearly has lots of projection going on....

More clearly the rae poster is a professional victim.

Everything is someone else's fault.

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Projection, no one is being a victim. Pointing out something exists does not make someone a victim. Seriously get back to class there is no way you are a functioning adult.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

Not true! Ask your club director they announced they will be changing. Nothing public but privately they are all aware.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

Not true! Ask your club director they announced they will be changing. Nothing public but privately they are all aware.

And mlsnext?

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Anonymous wrote:Projection, no one is being a victim. Pointing out something exists does not make someone a victim. Seriously get back to class there is no way you are a functioning adult.

You point out rae nonstop 24/7 has it changed anything? No it doesnt.

Does switching from BY to SY change rae in any way shape or form? No because they're both 265 day eligibility windows.

The only way to address rae is what MLS Next does with biobanding. Interestingly you choose to play your son in ECNL. A league that does not have biobanding. But yet you complain about rae nonstop.

Seriously, find a new excuse.

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I guess I understand the lashing out. I've never felt so pessimistic about the world, including this country. Some are happy now, of course, and perhaps they were just as pessimistic 4 years ago. As a student of history, I worry that the likely whirlwind to come will make us yearn for a time where we could watch our kids play youth soccer. In the meantime, granting more grace is what the world needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

Not true! Ask your club director they announced they will be changing. Nothing public but privately they are all aware.

At least you got the "nothing public" part right. Everything is rumors.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I understand the lashing out. I've never felt so pessimistic about the world, including this country. Some are happy now, of course, and perhaps they were just as pessimistic 4 years ago. As a student of history, I worry that the likely whirlwind to come will make us yearn for a time where we could watch our kids play youth soccer. In the meantime, granting more grace is what the world needs.

Stop listening to social media + reddit.

Your worldview will instantly change.

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Anonymous wrote:Projection, no one is being a victim. Pointing out something exists does not make someone a victim. Seriously get back to class there is no way you are a functioning adult.

You point out rae nonstop 24/7 has it changed anything? No it doesnt.

Does switching from BY to SY change rae in any way shape or form? No because they're both 265 day eligibility windows.

The only way to address rae is what MLS Next does with biobanding. Interestingly you choose to play your son in ECNL. A league that does not have biobanding. But yet you complain about rae nonstop.

Seriously, find a new excuse.

Biobanding is for cheaters in the name of RAE. I see some March or April players play down against younger Dec. kids. It is 20/21 months difference. You can not justify it with RAE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

same moron that trolls any time this is brought up. Most likely just likes messing with all the neurotic parents. As another poster said, this is a done deal for GA. Just ask your DOC. It has been discussed multiple times with GA DOC’s. At the annual meeting, during the town hall and now it is on the admin portal on the GA website. The only thing unclear is if it will be 8-1 but most think it will be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

same moron that trolls any time this is brought up. Most likely just likes messing with all the neurotic parents. As another poster said, this is a done deal for GA. Just ask your DOC. It has been discussed multiple times with GA DOC’s. At the annual meeting, during the town hall and now it is on the admin portal on the GA website. The only thing unclear is if it will be 8-1 but most think it will be.

How is making a 100% true statement being a troll?

GA has not made a statement on BY or SY.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone confirmed if GA is changing to 8/1?

Only that they are moving to age group but not a confirmed date as far as I am aware.

100% not true.

GA hasn't said anything about SY.

same moron that trolls any time this is brought up. Most likely just likes messing with all the neurotic parents. As another poster said, this is a done deal for GA. Just ask your DOC. It has been discussed multiple times with GA DOC’s. At the annual meeting, during the town hall and now it is on the admin portal on the GA website. The only thing unclear is if it will be 8-1 but most think it will be.

Post all the documents that you say exist.