FCPS TJ Class of 2024 Press Release - Buried; AA Admits "TS" to Mention

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Anonymous wrote:Some posts make it difficult to take racist Asians seriously. No, Asians are not smarter. They may take "education" seriously, but they are not the Master Race.
Generally, white boys want to be in classes with Asians, but that is simply Yellow Fever.

This post shows how racist these anti-TJ people truly are. Master Race? Are you kidding me? This is the 21st century and you still think there should be a master race?
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What's unattractive to others is how much of TJ is now a rat race as opposed to how it was before. Before kids who really enjoyed STEM would find their place at TJ. Now, even if you love STEM, you also need to be prepared for the rat race. My DC is taking multivariable/matrix in 11th at the base school. While that may not be TJ pace, that's wonderful for a STEM kid who doesn't want to be in a pressure cooker environment. When you have those options at the base school, there's no pressing need to go to TJ.


I love it! Complaining about the rat race at TJ and putting your kid in multi/matrix as a junior...

Over-acceleration is an Asian problem?


That's where my DC landed naturally. DC has never had a math tutor or taken math class outside of DC's public schools. My point was that kids who love STEM can take STEM classes at base schools and don't need TJ.


I'm in another part of the country so this is surprising to me. Not only does the district offer multivariable calculus in the regular high schools but there's a standard math track to take it in 1tth grade?
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It's not a private school where the solution to every problem is a charity auction.

It's a public resource that should be operated for the benefit of all who subsidize it.

Whether by design or by default, TJ has sent a clear message to non-Asian kids that they are "less than." Applications are declining rapidly, and blacks, Hispanics and whites are all so dispirited by their admissions odds and what their experience likely would be like even if they were admitted that only 3-5% of eligible students apply. Meanwhile, close to 30% of the Asian 8th graders in the participating jurisdictions apply and over 70% of the admitted students are Asian.

It has been an abject failure as a community institution and FCPS - which can't churn out enough messages these days about its commitment to equity and opposition to racism - does nothing.


TJ was never meant to be a representative reflection. It is a STEM-focused school that offers top-notch education to all who apply and can get in. If you have evidence that the admissions committee gives preferential treatment to Asians, please publish it. The mere fact that it did not admit enough of a certain ethnic or racial group is not by itself evidence of bias.

Perhaps you should ask yourself - what is it that TJ offers that happens to be SO attractive to Asians and SO unattractive to others?


A reasonable chance of getting in if you're Asian and a student body that's over 70% Asian.


You are incorrect, TJ admissions discriminates against Asians in the admissions process. Asian applicants have to show higher test scores, better grades, better recommendation letters, more STEM activities and they are penalized in the subjective areas such as essays. You got it reversed.


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Asian student percentage at TJ would be higher without the systematic discrimination against Asian applicants in the admissions process.


Well supported with data points. . .


We would have the relevant data but FCPS refuses to release the applicant information (GPA, test scores, essays, LOR etc.) with the personal information redacted (except for the race, gender) for the past 10 years because they know the relevant data will show that Asian applicants to TJ are discriminated against in the admission process.


Four words: Freedom of Information Act.

It was used recently against UVA and W&M to show disparities in admissions based on race.

https://ceousa.org/attachments/article/1329/Preferences%20in%20Virginia%20Higher%20Education%20-%20September%202019.pdf
https://www.thecollegefix.com/virginia-public-colleges-make-asian-americans-work-harder-to-get-in-study-finds/
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Anonymous wrote:Some posts make it difficult to take racist Asians seriously. No, Asians are not smarter. They may take "education" seriously, but they are not the Master Race.
Generally, white boys want to be in classes with Asians, but that is simply Yellow Fever.

This post shows how racist these anti-TJ people truly are. Master Race? Are you kidding me? This is the 21st century and you still think there should be a master race?


Sorry, but you are going to need a proper lineup to follow this thread I wrote this and am a pro-TJ white person. My wife is Asian and constantly feeds me this crap about how much smarter Asians are than whites and so after a spate of day drinking, I might tend to hyperbolize. So, sue me.
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Anonymous wrote:Just an observer but I think the county should be extremely proud to have the number #1 rated High School in the country. can't do much better than that. Most of the rest of the high schools aren't much worse in NOVA anyway, and most all of the best students, be it from TJ or the other HS's, wind up at U.Va anyway.

Relatively few TJ kids end up at UVA. Over half that apply are rejected, and the top students use UVA as a safety.


Really, over half are rejected? I wonder why, they don't want too many from the same school I guess.

That is probably the reason. The reality is that it that you have to have better stats from TJ than from the other FCPS schools to get into UVA.


