Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting that so many of you have compared our lives today to something out of "The Handmaid's Tale," when what's going on with the Kavanaugh hearing is like something out of 1984. It's like we've devolved into a society in which the accused actually has to prove his innocence, rather than being proven guilty. I am honestly frightened for all of us, if all it takes to claim someone is guilty is simply saying so. So much for due process.

So much this. This should have been done discreetly, as soon as the allegations were made.

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Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

Really? How about answering yes or no to yes or no questions?

How about NOT meanly asking a US Senator if SHE had a drinking problem? For which he apologized, so even HE recognizes that he did not handle himself well in at least that one exchange.

Sorry, but I know I would be mighty surly at the heavy insinuations that I had a “drinking problem” and that I tried to rape a girl. Especially if, you know, I didn’t and I hadn’t. There is no way he can win here. The Democratic senators - people like yourself - have already decided he’s guilty. It’s really pretty disgusting.

This, exactly. How can you possibly prove a negative?

By calling for a FBI investigation! In the hearing the Democrats REPEATEDLY asked him if he wanted one. Something like 19 times! (He declined every time if you were not watching.)

Why so scared?

He wasn't scared but if he said yes it would impact the time line. What he said was that he would go along with whatever the committee recommended and that he had asked to be brought before the committee immediately but they stalled. He was not in a position to say yes, go ahead investigate. It wasn't an answer he could give. Why didn't the Dems ask for it as soon as they found out about the allegations? Why were they so scared?

Lol, what? He totally could have said that he welcomed an investigation, as is standard in these cases. The committee didn’t have to agree, but he had total freedom to say what he wanted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting that so many of you have compared our lives today to something out of "The Handmaid's Tale," when what's going on with the Kavanaugh hearing is like something out of 1984. It's like we've devolved into a society in which the accused actually has to prove his innocence, rather than being proven guilty. I am honestly frightened for all of us, if all it takes to claim someone is guilty is simply saying so. So much for due process.

So much this. This should have been done discreetly, as soon as the allegations were made.

If only the Republicans were running the committee! Oh wait, they were, and they could have picked a timeline that allowed for due process but didn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. No matter what you think about he assault allegations he demonstrated extreme partisanship, belief in conspiracy theories and an unhinged demeanor that do not suit a SC Justice.

Well, when you have one side calling you “evil” and stating that you will “destroy people,” it tends to have an effect on how you view them. He had every right to call out their games, their smears, their efforts to delay.

He was defending his reputation and his livelihood. I actually think he showed some restraint. I would have been a hell of a lot angrier had these false allegations been leveled at me.

Precisely. I saw controlled - and *justified*- anger. If my husband or son were accused of something that they flatly denied doing, I would fully understand their anger, frustration, and tears. Those PPs mocking Kavanaugh for becoming emotional obviously have no empathy whatsoever for someone trying to defend their honor while simultaneously being smeared in front of millions of people. Even if he is able to officially clear his name, his life will never be the same again. This is all that his kids will see on Google for the rest of their lives. Forget about all the great things he's done. He's being judged guilty in the court of public opinion. We might as well be back in Salem, 1692.

Save your faux outrage. He acted like a huge baby as a strategy. But what works for our entertainer/celebrity/POTUS doesn't work for a federal judge. He is unfit.

You must be joking, but sadly I know you're not. He and his family have had the worst two weeks of their lives, and will probably be living in this hell for the rest of their years. He was defending himself against an onslaught of completely unsubstantiated accusations. He was exhausted and rightfully so, furious. I would have been surprised had he not broken down at all. I honestly don't know how he got through it, as I know if I had been falsely accused of something and was trying to stand up for myself, I would be an incoherent, blubbering mess. Forget being calm, cool, and collected (as he has been during all of his other hearings, btw).

Anyone who thinks someone defending themselves is "acting like a huge baby" - and doing so deliberately?? has more than a few screws loose. I'd really hate for you or any of your loved ones to be in a similar situation. You might actually find yourself - GASP! - breaking down into tears. And wouldn't that be awful to be told you're "acting like a huge baby as a strategy." Karma, indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if Dr. Ford will be donating the $500k and growing GoFundMe money to the metoo movement?

She has to pay for security so some right wing idiot doesn't kill her or her kids. Remember that?

She said in her testimony that wealthy Palo Alto residents are paying for her security and other things.

