Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think parents for the most part know their kids and what boundaries they need to set for them and when they can give them their space. I really don't think it does society or these kids any good to have busy bodies second-guessing the judgment of parents.

Clearly the kids were not in peril. The 911 operator who answered the call should have told the guy to call the local police department and to keep the line clear for real emergencies.

If given an opportunity to think this through I don't think anyone, including the guy who made the call, believes that these kids are safer or better off with CPS than with their parents.

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

I hope the parents lawyer up and sue the county for unlawful imprisonment.

Oh, well, if parents know best then I guess child neglect and abuse just don't exist and we should never investigate. It apparently wasn't clear to the caller, or the previous caller, or the police, or CPS that the kids were not in peril. It's clear to you, I guess, though you haven't investigated, didn't see any of it, and don't know them. I think I'm good with dismissing your POV then.
You also need to look up "kidnapping". Since the police and CPS had the authority to detain the kids under law, there's no kidnapping. Also, kidnappers don't usually call a couple hours later and return the kids. Except I guess in your la la land.

You're ridiculous and I don't give a shit if you dismiss my POV.

Ah! Well then. Now I'm convinced.

[Anonymous]

This thread has been my comic relief all week.
Thanks for tbe laughs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think parents for the most part know their kids and what boundaries they need to set for them and when they can give them their space. I really don't think it does society or these kids any good to have busy bodies second-guessing the judgment of parents.

Clearly the kids were not in peril. The 911 operator who answered the call should have told the guy to call the local police department and to keep the line clear for real emergencies.

If given an opportunity to think this through I don't think anyone, including the guy who made the call, believes that these kids are safer or better off with CPS than with their parents.

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

I hope the parents lawyer up and sue the county for unlawful imprisonment.

So we should all just look the other way if we think someone might need help? Fear of being wrong about whether or not they actually need our help should keep everyone's eye diverted.

This guy probably thought pretty hard about what to do. He said he'd been watching them for 20 min already before finally calling for help or assistance on how to best proceed.

If something had happened to these children, don't you think it would weigh heavier on him that he stood back and did nothing? I'd take making someone upset if I felt I was genuinely doing the best I knew to do regarding someone's safety, especially a child. That's much better that regret.

[Anonymous]

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

What difference does this make? Do you think he had any reason to think they would be taken into CPS custody? He probably just thought they would be dropped off at home.

[Anonymous]

Yawn. Are there more than 2 ppl posting anymore?

[Anonymous]

Apparently so, since I'm one and I know what I'm not posting. BUT I was kind of thinking I wished the "Ladies, capris are not doing you any favors" thread made it this long. That's entertaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think parents for the most part know their kids and what boundaries they need to set for them and when they can give them their space. I really don't think it does society or these kids any good to have busy bodies second-guessing the judgment of parents.

Clearly the kids were not in peril. The 911 operator who answered the call should have told the guy to call the local police department and to keep the line clear for real emergencies.

If given an opportunity to think this through I don't think anyone, including the guy who made the call, believes that these kids are safer or better off with CPS than with their parents.

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

I hope the parents lawyer up and sue the county for unlawful imprisonment.

So we should all just look the other way if we think someone might need help? Fear of being wrong about whether or not they actually need our help should keep everyone's eye diverted.

This guy probably thought pretty hard about what to do. He said he'd been watching them for 20 min already before finally calling for help or assistance on how to best proceed.

If something had happened to these children, don't you think it would weigh heavier on him that he stood back and did nothing? I'd take making someone upset if I felt I was genuinely doing the best I knew to do regarding someone's safety, especially a child. That's much better that regret.

Well, according to a previous poster, we shouldn't make decisions based on whether we might later regret not taking an action that might have helped someone.

Not every parent does the right thing by their kids. Sometimes there's a learning curve, especially with your first child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

What difference does this make? Do you think he had any reason to think they would be taken into CPS custody? He probably just thought they would be dropped off at home.

I don't think anybody wants to step on a hornet's nest, but we will never know if something bad would have happened to the kids because he got them out of harms way. That's the problem with prevention... it lacks that big bang... the validation that it worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think parents for the most part know their kids and what boundaries they need to set for them and when they can give them their space. I really don't think it does society or these kids any good to have busy bodies second-guessing the judgment of parents.

Clearly the kids were not in peril. The 911 operator who answered the call should have told the guy to call the local police department and to keep the line clear for real emergencies.

If given an opportunity to think this through I don't think anyone, including the guy who made the call, believes that these kids are safer or better off with CPS than with their parents.

Also, I wonder if the guy had known what was to come next - highly irresponsible actions on the part of the police and CPS to basically kidnap these kids - he would have actually made the call.

I hope the parents lawyer up and sue the county for unlawful imprisonment.

So we should all just look the other way if we think someone might need help? Fear of being wrong about whether or not they actually need our help should keep everyone's eye diverted.

This guy probably thought pretty hard about what to do. He said he'd been watching them for 20 min already before finally calling for help or assistance on how to best proceed.

