This is the magic thinking that has gotten hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed. There is so much FUD out there in pro-Ukrainian circles, that even decision makers are acting on false information. That's why the AFU kept feeding fresh conscripts into Bakhmut instead of withdrawing to more defensible positions. Its why Ukraine doesn't really have an army anymore and is drafting 60 year olds. |
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Conscription Age Limits. Yes, Ukraine can conscript age 60 and below. It's not like in Russia where there is no age limit (99-year-old-gramps is good to go!).
"The presidential decree, signed on March 27—which Putin designated as National Guard Day in 2017—states that age restrictions for its citizens in the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation serving in the affected regions have been lifted until January 1, 2026." Although, I'm sure you're wondering why Russia hasn't won against Ukraine yet? Don't worry. Now a lot of Russians are wondering the exact same thing. "Shebekino, a town of 40,000 people in the western Belgorod region, has been intensely shelled for days." "We, the people of Shebekino lost everything." https://news.yahoo.com/frightening-thousands-russians-flee-shelling-160238552.html “When drones flew to Moscow, there were immediately big stories; it was all over the news. And here, people have been under fire for months, and nothing.” https://news.yahoo.com/everything-changed-war-arrives-russians-141153997.html "Talk show presenter Andrei Norkin tells in the program about the impatience and incomprehension of the Russian population regarding the course of the war in Ukraine. During his travels through the country, he is asked every time: "Why does it take so long, why is there no more decisive action?" And he adds: "To put it strictly: Why don't we destroy them like rats?" The Russian political scientist Victor Olevich reacted very drastically to this statement in the program: "Do you know, if you say that your audience, your viewers ask you why we do not go harder, I would ask them a question: Are you ready for all your children to die and be pulverized in the trenches? Do you want everyone to land there?"" https://www.fr.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-propaganda-russland-putin-staats-tv-russischer-sieg-kreml-kritik-bevoelkerung-news-92314107.html Spending. The figures you're quoting are only if you use Kremlin-supplied numbers. "Russia’s expenditures on the war are rising rapidly. Military spending in 2022 was anticipated to reach 3.5 trillion rubles. Though the actual execution of the budget after the start of the war was classified, it is likely that real spending on the war exceeded that level by September. This is only part of military spending, which in the Russian budget is disguised as spending on health care, education, pensions, industry, and so on. In 2022, military expenditures may exceed 5 percent of GDP, the maximum since the collapse of the USSR." https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/putins-war-costs-shifting-burden-population Plus, Outfits like Gazprom are officially not part of 'Russian military spending'. "Recruitment for the battalions began in August last year" “Gazprom will equip you, we will pay you more money than normal contract soldiers receive,” “They said they would be able to go without losing their place at work, and would get a holiday upon return,” “They were promised heavenly terms,” said the woman, whose husband declined to volunteer. “A million [roubles] overall. Of course, all smart people laughed at that. But at the same time, many quickly pictured themselves buying a new flat within three months.” https://www.ft.com/content/4dd0aa0a-4b37-4082-8db0-0b969c539677 Neither are Chechen troops officially part of 'Russian military spending'. "According to Ramzan Kadyrov, 10,000 of his men (pictured) are already deployed in Ukraine." "The Kadyrovzy are considered an extremely brutal special unit. " "The military trade magazine "Oryx" calls the Chechen special forces the "fire brigade of the front" because the Kadyrovzy are always called when an operation is particularly sensitive." ""That they (the Kadyrovzy) invade the city, set everything on fire, rape and kill." The Chechen soldiers like to glorify their deeds on videos and publish them on social media, which is why the Kadyrovzy also bear the nickname "TikTok Brigade"." https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ukraine/id_100184848/putin-schickt-spezialeinheit-an-die-front-so-brutal-sind-die-kadyrowzy.html The Russian Government tried to drum up support from the private companies to help fund the war, but we all saw how that went. "This recent headline