Why don't Christians observe Passover and other biblical holidays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the other holidays OP is confused about too?

Shavuot — why would Christians celebrate a holiday that’s about God giving the Jews the Torah?

Sukkot — it’s basically a harvest festival so I guess if you want to build a sukkah, knock yourself out?

Hahaha! Build that sukkah, let’s see what your neighbors say. And don’t forget, we just have tub’shvat. Did you guys plant any trees?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the other holidays OP is confused about too?

Shavuot — why would Christians celebrate a holiday that’s about God giving the Jews the Torah?

Sukkot — it’s basically a harvest festival so I guess if you want to build a sukkah, knock yourself out?

Hahaha! Build that sukkah, let’s see what your neighbors say. And don’t forget, we just have tub’shvat. Did you guys plant any trees?

LOL love it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect for Jewish traditions on this thread is appalling.

Seders are sacred. Most sacred rituals require a minyan.

Please be respectful.

Please don't put words in people's mouths. Please don't argue against points that haven't been made. Someone is claiming I called the gathering at my church a "Seder" when I never said any such thing. Please be respectful by not lumping posters together, and by not putting words in people's mouths so that you can argue.

I’m directing my comment at those who *did* call what they did at Church a Seder. If you didn’t, then great!

FINALLY. You acknowledge that there are many different posters in this thread, and that some of them actually aren't doing anything disrespectful. Finally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP

I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore, but my recollection was that we thought of what we call the Old Testament, and Moses, and Abraham and Sarah, et al, as our literal and spiritual ancestors. Of course their deliverance from slavery was a cause for celebration.

Mind you, we didn't call it a Seder meal, and we didn't wear yarmulkes, but at the time of Passover, we made mention of it in service and were grateful for it.

Nowadays, I am much more into Passover, mainly because in my online community, my Jewish friends share their preparations and events with the others. I know when they are kashering their kitchens, and I have been sold Chametz. I know when my Jewish nurse friend is worried about coverage for her shifts, and what the best recipes are for challah French toast. It's a part of my annual rhythms and seasons to celebrate their joy of Pesach with them. it's not my story by any means, but it is a part of my life.

Oh for the love of goy! Challah French toast?

You know you can’t eat that during Passover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So then there’s literally nothing I, as a non-Christian, can’t do at your Church?

So then what *are* the rules?

Someone posted them back on page 1 or 2!

Love the lord your god
Love your neighbor as yourself

The end.

Lots of religions are big on rules. Christianity (at it's core) isn't. It's ridiculously simple. Believe in Jesus, love people, that's all.

But the one that says “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.” That’s a big one, right? That’s the one that gets you into Heaven. So you say you don’t have many rules, but if you’ve got one that prevents you from suffering eternal damnation — well, that’s a pretty damn important rule.

You call it a rule...I call it a gift.
A gift which you have the absolute free will to accept or reject.
And yes, it's a pretty big one. In fact it is the ONLY requirement. "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through Me." John 14:6

So you can go through all the motions of rituals and ceremonies and standing and sitting and praying and singing and whatever makes you feel close to God. But none of that is required. The ONLY thing that is absolutely spelled out by Jesus in order for us to have salvation is that we say "YES. Yes, Christ Jesus, I accept that you are my personal savior. I accept your gift of salvation."

You have already sinned. We ALL have and continue to repeatedly. Every action has a consequence. This is true the world over by design. And by design of our creator, the wages (payment) of sin is death.

But God the Father does not want us to live in separation from Him for all eternity. So he offered a solution to this bitter consequence. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:!6

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So then there’s literally nothing I, as a non-Christian, can’t do at your Church?

So then what *are* the rules?

Someone posted them back on page 1 or 2!

Love the lord your god
Love your neighbor as yourself

The end.

Lots of religions are big on rules. Christianity (at it's core) isn't. It's ridiculously simple. Believe in Jesus, love people, that's all.

But the one that says “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.” That’s a big one, right? That’s the one that gets you into Heaven. So you say you don’t have many rules, but if you’ve got one that prevents you from suffering eternal damnation — well, that’s a pretty damn important rule.