So $500k is pure profit. It appears everything has been paid by someone else. If she manages to take down Kavanaugh, she will easily earn more millions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brett Kavanaugh's tears yesterday were those of a True American Patriot. A man who Loves This Land and is unafraid to show it and, get this!, unafraid to embrace his femininity, if that is what it takes. What liberals call his "lies" may in fact just be that he has his Eyes on The Prize. When Mr Kavanaugh sat there crying at the table, he showed he is truly Able to service President Trump is all ways. When will we embrace this saintly servant?

sarcasm, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. No matter what you think about he assault allegations he demonstrated extreme partisanship, belief in conspiracy theories and an unhinged demeanor that do not suit a SC Justice.

Well, when you have one side calling you “evil” and stating that you will “destroy people,” it tends to have an effect on how you view them. He had every right to call out their games, their smears, their efforts to delay.

He was defending his reputation and his livelihood. I actually think he showed some restraint. I would have been a hell of a lot angrier had these false allegations been leveled at me.

Precisely. I saw controlled - and *justified*- anger. If my husband or son were accused of something that they flatly denied doing, I would fully understand their anger, frustration, and tears. Those PPs mocking Kavanaugh for becoming emotional obviously have no empathy whatsoever for someone trying to defend their honor while simultaneously being smeared in front of millions of people. Even if he is able to officially clear his name, his life will never be the same again. This is all that his kids will see on Google for the rest of their lives. Forget about all the great things he's done. He's being judged guilty in the court of public opinion. We might as well be back in Salem, 1692.

Oh my heavens, Salem? Not even close.

His crying and anger were not the problem. But as soon as he started ranting about conspiracies and giving evasive answers, he lost all credibility. If you think this man is a stand-up guy, you have partisan blinders one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

Really? How about answering yes or no to yes or no questions?

How about NOT meanly asking a US Senator if SHE had a drinking problem? For which he apologized, so even HE recognizes that he did not handle himself well in at least that one exchange.

Sorry, but I know I would be mighty surly at the heavy insinuations that I had a “drinking problem” and that I tried to rape a girl. Especially if, you know, I didn’t and I hadn’t. There is no way he can win here. The Democratic senators - people like yourself - have already decided he’s guilty. It’s really pretty disgusting.

This, exactly. How can you possibly prove a negative?

By calling for a FBI investigation! In the hearing the Democrats REPEATEDLY asked him if he wanted one. Something like 19 times! (He declined every time if you were not watching.)

Why so scared?

He wasn't scared but if he said yes it would impact the time line. What he said was that he would go along with whatever the committee recommended and that he had asked to be brought before the committee immediately but they stalled. He was not in a position to say yes, go ahead investigate. It wasn't an answer he could give. Why didn't the Dems ask for it as soon as they found out about the allegations? Why were they so scared?

Ashley, it is time for you to start to question the stuff that comes out of his mouth. He is not being honest here. Well, the timeline part is partly true - it would affect the timeline, but those are very partisan concerns and are putting party desires above the integrity of the Supreme Court. It is not relevant to this. SC things are not rushed. He is a judge, he KNOWS that the system is slow and there are good reasons for that. He is basically full of crap with this. Sorry you bought it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. No matter what you think about he assault allegations he demonstrated extreme partisanship, belief in conspiracy theories and an unhinged demeanor that do not suit a SC Justice.

Well, when you have one side calling you “evil” and stating that you will “destroy people,” it tends to have an effect on how you view them. He had every right to call out their games, their smears, their efforts to delay.

He was defending his reputation and his livelihood. I actually think he showed some restraint. I would have been a hell of a lot angrier had these false allegations been leveled at me.

Precisely. I saw controlled - and *justified*- anger. If my husband or son were accused of something that they flatly denied doing, I would fully understand their anger, frustration, and tears. Those PPs mocking Kavanaugh for becoming emotional obviously have no empathy whatsoever for someone trying to defend their honor while simultaneously being smeared in front of millions of people. Even if he is able to officially clear his name, his life will never be the same again. This is all that his kids will see on Google for the rest of their lives. Forget about all the great things he's done. He's being judged guilty in the court of public opinion. We might as well be back in Salem, 1692.

Oh my heavens, Salem? Not even close.

His crying and anger were not the problem. But as soon as he started ranting about conspiracies and giving evasive answers, he lost all credibility. If you think this man is a stand-up guy, you have partisan blinders one.

On, not one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting that so many of you have compared our lives today to something out of "The Handmaid's Tale," when what's going on with the Kavanaugh hearing is like something out of 1984. It's like we've devolved into a society in which the accused actually has to prove his innocence, rather than being proven guilty. I am honestly frightened for all of us, if all it takes to claim someone is guilty is simply saying so. So much for due process.