might sound familiar - Russian oligarch dies after hotel fall. Sausage magnate Pavel Antov fell to his death in India on Christmas Eve. And he has a lot of company. At least a dozen Russian businessmen have died mysteriously in the last year. Some have toppled from windows. Others tumbled downstairs or have been struck with fatal illnesses. In fact, just two days before Antov's death, someone traveling with him died in the same hotel of an apparent heart attack." https://www.npr.org/2022/12/29/1146096840/russian-businessmen-keep-mysteriously-dying-why On a personal note, I'd like to thank the pro-Russian troll for coming back to blog. It was really boring with no one to correct while you were away. OO XX |
Lol I thought you were wondering why Ukraine hasn’t won yet. Pretty soon it will be time for “My country have given Ukraine bazillions of dollars and all I got was this lousy T-shirt”. |
You have a weird concept of Russia that you insist is true despite actual facts. |
Not sure about you, but that's the most I get whenever I donate anyway. Heck, even the grocery store only give me back a receipt. Besides, you misunderstand. Many Ukrainians have already been killed. There is no "win" - only justice and perhaps vengeance. Eventually, over time, the Russians will also learn the true price they paid in Ukraine. Both the pro-Western and Ultranationalists Russians could seek retribution. If so, when that day does eventually come, I don't think there will be a safe place on the planet that a Russian Government official can hide. But perhaps that is the price to pay for raising and nurturing a ruthless, unforgiving population? |
I wouldn't trust Russia's numbers on what they are spending. They are expending a great deal on this war, worth around a billion dollars per day, according to multiple sources, such as this one. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-spending-estimated-900-million-day-ukraine-war-1704383 And it's not just military cost, there is also other economic costs such as sanctions, loss of revenue from no longer being able to charge high prices for its major export, fossil fuels, plus the cost of having to pay wages in the occupied territories, paying for hospitals and medical expenses for the tens of thousands of injured troops and so on - The overall cost to Russia of this war is already in excess of a trillion. |
You have a weird notion that Siberia 600 years ago was slavic Russia, despite actual facts. |
It doesn’t have to be Slavic to be Russia. Told you your concept of Russia is weird. |
Magical thinking. |
Shrug. It's not like it matters. We're all just Bystanders anyway. |
Quintessential European logic. Does not compute with Russians. Give it up - mathematics we have some common ground; beyond that there simply is nothing else. Hate to be the highlander theory here; DIME or PMESSI aren’t going to work. |
This is arrogant, hubristic slavic Russian thinking. Not everyone else in lands currently or formerly occupied by Russia would agree with your thinking. |
Of course it does not compute. This is the product of entire generations of Russians growing up lied to and lying to each other all believing their fictions. They think they are not fighting Ukraine, they think they are defeating and destroying NATO, they think their weapons are invincible and their borders are impenetrable and that they have killed 200,000 NATO soldiers at a cost of only 16,000 of their own. It's all a big fiction. |
Thus; the only course of action is to destroy their reality. Russians do not operate in ideality ; only reality. Russia (and Russians) have to endure on biblical; science fiction or whatever scale to understand outcomes. There is only one reality- they cannot see it until the live (or not) through it. It is a binary expression; don’t overthink it. |
Ehhh, I'd tell you the same, don't overthink it. Some misguided posters here seem to want to convey some notion that Russians are brave, determined, unrelenting and totally unconcerned by the casualties and the cost and the lies on their side yet the more likely reality is that they are simply not as familiar with the fallacy of sunk cost as it was never a big part of Soviet culture as it is in the West - meanwhile, at the very same time, thousands of cynical Russians all across the country are setting fire to recruitment centers, derailing logistics trains, setting FSB offices on fire, blowing up switchgear, setting refineries and critical factories on fire, defecting to Ukraine to fight against Russia and so much else. Sure, some do it for a few hundred dollars or a bottle of hooch, but many others do it as a big F. U. to Putin. It's not so rosy in Russia as some of the resident posters seem intent on having us believe. |