a brilliant student at Michigan in the sciences will have the same opportunities as for grad school as a brilliant student from Harvard. You have to drop pretty far below before you get the point that phd programs won't consider a student based on their undergraduate degree. If you want to talk about the Supreme Court, Holy Cross has more graduates than the NESAC schools combined, does that mean that it's more elite than Williams? Is Rhodes more elite than Penn or Duke? Based on your Supreme Court test it is |
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These threads are all the same. Middle class and UMC neurotic parents obsessed with helicoptering their teen into the upper rungs of society. Truth is there’s no difference in the wealth found in an average group of Ivy kids and the selective frat/sorority houses at a big state school.
It does not matter where your kid goes. They either have “it” or they don’t. “It” includes academic preparation...raw ambition...beauty...and of course the gift of gab. Within the first couple of weeks on campus your kid is sorted. Unlikely your striver kid is lucky enough to fall of with rich (especially if you’re not a private high school alum), and even if they do, even more unlikely those friendships will last beyond college outside of a wedding invitation. |
| It matters for some people and not all for others. |
If you are middle class or UMC then sure. If you aren’t studies have shown that top schools provide a massive leg up for LMC kids who wouldn’t even be able to afford frat dues at a state school. |
| Rich kids befriend each other. And oddly enough many of these rich kids tend to already sort of know each other before college via ECs, camps, vacation homes, family and friends orbit. |
| It’s a sad state of humanity but let’s keep it real. The uglier your face and body are the more important it is and the more likely you are to be a rabid booster as to how great your school is. |
| I think it has more difference in life experiences, where you end up, who you meet, etc. than for your career outcome. |
This is definitely true at least in the country club sport circuit. |
| If you’re a middle or even UMC kid at Northwestern getting some financial aid... guess who your closest friends are going to be. |
Who are they going to be? |
so true, these kids are bringing back the cool nerd |
Other financial aid kids who spend their days and nights being jealous of rich kids. |
see, told you so, the perks are better than the membership |
All this investment banking spam seems like trolls. Nobody outside of NJ/NY/CT is this obsessed with banking.
If PP was genuine, and assuming PP was moderately attractive, she would have just as easily met a rich husband after being a state school sorority girl or attending some half-decent liberal arts college like Trinity or Hobart and William Smith. |
| I went to an all women’s college and the “old girls network” definitely made a difference |