Swim Excuse Note

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

Many of us have told op to get this girl a rash guard and shorts instead of a typical bathing suit.

This has nothing to do with dress code.

I disagree. Because if she’s the one girl who shows up in a rash guard and shorts, she’s going to feel awkward, too. It’s just a really dumb activity for this point in a girl’s life.

And while I personally wouldn’t go the doctor’s note route, the OP specifically said they weren’t going to lie to get it and the doctor is totally on board. Would you all be ok with the OP asking for an alternative PE activity?

What if she just accepts a failing grade?

If the idea of putting the suit on was causing my kid sufficient distress and the school was unwilling to provide an alternative, the yes, I’d absolutely have my kid take a failing grade rather than force the issue. An 8th grade PE grade is so not worth the stress. And I can’t really think of another example of mandatory graded work that would require a girl to wear a certain type of tight or revealing clothing.

Growing up, my school had a pool and we had swimming as part of PE. They actually gave us swimsuits to wear, and the girls' swimsuits were competition suits and the boys had speedos. It was horrible for everyone but honestly worse for the boys. This really should not be a co-ed activity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense to get a doctor’s note when your daughter can just wear a swim cap to keep her hair dry.

That’s….not what swim caps do. Drier, perhaps, not but not dry.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

To recap…1) OP’s daughter has no issues walking around in a bathing suit in public because she swims in the summer in the neighborhood pool. 2) The swimming class is girl only. 3) OP’s daughter doesn’t want to get her hair wet.

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Anonymous wrote:Im really not a person who would normally do that, but swimming daily? Assuming they have to go back to class wet? That sounds awful. Seriously awful. I'd probably try to get my kid out of it if they asked if it wasn't something they made a habit out of.

I went to an all girls' HS and took required swimming classes for two years. I remember it being a few days each week. We had to wear ugly old suits and a swim cap. We all hated it but nobody's parents got their doctor to write a fake note excusing them from it. We used towels to dry off and put our regular uniforms on. Our hair was mostly dry anyway due to the swim cap. Not a big deal at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

To recap…1) OP’s daughter has no issues walking around in a bathing suit in public because she swims in the summer in the neighborhood pool. 2) The swimming class is girl only. 3) OP’s daughter doesn’t want to get her hair wet.

my kid swims in the outdoors too in the summer. But the changing rooms at our outdoor pool have doors, other outdoor pools have doors or curtains. They are also not all changing at once. It’s totally not the same thing..

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I have 14yo twins- both of them would haaaaate this, for different reasons. DS is going through a terribly awkward stage physically, and DD wouldn’t want to mess up her hair and makeup.

Who on earth came up with this idea- swimming during the school day at that age? And why on earth would parents put up with this? Baffling. This would never go over at my kids’ school.

If they didn’t want to swim & I could get a note and get them excused- sure, I would. They both swim very well and don’t need to be swimming during the school day. Waste of time anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

The people who need to hear and understand this never will because they're too small-minded, self-centered and selfish to see the bigger picture. I'm sorry that this is the kind of parents and students you have to deal with as an educator. You deserve better.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

Muslim girls participate in swimming with fully covering bathing suits. This has nothing to do with wearing a bathing suit because there are infinite options for bathing suits that can be purchased according to the wearer's modesty preferences. This has everything to do with her daughter not wanting to do a thing and her mother indulging in the attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

The people who need to hear and understand this never will because they're too small-minded, self-centered and selfish to see the bigger picture. I'm sorry that this is the kind of parents and students you have to deal with as an educator. You deserve better.

This is so over the top. I have never, ever asked for even the slightest bend in the rules nor exception for either of my teens in all their school years and I still support the OP in this one stupid instance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

The people who need to hear and understand this never will because they're too small-minded, self-centered and selfish to see the bigger picture. I'm sorry that this is the kind of parents and students you have to deal with as an educator. You deserve better.

This is so over the top. I have never, ever asked for even the slightest bend in the rules nor exception for either of my teens in all their school years and I still support the OP in this one stupid instance.

You're not going to get it because you can't. Your limited thinking won't allow you to. Even when multiple educators take the time to explain the bigger picture, the example you set and the wheels this kind of behavior from parents puts in motion.

You continuing to dig in your heels, and insisting it's just ONE STUPID INSTANCE, just proves the point over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

To recap…1) OP’s daughter has no issues walking around in a bathing suit in public because she swims in the summer in the neighborhood pool. 2) The swimming class is girl only. 3) OP’s daughter doesn’t want to get her hair wet.

my kid swims in the outdoors too in the summer. But the changing rooms at our outdoor pool have doors, other outdoor pools have doors or curtains. They are also not all changing at once. It’s totally not the same thing..

I have a year round swimmer. They change at home. Not in the locker room.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense to get a doctor’s note when your daughter can just wear a swim cap to keep her hair dry.

That’s….not what swim caps do. Drier, perhaps, not but not dry.

Of course swim caps work to help keep the hair dry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this is required for EVERYONE. She won’t be the only person uncomfortable with it. I used to teach at a public high school that had a swim unit in P.E. and the only time anyone was excused from it was if they were on their period, (or other REAL medical issue) and even that meant they would be excused for one week.

They make waterproof swim caps, and even make swim caps specifically for long hair. She can wear a rash guard and board shorts. Heck, they even make swim leggings if she wants to cover up even more.

So the girls had to disclose private medical information (ongoing menses) to you? Seems Orwellian.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

The people who need to hear and understand this never will because they're too small-minded, self-centered and selfish to see the bigger picture. I'm sorry that this is the kind of parents and students you have to deal with as an educator. You deserve better.

This is so over the top. I have never, ever asked for even the slightest bend in the rules nor exception for either of my teens in all their school years and I still support the OP in this one stupid instance.

You're not going to get it because you can't. Your limited thinking won't allow you to. Even when multiple educators take the time to explain the bigger picture, the example you set and the wheels this kind of behavior from parents puts in motion.

You continuing to dig in your heels, and insisting it's just ONE STUPID INSTANCE, just proves the point over and over again.

Ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how many of these rabid “make her walk around in her bathing suit!” parents are the same ones who complain about crop tops and short homecoming dresses.

To recap…1) OP’s daughter has no issues walking around in a bathing suit in public because she swims in the summer in the neighborhood pool. 2) The swimming class is girl only. 3) OP’s daughter doesn’t want to get her hair wet.

my kid swims in the outdoors too in the summer. But the changing rooms at our outdoor pool have doors, other outdoor pools have doors or curtains. They are also not all changing at once. It’s totally not the same thing..

The daughter’s problem is wet hair. You’re making up the changing room issue…you don’t even know what the changing room looks like at this school.