You call it a rule...I call it a gift.
A gift which you have the absolute free will to accept or reject.
And yes, it's a pretty big one. In fact it is the ONLY requirement. "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through Me." John 14:6

So you can go through all the motions of rituals and ceremonies and standing and sitting and praying and singing and whatever makes you feel close to God. But none of that is required. The ONLY thing that is absolutely spelled out by Jesus in order for us to have salvation is that we say "YES. Yes, Christ Jesus, I accept that you are my personal savior. I accept your gift of salvation."

You have already sinned. We ALL have and continue to repeatedly. Every action has a consequence. This is true the world over by design. And by design of our creator, the wages (payment) of sin is death.

But God the Father does not want us to live in separation from Him for all eternity. So he offered a solution to this bitter consequence. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:!6

Yeah, but it’s a BIG one because if you don’t follow it, you’re going to hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP

I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore, but my recollection was that we thought of what we call the Old Testament, and Moses, and Abraham and Sarah, et al, as our literal and spiritual ancestors. Of course their deliverance from slavery was a cause for celebration.

Mind you, we didn't call it a Seder meal, and we didn't wear yarmulkes, but at the time of Passover, we made mention of it in service and were grateful for it.

Nowadays, I am much more into Passover, mainly because in my online community, my Jewish friends share their preparations and events with the others. I know when they are kashering their kitchens, and I have been sold Chametz. I know when my Jewish nurse friend is worried about coverage for her shifts, and what the best recipes are for challah French toast. It's a part of my annual rhythms and seasons to celebrate their joy of Pesach with them. it's not my story by any means, but it is a part of my life.

Oh for the love of goy! Challah French toast?

You know you can’t eat that during Passover.

You know that as someone who has identifies as not Jewish, I most certainly can?

I took in challah bread from my friends and asked what to do with it. Maybe they are not good Jews, but they said that I could make French toast from it. Do you want me to report them or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So then there’s literally nothing I, as a non-Christian, can’t do at your Church?

So then what *are* the rules?

Someone posted them back on page 1 or 2!

Love the lord your god
Love your neighbor as yourself

The end.

Lots of religions are big on rules. Christianity (at it's core) isn't. It's ridiculously simple. Believe in Jesus, love people, that's all.

But the one that says “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.” That’s a big one, right? That’s the one that gets you into Heaven. So you say you don’t have many rules, but if you’ve got one that prevents you from suffering eternal damnation — well, that’s a pretty damn important rule.

You call it a rule...I call it a gift.
A gift which you have the absolute free will to accept or reject.
And yes, it's a pretty big one. In fact it is the ONLY requirement. "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through Me." John 14:6

So you can go through all the motions of rituals and ceremonies and standing and sitting and praying and singing and whatever makes you feel close to God. But none of that is required. The ONLY thing that is absolutely spelled out by Jesus in order for us to have salvation is that we say "YES. Yes, Christ Jesus, I accept that you are my personal savior. I accept your gift of salvation."

You have already sinned. We ALL have and continue to repeatedly. Every action has a consequence. This is true the world over by design. And by design of our creator, the wages (payment) of sin is death.

But God the Father does not want us to live in separation from Him for all eternity. So he offered a solution to this bitter consequence. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:!6

Yeah, but it’s a BIG one because if you don’t follow it, you’re going to hell.

Well, *I'm* not sending you anywhere. LOL

[Anonymous]

PS WE EAT MATZAH BRAI DURING PASSOVER. It’s gross, so need to appropriate it.

[Anonymous]

The challah was stale when it was given to me, because it hadn't been used or used up in time. It made absolutely excellent French toast.

I was a college student happy for stale bread. None of us wasted much back then, although sometimes our best planning did not prevent stale bread. Alas. Life is harsh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The challah was stale when it was given to me, because it hadn't been used or used up in time. It made absolutely excellent French toast.

I was a college student happy for stale bread. None of us wasted much back then, although sometimes our best planning did not prevent stale bread. Alas. Life is harsh.

Your Jewish friends gave you stale challah? Why did it go stale in their house? This makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The challah was stale when it was given to me, because it hadn't been used or used up in time. It made absolutely excellent French toast.