This just shows the iodiocy of those (probably concerned whites) complaining that URMs aren't admitted to TJ. Most smart URMs can get into UVA from their base schools and still be around their friends. Why would they waste their time applying to TJ? Let the strivers who want to be able to say their kids went to TJ have TJ. Smart kids from other races will choose to flourish at their base schools instead of buying into the TJ hype. After high school no one cares that you went to TJ.


You go to TJ because this level of education is not available elsewhere, not to earn the chips to cash at the admissions casino. It's not about bragging rights. It's about what TJ can put into your brains.


Sure it is
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It's not a private school where the solution to every problem is a charity auction.

It's a public resource that should be operated for the benefit of all who subsidize it.

Whether by design or by default, TJ has sent a clear message to non-Asian kids that they are "less than." Applications are declining rapidly, and blacks, Hispanics and whites are all so dispirited by their admissions odds and what their experience likely would be like even if they were admitted that only 3-5% of eligible students apply. Meanwhile, close to 30% of the Asian 8th graders in the participating jurisdictions apply and over 70% of the admitted students are Asian.

It has been an abject failure as a community institution and FCPS - which can't churn out enough messages these days about its commitment to equity and opposition to racism - does nothing.


TJ was never meant to be a representative reflection. It is a STEM-focused school that offers top-notch education to all who apply and can get in. If you have evidence that the admissions committee gives preferential treatment to Asians, please publish it. The mere fact that it did not admit enough of a certain ethnic or racial group is not by itself evidence of bias.

Perhaps you should ask yourself - what is it that TJ offers that happens to be SO attractive to Asians and SO unattractive to others?


A reasonable chance of getting in if you're Asian and a student body that's over 70% Asian.


You are incorrect, TJ admissions discriminates against Asians in the admissions process. Asian applicants have to show higher test scores, better grades, better recommendation letters, more STEM activities and they are penalized in the subjective areas such as essays. You got it reversed.


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Asian student percentage at TJ would be higher without the systematic discrimination against Asian applicants in the admissions process.


Don't worry, soon there will be only Asian kids there. High achieving kids from other races aren't swayed by the hype.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.
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It's not a private school where the solution to every problem is a charity auction.

It's a public resource that should be operated for the benefit of all who subsidize it.

Whether by design or by default, TJ has sent a clear message to non-Asian kids that they are "less than." Applications are declining rapidly, and blacks, Hispanics and whites are all so dispirited by their admissions odds and what their experience likely would be like even if they were admitted that only 3-5% of eligible students apply. Meanwhile, close to 30% of the Asian 8th graders in the participating jurisdictions apply and over 70% of the admitted students are Asian.

It has been an abject failure as a community institution and FCPS - which can't churn out enough messages these days about its commitment to equity and opposition to racism - does nothing.


TJ was never meant to be a representative reflection. It is a STEM-focused school that offers top-notch education to all who apply and can get in. If you have evidence that the admissions committee gives preferential treatment to Asians, please publish it. The mere fact that it did not admit enough of a certain ethnic or racial group is not by itself evidence of bias.

Perhaps you should ask yourself - what is it that TJ offers that happens to be SO attractive to Asians and SO unattractive to others?


A reasonable chance of getting in if you're Asian and a student body that's over 70% Asian.


You are incorrect, TJ admissions discriminates against Asians in the admissions process. Asian applicants have to show higher test scores, better grades, better recommendation letters, more STEM activities and they are penalized in the subjective areas such as essays. You got it reversed.


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Asian student percentage at TJ would be higher without the systematic discrimination against Asian applicants in the admissions process.


Don't worry, soon there will be only Asian kids there. High achieving kids from other races aren't swayed by the hype.


Or they can't handle the rigors of the top high school.
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Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.
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Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.


That makes it worse: The reporter does not cite the original source for the information so the reporter is accountable for the data used in the article and the reporter has plagiarized substantial portion of the article w/o proper citation by not citing the source.

One would expect more from a "reporter" than a recent high school grad. The article is a garbage based on the foregoing.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.


That makes it worse: The reporter does not cite the original source for the information so the reporter is accountable for the data used in the article and the reporter has plagiarized substantial portion of the article w/o proper citation by not citing the source.

One would expect more from a "reporter" than a recent high school grad. The article is a garbage based on the foregoing.


It's a blog post, not an article in the New Yorker. Your comment is stupid. The statistics speak for themselves: TJ admitted so few black students (whether it's 0 or 10) that FCPS wouldn't even disclose the exact number.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.


That makes it worse: The reporter does not cite the original source for the information so the reporter is accountable for the data used in the article and the reporter has plagiarized substantial portion of the article w/o proper citation by not citing the source.

