Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

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Anonymous wrote:How far along was she?

MM’s miscarriage story is making news at the same time Christina Perri lost her daughter—stillborn at 32 weeks.

Every loss is hard. But if MM was very early on, then her emotionally wrought write-up is a bit tone deaf.

I’ve suffered 3 MCs by the way. An early MC isn’t the same as a later loss.

Also: I hate it when people celebrity-splain things we already know and elevate it to something it is not for their own purposes. Miscarriage isn’t shameful, it is rather common, and she isn’t brave for sharing. Rather, she’s vying for sympathy to shift the narrative. She wants to be a celebrity who is adored. Gross.

I had these thoughts when I read the story too. I also assume that if MM was further along she would have included that detail in her writing.

She absolutely would have milked a late term loss. For now she is probably just trying to milk her 7 week loss for all its worth because she wants to be though of as brave for sharing her all too common story. Problem is too many people have been down the same road and think her piece is trash due to the way it's written. She's gross at this point, nothing else to say.

I would honestly be surprised at this take but I saw how people reacted the same way (negatively) to Chrissy Teigen sharing her loss.

Its weird to me. Miscarriage - late-term or early - is not talked about at all. People write about it years later once they have their 'rainbow' babies but the idea that its commonplace for famous or well-known women, or even regular, women to speak up on it is false. Especially if they don't have to. Someone mentioned Christina Perri - I doubt you'd even known she had a miscarriage if she hadn't been so public about posting nude shots of her body in the third trimester. She couldn't very well hide the loss.

I have no idea who Christina Perri is. And in my experience, I know who of all my close friends and family have had miscarriages. Most of them have. It's talked about like most other sensitive topics. Child birth, sex, infertility, breast lumps, etc. It may not be for public consumption but among close circles of women and family it is talked about. I just didn't bring it to work, or with casual acquaintances. I'm speaking for myself only but I have to think other groups of women haven't made it taboo. At least I hope!

Talking about it in 'whispers' among circles of women does nothing to change the public mindset or outlook.

Many young women go into pregnancies with a lot of 'secrets' hovering that they don't even realize could or will be realities until tragedy strikes.

Aside from all that - fostering a whisper network is good but if you ever want to change society or have people change the way its acknowledged - you have to speak up. This is what happened with abortion rights, voting rights, fair pay etc.

What needs to change? People get funny about any kind of death. Or cancer diagnosis or any other bad news. It makes people uncomfortable no matter what, I don't see miscarriage as different in that regard.

[Anonymous]

You guys! The duchess of Sussex is the only woman in the world brave enough to announce her miscarriage!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys! The duchess of Sussex is the only woman in the world brave enough to announce her miscarriage!

This isn't even on my "I wish I have a damn" list! I wish harry and . meghan would move to Mar a lar go with the Trump's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How far along was she?

MM’s miscarriage story is making news at the same time Christina Perri lost her daughter—stillborn at 32 weeks.

Every loss is hard. But if MM was very early on, then her emotionally wrought write-up is a bit tone deaf.

I’ve suffered 3 MCs by the way. An early MC isn’t the same as a later loss.

Also: I hate it when people celebrity-splain things we already know and elevate it to something it is not for their own purposes. Miscarriage isn’t shameful, it is rather common, and she isn’t brave for sharing. Rather, she’s vying for sympathy to shift the narrative. She wants to be a celebrity who is adored. Gross.

I had these thoughts when I read the story too. I also assume that if MM was further along she would have included that detail in her writing.

She absolutely would have milked a late term loss. For now she is probably just trying to milk her 7 week loss for all its worth because she wants to be though of as brave for sharing her all too common story. Problem is too many people have been down the same road and think her piece is trash due to the way it's written. She's gross at this point, nothing else to say.

I would honestly be surprised at this take but I saw how people reacted the same way (negatively) to Chrissy Teigen sharing her loss.

Its weird to me. Miscarriage - late-term or early - is not talked about at all. People write about it years later once they have their 'rainbow' babies but the idea that its commonplace for famous or well-known women, or even regular, women to speak up on it is false. Especially if they don't have to. Someone mentioned Christina Perri - I doubt you'd even known she had a miscarriage if she hadn't been so public about posting nude shots of her body in the third trimester. She couldn't very well hide the loss.

I have no idea who Christina Perri is. And in my experience, I know who of all my close friends and family have had miscarriages. Most of them have. It's talked about like most other sensitive topics. Child birth, sex, infertility, breast lumps, etc. It may not be for public consumption but among close circles of women and family it is talked about. I just didn't bring it to work, or with casual acquaintances. I'm speaking for myself only but I have to think other groups of women haven't made it taboo. At least I hope!

Talking about it in 'whispers' among circles of women does nothing to change the public mindset or outlook.

Many young women go into pregnancies with a lot of 'secrets' hovering that they don't even realize could or will be realities until tragedy strikes.

Aside from all that - fostering a whisper network is good but if you ever want to change society or have people change the way its acknowledged - you have to speak up. This is what happened with abortion rights, voting rights, fair pay etc.