I was a college student happy for stale bread. None of us wasted much back then, although sometimes our best planning did not prevent stale bread. Alas. Life is harsh.

Your Jewish friends gave you stale challah? Why did it go stale in their house? This makes no sense.

Have you ever raised kids as a college student while sharing a pantry with others? Things happen.

[Anonymous]

This bit about cultural appropriation suggests that many on this forum are unaware that many, many Christians do celebrate a Christian Passover and that it consists of unleavened bread to represent Christ's life free from sin and wine to represent the blood of Christ...and that the Christian passover service is symbolic of the New Covenant in Christ. Some Christian passover services also include rituals such as washing of each others' feet (though I've never been in a congregation that does this) in the way that Christ washed the feet of his disciples before the last supper.

I've never heard of a Christian Passover meal being referred to as a seder though.

I think it is maybe a bit surprising to Jews that we share so much of the same "story" of our faith? I often react in the same way when Mormon friends talk about stories or verses in the Book of Mormon. Their religion has the same Old and New Testaments that my Christian religion observes, but then they have these added sacred texts that are essential to their belief system on top of what my religion believes. And then they call themselves the One True Church. They are the REAL Christians.
So, of course it sets up an odd feeling inside me of how they are "doing it wrong"...but I don't have any animosity because I do think they are sincere in their beliefs. I don't think anyone on this thread is trying to mock Jewish people for their practices or faith. We just have varying degrees of understanding about what it is that each other believes/practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This bit about cultural appropriation suggests that many on this forum are unaware that many, many Christians do celebrate a Christian Passover and that it consists of unleavened bread to represent Christ's life free from sin and wine to represent the blood of Christ...and that the Christian passover service is symbolic of the New Covenant in Christ. Some Christian passover services also include rituals such as washing of each others' feet (though I've never been in a congregation that does this) in the way that Christ washed the feet of his disciples before the last supper.

I've never heard of a Christian Passover meal being referred to as a seder though.

I think it is maybe a bit surprising to Jews that we share so much of the same "story" of our faith? I often react in the same way when Mormon friends talk about stories or verses in the Book of Mormon. Their religion has the same Old and New Testaments that my Christian religion observes, but then they have these added sacred texts that are essential to their belief system on top of what my religion believes. And then they call themselves the One True Church. They are the REAL Christians.
So, of course it sets up an odd feeling inside me of how they are "doing it wrong"...but I don't have any animosity because I do think they are sincere in their beliefs. I don't think anyone on this thread is trying to mock Jewish people for their practices or faith. We just have varying degrees of understanding about what it is that each other believes/practice.

No we all know the history. Just call it Christian Passover. Don’t act like you’re doing the same thing as us, when you’re clearly not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So then there’s literally nothing I, as a non-Christian, can’t do at your Church?

So then what *are* the rules?

Someone posted them back on page 1 or 2!

Love the lord your god
Love your neighbor as yourself

The end.

Lots of religions are big on rules. Christianity (at it's core) isn't. It's ridiculously simple. Believe in Jesus, love people, that's all.

But the one that says “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.” That’s a big one, right? That’s the one that gets you into Heaven. So you say you don’t have many rules, but if you’ve got one that prevents you from suffering eternal damnation — well, that’s a pretty damn important rule.

You call it a rule...I call it a gift.
A gift which you have the absolute free will to accept or reject.
And yes, it's a pretty big one. In fact it is the ONLY requirement. "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through Me." John 14:6

So you can go through all the motions of rituals and ceremonies and standing and sitting and praying and singing and whatever makes you feel close to God. But none of that is required. The ONLY thing that is absolutely spelled out by Jesus in order for us to have salvation is that we say "YES. Yes, Christ Jesus, I accept that you are my personal savior. I accept your gift of salvation."

You have already sinned. We ALL have and continue to repeatedly. Every action has a consequence. This is true the world over by design. And by design of our creator, the wages (payment) of sin is death.

But God the Father does not want us to live in separation from Him for all eternity. So he offered a solution to this bitter consequence. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:!6

Yeah, but it’s a BIG one because if you don’t follow it, you’re going to hell.

Well, *I'm* not sending you anywhere. LOL

But you believe devout Jews are going to hell.