Ways to protect yourself without a gun

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


Pp again. That is, if they don’t leave when the sirens go off. Both floors and my basement are protected by the system.


So the sirens will do what, exactly?

Deafen them to death?


Duh. Scare them into thinking the police are on their way. The times I’ve had false alarms and didn’t call the police off in time, the police showed up within 5 minutes with 4-5 uniformed and plain-clothes officers prepared for a home invasion. They showed up without sirens, deliberately. (And then they charged me $ for the false alarms).

I trust the police to handle this way better than I could. Nor do I want one of my family members getting all macho-vigilante around me and stashing guns around the house. Especially given the cop above who says once they’re within 6 feet of you a gun is useless—which is the likely scenario when an intruder wakes you up at 3am in your bed.

But I guess if your end-game is the intruder’s death, as you say, then only your own gun will do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can I also use a hammer to put out a kitchen fire?


No?


So I guess that would be about as dumb as using bug spray to stop a home invader.


You obviously failed Analogies 101.


It’s a perfect analogy.

Tell us why you think it’s a failed one please.


Are you Donald of the “perfect” everything?

Metal doesn’t put out fires. Bug spray in the eyes can stop a human. Both of these things are known by toddlers.



You seem a little slow, so I’ll explain it because I take pity on you.

Both are examples of using an inappropriate item to try and accomplish a task.

A hammer is the wrong tool for extinguishing a fire, just as bug spray is the wrong tool for defending yourself against a criminal.

A gun is the correct tool for defending yourself against a home invasion, just as a fire extinguisher is the correct tool for putting out a kitchen fire.



Now, go forth and dumb no more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can I also use a hammer to put out a kitchen fire?


No?


So I guess that would be about as dumb as using bug spray to stop a home invader.


You obviously failed Analogies 101.


It’s a perfect analogy.

Tell us why you think it’s a failed one please.


Are you Donald of the “perfect” everything?

Metal doesn’t put out fires. Bug spray in the eyes can stop a human. Both of these things are known by toddlers.



Oh, and btw, dry chemical fire extinguishers use aluminum silicate as an extinguishing agent... so in this particular case, metal DOES put out fires.

Thanks for demonstrating that not only don’t you understand analogies, but also chemistry, lolz
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can I also use a hammer to put out a kitchen fire?


No?


So I guess that would be about as dumb as using bug spray to stop a home invader.


You obviously failed Analogies 101.


It’s a perfect analogy.

Tell us why you think it’s a failed one please.


Are you Donald of the “perfect” everything?

Metal doesn’t put out fires. Bug spray in the eyes can stop a human. Both of these things are known by toddlers.



You seem a little slow, so I’ll explain it because I take pity on you.

Both are examples of using an inappropriate item to try and accomplish a task.

A hammer is the wrong tool for extinguishing a fire, just as bug spray is the wrong tool for defending yourself against a criminal.

A gun is the correct tool for defending yourself against a home invasion, just as a fire extinguisher is the correct tool for putting out a kitchen fire.



Now, go forth and dumb no more.


Not going to match your childish abuse. But if you’ve ever had bug spray in your eyes, you’d know it’s almost as good as mace for causing pain and stopping you cold.

Go forth and be wiser.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


Pp again. That is, if they don’t leave when the sirens go off. Both floors and my basement are protected by the system.


So the sirens will do what, exactly?

Deafen them to death?


Duh. Scare them into thinking the police are on their way. The times I’ve had false alarms and didn’t call the police off in time, the police showed up within 5 minutes with 4-5 uniformed and plain-clothes officers prepared for a home invasion. They showed up without sirens, deliberately. (And then they charged me $ for the false alarms).

I trust the police to handle this way better than I could. Nor do I want one of my family members getting all macho-vigilante around me and stashing guns around the house. Especially given the cop above who says once they’re within 6 feet of you a gun is useless—which is the likely scenario when an intruder wakes you up at 3am in your bed.

But I guess if your end-game is the intruder’s death, as you say, then only your own gun will do.


No answer to this one, huh? So you go with the taunts and stupid emojis instead. Nice!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can I also use a hammer to put out a kitchen fire?


No?


So I guess that would be about as dumb as using bug spray to stop a home invader.


You obviously failed Analogies 101.


It’s a perfect analogy.

Tell us why you think it’s a failed one please.


Are you Donald of the “perfect” everything?

Metal doesn’t put out fires. Bug spray in the eyes can stop a human. Both of these things are known by toddlers.



Oh, and btw, dry chemical fire extinguishers use aluminum silicate as an extinguishing agent... so in this particular case, metal DOES put out fires.

Thanks for demonstrating that not only don’t you understand analogies, but also chemistry, lolz


If this is what gun nuts are like, they’re immature brats....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'll be in my bunker...surrounded by a wall of impenetrable TP wall. They will not shoot me then. They will start carrying out my humongo packets of Costco TPs...

Once the desperate looter will be able to take a worry-free dump and clean their butts with cloud like softness of Charmin...they will be in too good a mood to be angry and go looting and pillaging again.


If you would have let everyone take only two, instead of hoarding it all, no one would loot, and you wouldn’t need a charmin bunker! Lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


Those "teens" are probably 6' tall and perfectly capable of killing you, as well as willing to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can I also use a hammer to put out a kitchen fire?


No?