If something had happened to these children, don't you think it would weigh heavier on him that he stood back and did nothing? I'd take making someone upset if I felt I was genuinely doing the best I knew to do regarding someone's safety, especially a child. That's much better that regret.

Well, according to a previous poster, we shouldn't make decisions based on whether we might later regret not taking an action that might have helped someone.

Not every parent does the right thing by their kids. Sometimes there's a learning curve, especially with your first child.

Yep, and some parents -- even ones who seem nice and loving -- might have mental health issues that interfere with their ability to parent. Or so many other things we just don't know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to the 911 tape and so glad that there are people like him in the community who was genuinely worried about these children and just called 911 to make sure they were ok. We should be giving him a hearty thank you instead of criticizing him.

I wasn't there, so I don't know. But do you think it's likely that these two children of indeterminate not-very-old age were the only children wandering around DTSS without parents or adults? What about the other unaccompanied children? Why was he so unconcerned about them?

I am DTSS all the time. I do not observe children without parents ever.

That is sad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently so, since I'm one and I know what I'm not posting. BUT I was kind of thinking I wished the "Ladies, capris are not doing you any favors" thread made it this long. That's entertaining.

Only helicopter moms wear capris

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm after reading the content of the 911 call I have to agree that the call was made cause the kids looked dirty, and frankly I think it was reasonable. The dog walker did a justifiable (maybe not right, but not outlandishly wrong) thing by observing them for a while and making the call. We are supposed to trust our guts and a big part of our perception will be based on the cleanliness/appearance of individuals. So while pp above was being sarcastic, yes! Dress your kids well and they will have less chance of being reported. The dog walker was being part of the village, if you ask me.

No, the village would go up and see if they needed anything, not call 911. That is what paranoid people with little social skills do.

Exactly!

Nope. Wrong. IF it were actually in a neighborhood, then the guy walking the dog would probably know the kids' family and/or at least some of their neighbors. So they could check on them and make sure it was ok. That's what would have happened in my neighborhood growing up. My parents would have called the kids' parents if they thought the kids looked kind of lost or over their heads. But if they didn't know the kids' parents, they would call the police. No one in the world who ever met us would say they (or I) don't have social skills.

No because my neighborhood is a lot more than 2 blocks wide, which is how far away they were and not everyone knows everyone. As a matter of fact, because of the praetor conspiracies and need to have kids in daycares or in front of a tv screen, along with parents who outsource yard work, car washing, etc.... hardly anyone knows every neighbor, even on their own street. Welcome to 2014. It is time for a change and I hope these parents are opening up people's eyes to what their kids are missing by structuring every moment of their lives and future. More attention issues, more disorders, more therapists needed, more stress, more anxiety. If is all very much related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently so, since I'm one and I know what I'm not posting. BUT I was kind of thinking I wished the "Ladies, capris are not doing you any favors" thread made it this long. That's entertaining.

Only helicopter moms wear capris

...so does Jen Aniston. Google Jen Aniston capris. I like the army green ones she frequently wears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm after reading the content of the 911 call I have to agree that the call was made cause the kids looked dirty, and frankly I think it was reasonable. The dog walker did a justifiable (maybe not right, but not outlandishly wrong) thing by observing them for a while and making the call. We are supposed to trust our guts and a big part of our perception will be based on the cleanliness/appearance of individuals. So while pp above was being sarcastic, yes! Dress your kids well and they will have less chance of being reported. The dog walker was being part of the village, if you ask me.

No, the village would go up and see if they needed anything, not call 911. That is what paranoid people with little social skills do.

Exactly!

Nope. Wrong. IF it were actually in a neighborhood, then the guy walking the dog would probably know the kids' family and/or at least some of their neighbors. So they could check on them and make sure it was ok. That's what would have happened in my neighborhood growing up. My parents would have called the kids' parents if they thought the kids looked kind of lost or over their heads. But if they didn't know the kids' parents, they would call the police. No one in the world who ever met us would say they (or I) don't have social skills.

No because my neighborhood is a lot more than 2 blocks wide, which is how far away they were and not everyone knows everyone. As a matter of fact, because of the praetor conspiracies and need to have kids in daycares or in front of a tv screen, along with parents who outsource yard work, car washing, etc.... hardly anyone knows every neighbor, even on their own street. Welcome to 2014. It is time for a change and I hope these parents are opening up people's eyes to what their kids are missing by structuring every moment of their lives and future. More attention issues, more disorders, more therapists needed, more stress, more anxiety. If is all very much related.

Whoops, predator conspiracies and I forgot it was 2015

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently so, since I'm one and I know what I'm not posting. BUT I was kind of thinking I wished the "Ladies, capris are not doing you any favors" thread made it this long. That's entertaining.

Only helicopter moms wear capris

...so does Jen Aniston. Google Jen Aniston capris. I like the army green ones she frequently wears.

I bet if the kids had capris on, the man wouldn't have called 911