The Karen meme silences White women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a middle-aged white woman, I can attest that all my friends and acquitances who are "Karen's" never think about this meme and have not stopped "karening.'

If you have, you are probably not much of a "Karen" in the first place.

Karens will NEVER stop being themselves or silent. They will fight until the end to justify their behavior. So many Karens on this thread. Never change Karen, never change (I know you won’t).

[Anonymous]

Notice how no one if defending white criminals (Nordstrom/Bloomingdales) but that black criminals are thoroughly defended, well past the point of reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a middle-aged white woman, I can attest that all my friends and acquitances who are "Karen's" never think about this meme and have not stopped "karening.'

If you have, you are probably not much of a "Karen" in the first place.

Karens will NEVER stop being themselves or silent. They will fight until the end to justify their behavior. So many Karens on this thread. Never change Karen, never change (I know you won’t).

So, OP proved her point saying people are not entitled to their opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the term Karen does not refer to simple assertive behavior? That it refers to entitled, irritable behavior especially in the presence of minorities, such as calling the cops on them?

“ Contrary to what some silly articles have claimed, no serious person is equating Karen with the N-word. People of colour should describe their experiences of racism in whatever language works for them. But women should also be free to point out when a trope has become mired in sexism without being accused of being humourless old shrews, ie Karens. No one wants to be a Karen, amirite? The Karen meme has become a way of not just describing women’s behaviour, but controlling it. No wonder so many men enjoy it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/fashion/2020/apr/13/the-karen-meme-is-everywhere-and-it-has-become-mired-in-sexism

I never hear men use the term. It's always women talking about other women. This site is probably the clearest example of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notice how no one if defending white criminals (Nordstrom/Bloomingdales) but that black criminals are thoroughly defended, well past the point of reason.

Umm... did you not see where posters said the white thief was probably mentally ill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the term Karen does not refer to simple assertive behavior? That it refers to entitled, irritable behavior especially in the presence of minorities, such as calling the cops on them?

“ Contrary to what some silly articles have claimed, no serious person is equating Karen with the N-word. People of colour should describe their experiences of racism in whatever language works for them. But women should also be free to point out when a trope has become mired in sexism without being accused of being humourless old shrews, ie Karens. No one wants to be a Karen, amirite? The Karen meme has become a way of not just describing women’s behaviour, but controlling it. No wonder so many men enjoy it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/fashion/2020/apr/13/the-karen-meme-is-everywhere-and-it-has-become-mired-in-sexism

But did you see the original definition?

“Karen” is commonly used in the US to refer to a strident middle-class white woman who talks down to people of colour, usually in serving-staff positions."

This is what it means in common parlance. Perhaps people (white men, younger white men) have co-opted it to a small extent to mean something else, but this is still the way it's usually used, IME. And it's certainly not worthy of whinging OPs like this one about white women being oppressed or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notice how no one if defending white criminals (Nordstrom/Bloomingdales) but that black criminals are thoroughly defended, well past the point of reason.

Won't someone think of the little old white ladies shoplifting from Bloomingdales???!/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the term Karen does not refer to simple assertive behavior? That it refers to entitled, irritable behavior especially in the presence of minorities, such as calling the cops on them?

“ Contrary to what some silly articles have claimed, no serious person is equating Karen with the N-word. People of colour should describe their experiences of racism in whatever language works for them. But women should also be free to point out when a trope has become mired in sexism without being accused of being humourless old shrews, ie Karens. No one wants to be a Karen, amirite? The Karen meme has become a way of not just describing women’s behaviour, but controlling it. No wonder so many men enjoy it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/fashion/2020/apr/13/the-karen-meme-is-everywhere-and-it-has-become-mired-in-sexism

I never hear men use the term. It's always women talking about other women. This site is probably the clearest example of that.

Yup. One of the other political threads uses this exact term to silence a woman whose opinion isn’t wanted. Not racist, not inflammatory - just not wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a white middle aged woman. Due to the Karen meme I feel like I lost my voice. When there is an injustice, I will hesitate to speak up. Don’t get me wrong, there are certainly a subset of entitled middle aged white women, however, there are other non entitled white women as well who now feel silenced after fighting to find our voice.

If using your voice doesn't involve harassing minorities for no good reason and calling the cops on them, why have you lost your voice? Be reasonable and you have nothing to fear. A video of a white woman making a reasonable request is unlikely to go viral. Black women making even reasonable requests are often viewed as "angry" so be grateful you don't have that burden.

[Anonymous]

If the only time you want to speak up is at curbside pick up and to report a black kid selling lemonade, you have nothing of interest to say anyway.
The problem with Karens is that they always pick up on someone they perceive as weaker than them. I bet you no Karens would ever get in the middle of a kid getting beat up, or if a manager is rude to an employee. How come Karens do not call the police when they hear their neighbor beating his wife?
Hence, if for some reason you think that the term Karen has affected your right to call 911, or tell people how things should be done..you admit that you were calling about stupid, frivolous acts. As op clearly demonstrated that she wanted to do.
Karens are women that think the world exists to serve and please them. If you called 911 on a burglary, nobody would call you Karen. Thinking it is your duty to give teens working at Smoothie King a piece of your mind, makes you a Karen. Distinction is very clear. There is OP mad that she had to get out of her car to get a smoothie!
DD and I went to get smoothies a couple of weeks ago. I parked, DD went in, got it and we left. That is all that is involved in getting a smoothie. No knickers in a knot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a middle-aged white woman, I can attest that all my friends and acquitances who are "Karen's" never think about this meme and have not stopped "karening.'

If you have, you are probably not much of a "Karen" in the first place.

Karens will NEVER stop being themselves or silent. They will fight until the end to justify their behavior. So many Karens on this thread. Never change Karen, never change (I know you won’t).

https://www.tiktok.com/tag/karen?lang=en

[Anonymous]

There is never any reason to complain about some teens not bringing you your smoothie to the car. Never.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a white middle aged woman. Due to the Karen meme I feel like I lost my voice. When there is an injustice, I will hesitate to speak up. Don’t get me wrong, there are certainly a subset of entitled middle aged white women, however, there are other non entitled white women as well who now feel silenced after fighting to find our voice.

I can understand what you are saying. I am Indian-American and I am accused of standing by and not contributing, or being a tiger mom, or taking the jobs from people or getting my kids prepped. People see what they see and they react to whatever they want to react to. A lot of stereotypes are being broken now (Rahul Dubey opening his home to shelter protestors being one), and I expect people to react to what I am doing in front of them rather than what they think about me. I also stay away from social media because it is very hard to convey nuances in a tweet or a comment. Don't feel silenced but be very mindful of what you say. The correct words matter but the correct actions matter even more. So speak with your actions.