So I guess that would be about as dumb as using bug spray to stop a home invader.


You obviously failed Analogies 101.


It’s a perfect analogy.

Tell us why you think it’s a failed one please.


Are you Donald of the “perfect” everything?

Metal doesn’t put out fires. Bug spray in the eyes can stop a human. Both of these things are known by toddlers.



You seem a little slow, so I’ll explain it because I take pity on you.

Both are examples of using an inappropriate item to try and accomplish a task.

A hammer is the wrong tool for extinguishing a fire, just as bug spray is the wrong tool for defending yourself against a criminal.

A gun is the correct tool for defending yourself against a home invasion, just as a fire extinguisher is the correct tool for putting out a kitchen fire.



Now, go forth and dumb no more.


Not going to match your childish abuse. But if you’ve ever had bug spray in your eyes, you’d know it’s almost as good as mace for causing pain and stopping you cold.

Go forth and be wiser.


I used Raid to stop a party fight in college. It was effective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


I'm the cop who posted from earlier. The goal is to make your house more difficult to get into than your neighbors. Most burglaries are smash and grabs so they care less about alarms. Let's be honest, by the time the monitoring company calls you've lost minutes right there. DH wanted our alarm system because he travels for work. If he didn't want it, I doubt I would have had one put in. Get good locks, use motion lights and any dog that barks is a plus. Ring cams are also helpful as both a deterrent and means to provide evidence for any break-ins on your street.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


I'm the cop who posted from earlier. The goal is to make your house more difficult to get into than your neighbors. Most burglaries are smash and grabs so they care less about alarms. Let's be honest, by the time the monitoring company calls you've lost minutes right there. DH wanted our alarm system because he travels for work. If he didn't want it, I doubt I would have had one put in. Get good locks, use motion lights and any dog that barks is a plus. Ring cams are also helpful as both a deterrent and means to provide evidence for any break-ins on your street.


So even dad upstairs with his gun under his pillow sounds pretty useless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


Those "teens" are probably 6' tall and perfectly capable of killing you, as well as willing to do so.


Nah. They made the mistake of talking to a black guy in the neighborhood (who took down their license plate and turned them in). They were dumb teens manipulated by the gang bosses back in DC.

You know, not all black teens are cold-blooded killers. Like you want to be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


I'm the cop who posted from earlier. The goal is to make your house more difficult to get into than your neighbors. Most burglaries are smash and grabs so they care less about alarms. Let's be honest, by the time the monitoring company calls you've lost minutes right there. DH wanted our alarm system because he travels for work. If he didn't want it, I doubt I would have had one put in. Get good locks, use motion lights and any dog that barks is a plus. Ring cams are also helpful as both a deterrent and means to provide evidence for any break-ins on your street.


So you’re saying they’re unlikely to come upstairs. In which case I’m doubly uninterested in going downstairs to kill someone in order to protect my flat-screen tv and laptops. (The antique silver is well hidden upstairs, thank you). Let the insurance company reimburse me.

Although opinions obviously differ—gun nut pp is totally up for killing people to protect his stuff. Maybe he can’t afford insurance.

If they do come upstairs, the siren will have already been going off a while. It’s me who turns the siren off, and enters the code for a home invasion. I don’t wait for the monitoring company to call me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


Those "teens" are probably 6' tall and perfectly capable of killing you, as well as willing to do so.


Nah. They made the mistake of talking to a black guy in the neighborhood (who took down their license plate and turned them in). They were dumb teens manipulated by the gang bosses back in DC.

You know, not all black teens are cold-blooded killers. Like you want to be.


And you don't know what that their intentions are "only" robbery, like you want it to be. If you're willing to gamble your life on the good intentions of someone breaking into your house, the more fool you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A good door with a good set of locks and bars on the windows. If my house looks harder to break into than my neighbors', I am not that worried about the need to defend myself in my home.


+1. I have a good security system with glass break and motion alarms. When an intruder asks me to turn the howling sirens off, I can enter a secret code that lets the company know I’m in a home invader situation. The cops can arrest them as they leave.

Unlike pp, I’m not up for blowing the heads off teens.


I'm the cop who posted from earlier. The goal is to make your house more difficult to get into than your neighbors. Most burglaries are smash and grabs so they care less about alarms. Let's be honest, by the time the monitoring company calls you've lost minutes right there. DH wanted our alarm system because he travels for work. If he didn't want it, I doubt I would have had one put in. Get good locks, use motion lights and any dog that barks is a plus. Ring cams are also helpful as both a deterrent and means to provide evidence for any break-ins on your street.


So you’re saying they’re unlikely to come upstairs. In which case I’m doubly uninterested in going downstairs to kill someone in order to protect my flat-screen tv and laptops. (The antique silver is well hidden upstairs, thank you). Let the insurance company reimburse me.

Although opinions obviously differ—gun nut pp is totally up for killing people to protect his stuff. Maybe he can’t afford insurance.

If they do come upstairs, the siren will have already been going off a while. It’s me who turns the siren off, and enters the code for a home invasion. I don’t wait for the monitoring company to call me.


You don't know what they intend to do - stay downstairs, come upstairs.
You don't know if they "only" want to steal your electronics or not.
You don't know if the cops are going to respond in time to your alarm or not.
But you'd rather take a chance on everything going your way than have the means to protect yourself if it doesn't.
(shrug) You do you.
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