What needs to change? People get funny about any kind of death. Or cancer diagnosis or any other bad news. It makes people uncomfortable no matter what, I don't see miscarriage as different in that regard.

Education. I think women, especially young women (18-29), need to have comprehensive maternal education. Not just on what could go wrong with a pregnancy, or what a set of extra chromosomes means for a future babies development, but also how to pick a partner who will support you as a parent, what declining fertile rates means, what are the side effects of x-and-x birth control, or what to expect in labor-and-delivery, what it means medically for you or the baby to have a stillborn child.

I think the sex, procreation, and maternal health education in this country is woefully underdeveloped. But that's nothing new.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if they told his father and brother about the miscarriage as many men would do? If not, this is a belly s a way for them to learn about it. If so, Charles, William, and the family used the type of discretion Meghan failed to embrace. We didn’t hear a peep of omit from the BRF which also has a leak. I suspect Harry did not tell them

Funny. The BRF is saying the exact opposite. Which begs the question - if they knew, why be so callous?

What has one thing got to do with the other?

Who. Cares. I shouldn't have to even think about when the BRF knew, or what they didn't do, or if they denied him a wreath, or if they were grieving with their LA photo op.

And, yes, I'm commenting, but I also went to the NYT for actual news and was, once again, shoved into the wealthy dysfunction of the BRF. People are dying, there is a pandemic, I don't GAF. MM and Harry made the choice to leave the BRF, but they cannot quit the media.

Do you understand how opinion sections work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How far along was she?

MM’s miscarriage story is making news at the same time Christina Perri lost her daughter—stillborn at 32 weeks.

Every loss is hard. But if MM was very early on, then her emotionally wrought write-up is a bit tone deaf.

I’ve suffered 3 MCs by the way. An early MC isn’t the same as a later loss.

Also: I hate it when people celebrity-splain things we already know and elevate it to something it is not for their own purposes. Miscarriage isn’t shameful, it is rather common, and she isn’t brave for sharing. Rather, she’s vying for sympathy to shift the narrative. She wants to be a celebrity who is adored. Gross.

I had these thoughts when I read the story too. I also assume that if MM was further along she would have included that detail in her writing.

She absolutely would have milked a late term loss. For now she is probably just trying to milk her 7 week loss for all its worth because she wants to be though of as brave for sharing her all too common story. Problem is too many people have been down the same road and think her piece is trash due to the way it's written. She's gross at this point, nothing else to say.

I would honestly be surprised at this take but I saw how people reacted the same way (negatively) to Chrissy Teigen sharing her loss.

Its weird to me. Miscarriage - late-term or early - is not talked about at all. People write about it years later once they have their 'rainbow' babies but the idea that its commonplace for famous or well-known women, or even regular, women to speak up on it is false. Especially if they don't have to. Someone mentioned Christina Perri - I doubt you'd even known she had a miscarriage if she hadn't been so public about posting nude shots of her body in the third trimester. She couldn't very well hide the loss.

I have no idea who Christina Perri is. And in my experience, I know who of all my close friends and family have had miscarriages. Most of them have. It's talked about like most other sensitive topics. Child birth, sex, infertility, breast lumps, etc. It may not be for public consumption but among close circles of women and family it is talked about. I just didn't bring it to work, or with casual acquaintances. I'm speaking for myself only but I have to think other groups of women haven't made it taboo. At least I hope!

Talking about it in 'whispers' among circles of women does nothing to change the public mindset or outlook.

Many young women go into pregnancies with a lot of 'secrets' hovering that they don't even realize could or will be realities until tragedy strikes.

Aside from all that - fostering a whisper network is good but if you ever want to change society or have people change the way its acknowledged - you have to speak up. This is what happened with abortion rights, voting rights, fair pay etc.

“Change society”? WTH?

There is no societal shame in miscarriage. Full stop.

Like a pp said, it’s just not something you wear on your sleeve or bring up in casual conversation. Rather, you share when another person experiences it. You share to let them know you can empathize and to give them hope. Miscarriage is common. There’s no flipping stigma.

[Anonymous]

I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How far along was she?

MM’s miscarriage story is making news at the same time Christina Perri lost her daughter—stillborn at 32 weeks.

Every loss is hard. But if MM was very early on, then her emotionally wrought write-up is a bit tone deaf.

I’ve suffered 3 MCs by the way. An early MC isn’t the same as a later loss.

Also: I hate it when people celebrity-splain things we already know and elevate it to something it is not for their own purposes. Miscarriage isn’t shameful, it is rather common, and she isn’t brave for sharing. Rather, she’s vying for sympathy to shift the narrative. She wants to be a celebrity who is adored. Gross.

I had these thoughts when I read the story too. I also assume that if MM was further along she would have included that detail in her writing.

She absolutely would have milked a late term loss. For now she is probably just trying to milk her 7 week loss for all its worth because she wants to be though of as brave for sharing her all too common story. Problem is too many people have been down the same road and think her piece is trash due to the way it's written. She's gross at this point, nothing else to say.

