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Misogyny on the campaign trailWhere I stand Where I stand Where I stand Where I stand Where I stand The news broke yesterday and hasn't yet really penetrated the mainstream media, but it turns out that it's not just Senators that John McCain rages at—it's also his wife. In Cliff Schechter's new book The Real McCain, he recounts that, at a campaign stop in 1992, McCain told his wife Cindy, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c***." Schecter has three reporters on the record attesting to the incident, who also told Schechter that Cindy (the only woman in the room) blushed but said nothing.
Wow. Cindy—even if she does occasionally go a little heavy and dark on the foundation—is a beautiful woman and definitely doesn't look like a prostitute from the 15th century (the last time anyone used the word "trollop" unironically). And the use of the word "c***" is just vicious and uncalled for. Never once has a man dared call me that to my face, let alone in front of witnesses. God knows I could not have played the dutiful wife/girlfriend and laughed that off in front of a dozen reporters. If he talks this way to his wife when she ribs him about his bald spot, what will he do when Ahmadinejad ribs him about his tortured comb-over? And hello, in front of a bunch of reporters? Who did not report it? Why did it take 16 years and some great investigative journalism to dig this up? Schechter told me that he thinks the story died because "In 1992, pre-Gennifer Flowers, most reporters didn't know how to report on this stuff." That may well be true, but I'm not buying it. What I want to know now is what else goes on inside the so-called Straight Talk Express that the boys don't think we need to know? McCain, naturally, is denying the reports of his behavior. And, he's leading in the most recent national polls. We'll see if this affects his campaign at all. Is this worse than the Obama/Reverend Wright thing? Does it make Clinton's Bosnian brouhahah seem a little silly? Because what it comes down to is—is it ever OK for a man to call his wife a "c***" in public ? And is it OK to elect someone who does? |
jsteele
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There are a few inaccuracies in your post, though your main point is correct. The news didn't break yesterday. As you said, it was in Schecter's book which has been out since May. But, the story was circulating even before publication. Also, McCain is not leading in national polls. The Real Clear Politics national average has Obama up by 4.2 points. But, now that I think of it, you've probably copied and pasted an old blog post which is now out of date a bit.
At any rate, here is a humorous take on the issue (Not safe for work): |
Anonymous
Whoah! What a d***head!
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The youtube clip was REALLY funny and well done.
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I hate to say it, but given that he was reacting to her commenting about his baldness, it seems to me quite probable that it was a case of husband-wife banter by a guy who felt he was among a bunch of buddies who would not take it any more seriously than it was meant.
PS, I am not a McCain supporter. I just think he should be defeated for where he stands on real issues, not a meaningless comment from sixteen years ago. |
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PP, I understand what you mean and I was wondering about that myself but upon reflection, I just can't go with that interpretation. There's something about using the word "cunt" in front of a bunch of other men, especially reporters that is quite jarring and that he thought it was okay to say it like that in public is disturbing. My husband and I have had our rough times but he would NEVER do that.
Certainly I will vote against McCain because of his stand on issues but I had previously had some respect for him. This makes me wonder who he really is and what he really thinks about women. There is something here that crosses a line. |
Anonymous
Using the word c*nt and using it publicly in front of people is really degrading and humiliating. This tells me something about his character and moral fiber. This illustrates his utter lack of respect for his wife and women in general. I'm not a Cindy McCain fan, but she must have endured a lot in the past 3 decades! My DH and I have arguments but the c-word is absolutely unacceptable even in the heat of the moment. |
jsteele
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There shouldn't be any doubt what McCain really thinks about women. Never mind that he is a serial adulterer. Or, what he called his own wife. In 1998, he told this joke: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." This was when Chelsea was just a young adolescent girl. http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html Also, remember during the primary when a McCain supporter -- referring to Hillary Clinton, asked McCain: "How do we beat the bitch?". McCain simply laughed. http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/11/13/mccain/ |
Anonymous
Yeah, but when I heard about this previously I had assumed he had laughed nervously out of discomfort! Now I know that assumption was wrong! |
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Why do we have to do this? After working on the Hill for 19 years I can tell you that there are very few of our elected representatives that can bear this kind of scrutiny. In case you haven't noticed - egos are huge and consideration for others - not so much.
Let's rise above this kind of thing, even if the candidates can't. |
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One can be arrogant and have a large ego without being a misogynist. |
Anonymous
Yeah, they can be a pedophile instead. Come on - everyone acts like character plays a large part of the electibility of the candidate, but CLEARLY it doesn't seem to matter as much as we'd like to think. I think it's just the opportunity to sniff and gossip that gives this kind of stuff such legs. |