So much this. This should have been done discreetly, as soon as the allegations were made.

If only the Republicans were running the committee! Oh wait, they were, and they could have picked a timeline that allowed for due process but didn’t.

If only the Democrats had MADE THE REPUBLICANS AWARE of the allegations over the summer instead of waiting until the eve of confirmation, *knowing* they could pull it out as a Hail Mary, if necessary. Wouldn't that have been nice if the Democrats had shared this information with the Republicans early on? But they didn't. I wonder why that is.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting that so many of you have compared our lives today to something out of "The Handmaid's Tale," when what's going on with the Kavanaugh hearing is like something out of 1984. It's like we've devolved into a society in which the accused actually has to prove his innocence, rather than being proven guilty. I am honestly frightened for all of us, if all it takes to claim someone is guilty is simply saying so. So much for due process.

So much this. This should have been done discreetly, as soon as the allegations were made.

If only the Republicans were running the committee! Oh wait, they were, and they could have picked a timeline that allowed for due process but didn’t.

Huh? I don't believe Ford sent her letter to or called the office of any republican.

[Anonymous]

I've read this thread off and on throughout the past two days, though obvously not all of it. I thought be may have had a drinking problem when he was younger, but now looking back at the hearing, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a highly functioning alcoholic. The two times he threw questions back at Senators was for Whitehouse and Klobacar. Neither were being reactionary and both were relating to alcohol consumption. He kept empasizing "just beer" too much for someone who has a healthy relationship with alcohol. And his wife looked pissed when he went on his tirades, it made me wonder if she has been on the receiving end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. No matter what you think about he assault allegations he demonstrated extreme partisanship, belief in conspiracy theories and an unhinged demeanor that do not suit a SC Justice.

Well, when you have one side calling you “evil” and stating that you will “destroy people,” it tends to have an effect on how you view them. He had every right to call out their games, their smears, their efforts to delay.

He was defending his reputation and his livelihood. I actually think he showed some restraint. I would have been a hell of a lot angrier had these false allegations been leveled at me.

Precisely. I saw controlled - and *justified*- anger. If my husband or son were accused of something that they flatly denied doing, I would fully understand their anger, frustration, and tears. Those PPs mocking Kavanaugh for becoming emotional obviously have no empathy whatsoever for someone trying to defend their honor while simultaneously being smeared in front of millions of people. Even if he is able to officially clear his name, his life will never be the same again. This is all that his kids will see on Google for the rest of their lives. Forget about all the great things he's done. He's being judged guilty in the court of public opinion. We might as well be back in Salem, 1692.

Oh my heavens, Salem? Not even close.

His crying and anger were not the problem. But as soon as he started ranting about conspiracies and giving evasive answers, he lost all credibility. If you think this man is a stand-up guy, you have partisan blinders one.

On, not one.

Obviously, the partisan blinders are on those of you who have insisted he's guilty, ever since the allegations first came to light, and with zero corroborating evidence. That's what partisans do. You refuse to consider the other side because you want to be right.

[Anonymous]

"The only person in this scenario who has truly had his character assassinated is Brett Kavanaugh. With no evidence, no corroborating witnesses, nothing - he is judged guilty of Ford's allegation. To you, he's guilty, even though there is zero proof or evidence. I honestly can't even believe that people like you call yourselves Americans. I certainly wouldn't wish what Kavanaugh and his family have gone through on my worst enemies."
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I presume you have a television and a brain in your head.

I guess I should not presume. If you watched last night's debacle you would know dear Brett is simply a clown. And should probably seek treatment for alcoholism and rage issues, stat. Just saying.

But maybe ask the FBI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting that so many of you have compared our lives today to something out of "The Handmaid's Tale," when what's going on with the Kavanaugh hearing is like something out of 1984. It's like we've devolved into a society in which the accused actually has to prove his innocence, rather than being proven guilty. I am honestly frightened for all of us, if all it takes to claim someone is guilty is simply saying so. So much for due process.

So much this. This should have been done discreetly, as soon as the allegations were made.

If only the Republicans were running the committee! Oh wait, they were, and they could have picked a timeline that allowed for due process but didn’t.

If only the Democrats had MADE THE REPUBLICANS AWARE of the allegations over the summer instead of waiting until the eve of confirmation, *knowing* they could pull it out as a Hail Mary, if necessary. Wouldn't that have been nice if the Democrats had shared this information with the Republicans early on? But they didn't. I wonder why that is.

Why do you wonder? Dr. Ford answered that question - you know, when she was being questioned by a sex crimes prosecutor - in the hearing. Go listen to it.