I would honestly be surprised at this take but I saw how people reacted the same way (negatively) to Chrissy Teigen sharing her loss.

Its weird to me. Miscarriage - late-term or early - is not talked about at all. People write about it years later once they have their 'rainbow' babies but the idea that its commonplace for famous or well-known women, or even regular, women to speak up on it is false. Especially if they don't have to. Someone mentioned Christina Perri - I doubt you'd even known she had a miscarriage if she hadn't been so public about posting nude shots of her body in the third trimester. She couldn't very well hide the loss.

I have no idea who Christina Perri is. And in my experience, I know who of all my close friends and family have had miscarriages. Most of them have. It's talked about like most other sensitive topics. Child birth, sex, infertility, breast lumps, etc. It may not be for public consumption but among close circles of women and family it is talked about. I just didn't bring it to work, or with casual acquaintances. I'm speaking for myself only but I have to think other groups of women haven't made it taboo. At least I hope!

Talking about it in 'whispers' among circles of women does nothing to change the public mindset or outlook.

Many young women go into pregnancies with a lot of 'secrets' hovering that they don't even realize could or will be realities until tragedy strikes.

Aside from all that - fostering a whisper network is good but if you ever want to change society or have people change the way its acknowledged - you have to speak up. This is what happened with abortion rights, voting rights, fair pay etc.

What needs to change? People get funny about any kind of death. Or cancer diagnosis or any other bad news. It makes people uncomfortable no matter what, I don't see miscarriage as different in that regard.

Education. I think women, especially young women (18-29), need to have comprehensive maternal education. Not just on what could go wrong with a pregnancy, or what a set of extra chromosomes means for a future babies development, but also how to pick a partner who will support you as a parent, what declining fertile rates means, what are the side effects of x-and-x birth control, or what to expect in labor-and-delivery, what it means medically for you or the baby to have a stillborn child.

I think the sex, procreation, and maternal health education in this country is woefully underdeveloped. But that's nothing new.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but women in that age range don't want to hear anything about declining fertility no matter how educated they are. Look at the recent thread here that was titled something like "is 40 too old" and there were pages and pages of outrage at the mere suggestion.

But, again, people get funny about death of any kind. People are at a loss for what to say, or they worry about saying the wrong thing and then on the other side are the people got get upset at things said to them like "God has a plan" or "it was his time". People mean well, but it's very hard road to navigate since everyone is so different. With a miscarriage you are told things like "you can always have another' or 'it just wasn't mean to be" which people try to comfort with but often doesn't often have the intended effect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

Why? Meghan has never brought Kate this year or last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

Kate had severe morning sickness with each of her pregnancies. I don’t recall her whining in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was great. Open and honest.

Bunch of DCUM phonies.

Though the topic a very adult one, the prose read like a 7th grader’s diary. Awful and overwrought. Bet Meghan thought she was a genius as she wrote it. Embarrassed for her. It’s also such an obvious play for attention and sympathy. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

Kate had severe morning sickness with each of her pregnancies. I don’t recall her whining in public.

Or writing opinion pieces about it... or acting like she needs to draw attention to the shameful shared experience and be brave enough to talk about it... correct me if I’m wrong but she had it so bad she was hospitalized. I’m sure there were moments where she was really scared for her baby and for herself... where her husband was really scared as well...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

Kate had severe morning sickness with each of her pregnancies. I don’t recall her whining in public.

Or writing opinion pieces about it... or acting like she needs to draw attention to the shameful shared experience and be brave enough to talk about it... correct me if I’m wrong but she had it so bad she was hospitalized. I’m sure there were moments where she was really scared for her baby and for herself... where her husband was really scared as well...

Kate and William also do a lot of work to promote mental health awareness and the normalization of seeking help for mental health issues. They do the work and part of thier message is it’s ok not to be ok. They seem invested in society and the well being of others. Meghan talks on and on about whether or not she is okay, but where is her commitment - real commitment - to any public health or societal issue of import???

And no, posing occasionally with villagers or reading your baby a book on camera and posting it so you can seem like mother of the year doesn’t count.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think the asking others if they’re ok is a dig at Kate.

Kate had severe morning sickness with each of her pregnancies. I don’t recall her whining in public.

Or writing opinion pieces about it... or acting like she needs to draw attention to the shameful shared experience and be brave enough to talk about it... correct me if I’m wrong but she had it so bad she was hospitalized. I’m sure there were moments where she was really scared for her baby and for herself... where her husband was really scared as well...

Kate and William also do a lot of work to promote mental health awareness and the normalization of seeking help for mental health issues. They do the work and part of thier message is it’s ok not to be ok. They seem invested in society and the well being of others. Meghan talks on and on about whether or not she is okay, but where is her commitment - real commitment - to any public health or societal issue of import???

And no, posing occasionally with villagers or reading your baby a book on camera and posting it so you can seem like mother of the year doesn’t count.

Yes, and it never comes across as “ look at me! look at me!! please look!”

[Anonymous]

There is no stigma, just grief. Most women choose to share it only with close family and friends because it is so deeply personal. Meghan appears to need the public to share her pain.