FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

FCPs has not done that. People have done that. When Langley boundaries were drawn, Herndon was crowded and there were not a lot of FARMS or non-English speaking kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

No one can ever get equitable access to programming because they have never defined what that is. What is IT?

[Anonymous]

I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

No. When you are close, you don't think about being on the periphery. And, even though there is no school closer, a boundary study like this is going to be a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

Seriously? You could always start by comparing the course catalogs at different schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

Seriously? You could always start by comparing the course catalogs at different schools.

Not the same person you were replying too, but I did. When you look online, it looks the same or you compare an IB school to an AP school and of course (haha) they are different.

Should everyone be offered TJ levels, Madison levels of classes, everyone get IB? Why do academies in different geographic locations get different programs. Why is immersion different in different pyramids? Why can they offer Montessori in only one school?

Why don’t they define this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

That may give some people comfort or cause for concern. It won’t provide much comfort to people at schools with large enrollments and compact boundaries like Chantilly and West Springfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

No one can ever get equitable access to programming because they have never defined what that is. What is IT?

And they never will define it because it’s a weasel term for SES rebalancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

No one can ever get equitable access to programming because they have never defined what that is. What is IT?

And they never will define it because it’s a weasel term for SES rebalancing.

+2. It’s not even - keys have approximately the same number of kids are each high school. Some schools are built out to 2,700 or son to be 3k and some seem forever stuck at 1,900. There is no way to offer exactly the same thing at each school, and to move kids to pretend to give a $hit about this is going to backfire big time on this school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

No one can ever get equitable access to programming because they have never defined what that is. What is IT?

And they never will define it because it’s a weasel term for SES rebalancing.

It’s an important goal even if it’s quickly dismissed by those comfortable with the disparities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

Seriously? You could always start by comparing the course catalogs at different schools.

Ok. I still do not follow you logic. You are talking about a difference in result. I am trying to understand how the relative wealth of students creates that different result.

FCPS can provide different course catalogs to schools without moving students, right? If you are saying that school A has concentrated poverty and a different course catalog than school B, with less poverty, why do you need to move students from school A to school B to change the course catalog?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

But when the school board decides to change the rules of the game and the implicit agreement with UMC that their kids won’t be moved absent compelling reason (which doesn’t exist here) in exchange for UMC support for public schools, it creates real risk for the entire school system. At this point UMC is the only segment of the population that really is going to stand up for public school - that’s why this whole exercise is uber-dangerous.

I’ve been on DCUM long enough to know that most people arguing for boundary changes do so out of spite for neighbors that they perceive as richer. There are the posters that claim that anyone against moving their kids must be in the level of the KKK. These posters seek to cut off their nose to spite their face.

You know who you are.

[Anonymous]

What would you define as a compelling reason?