One would expect more from a "reporter" than a recent high school grad. The article is a garbage based on the foregoing.


It's a blog post, not an article in the New Yorker. Your comment is stupid. The statistics speak for themselves: TJ admitted so few black students (whether it's 0 or 10) that FCPS wouldn't even disclose the exact number.


It is not that FCPS is deliberately hiding the number. "TS" is used as a matter of policy when the number is fewer than 10 for any and all uses where number of students are reported for privacy reason.

Additionally, the number of black students admitted to TJ has been around 9-12 in recent years anyway so there is nothing to hide.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.


That makes it worse: The reporter does not cite the original source for the information so the reporter is accountable for the data used in the article and the reporter has plagiarized substantial portion of the article w/o proper citation by not citing the source.

One would expect more from a "reporter" than a recent high school grad. The article is a garbage based on the foregoing.


It's a blog post, not an article in the New Yorker. Your comment is stupid. The statistics speak for themselves: TJ admitted so few black students (whether it's 0 or 10) that FCPS wouldn't even disclose the exact number.


It is not that FCPS is deliberately hiding the number. "TS" is used as a matter of policy when the number is fewer than 10 for any and all uses where number of students are reported for privacy reason.

Additionally, the number of black students admitted to TJ has been around 9-12 in recent years anyway so there is nothing to hide.


FCPS buried this press release because they didn't want to call attention to the statistics.

Yes, FCPS often uses "TS" so as not to identify the exact number of students in a category when it is 10 or fewer. Whether they do that to protect the privacy of students or cover their own asses is open to debate. They are not compelled to do so.

In 2019-20, TJ only had 31 black students, so averaging less than 8 per grade.

TJ does not admit or enroll a class that looks anything like the jurisdictions that participate in TJ. TJ has a capped enrollment so the total number of students - just over 1800 - is almost 500 students below the average for a FCPS high school. The building and site clearly could be used to educate more kids.

To make matters worse, TJ enrolls roughly 500 students who live in other jurisdictions, so the number of Fairfax County students at TJ is about 1300. Meanwhile, excluding modulars, over half of the high schools in FCPS are overcrowded.

TJHSST cannot be allowed to continue in its current form.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change is coming.

https://bluevirginia.us/2020/06/as-people-across-america-protest-racial-inequity-1-public-high-school-in-the-country-tj-in-fairfax-va-just-admitted-zero-african-americans


The article is incorrect: TS means 9 or fewer NOT 0. Reporters should be more informed.


Looks like he borrowed from an article from a recent TJ graduate. Maybe it’s TJ graduates who need to be more informed.

https://medium.com/@neilkothari/the-race-to-a-better-tj-f68a4f51b04c

Anyway all the talk about “reforming“ TJ is an attempt to preserve the school by making it look slightly less racist and classist, when FCPS really needs to reclaim it for use as a community school to help address overcrowding.


That makes it worse: The reporter does not cite the original source for the information so the reporter is accountable for the data used in the article and the reporter has plagiarized substantial portion of the article w/o proper citation by not citing the source.

One would expect more from a "reporter" than a recent high school grad. The article is a garbage based on the foregoing.


It's a blog post, not an article in the New Yorker. Your comment is stupid. The statistics speak for themselves: TJ admitted so few black students (whether it's 0 or 10) that FCPS wouldn't even disclose the exact number.


It is not that FCPS is deliberately hiding the number. "TS" is used as a matter of policy when the number is fewer than 10 for any and all uses where number of students are reported for privacy reason.

Additionally, the number of black students admitted to TJ has been around 9-12 in recent years anyway so there is nothing to hide.


FCPS buried this press release because they didn't want to call attention to the statistics.

Yes, FCPS often uses "TS" so as not to identify the exact number of students in a category when it is 10 or fewer. Whether they do that to protect the privacy of students or cover their own asses is open to debate. They are not compelled to do so.

In 2019-20, TJ only had 31 black students, so averaging less than 8 per grade.

TJ does not admit or enroll a class that looks anything like the jurisdictions that participate in TJ. TJ has a capped enrollment so the total number of students - just over 1800 - is almost 500 students below the average for a FCPS high school. The building and site clearly could be used to educate more kids.

To make matters worse, TJ enrolls roughly 500 students who live in other jurisdictions, so the number of Fairfax County students at TJ is about 1300. Meanwhile, excluding modulars, over half of the high schools in FCPS are overcrowded.

TJHSST cannot be allowed to continue in its current form.

It seems it is actually zero:
https://www.facebook.com/tjvents/photos/p.3199949933376930/3199949933376930/?type=3&theater
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