3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD

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Anonymous wrote:Officials would not comment on where overseas the patients had traveled,

That means Iran or China


I wonder if they work for the State Department or the World Bank/IMF?
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Anonymous wrote:when do you guys think/predict we will see a case in VA? Are they even testing in Fairfax county? My daughter's school issued a emergency preparedness plan - it states the moment we have a confirmed case in Fairfax County - they close. I am just holding my breath ... what do you guys think? Will it come here?


It’s already there friend. They just do not have test results back.


It does not matter if it is there or not, because if it is in the Montgomery county we are as close to Fairfax as a far Fairfax from near Fairfax so "same difference". It is there. Think how many people commute daily from MoCo to Fairfax and vice versa. It is not like Farifax is a Pacific Island, you guys are right here next door.
We are all in it together.



We live in Fairfax County and DC attends school in Montgomery County. All of our doctors and most of our friends/kids friends live in Montgomery Co.


Yep. I commute from MoCo to NoVA every day. There's so much travel back and forth (and in/out of the District) that I have to assume it's all over this area, especially when you take into account the amount of international travel people here do.
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Anonymous wrote:Officials would not comment on where overseas the patients had traveled,

That means Iran or China


Italy.
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Anonymous wrote:Why’d he mention Moco schools? Where r these cases?


Bethesda


Do you know that? How?


DP. Bethesda, Rockville, or Chevy Chase seem like reasonable guesses.


Can we not guess during a situation like this?


For most people it’s a cold. Calm down.


For 20% of people it's not. That's a lot of people.


Cite?


If 80% of cases are mild, then that means 20% of cases are not mild. It's just math.


Again, cite.


It's like, on literally every single public health website. 80% of cases are "mild" aka not requiring medical care/ hospitalization/ no pneumonia (not "mild" like... you don't know you're sick, but "mild" like a case of seasonal flu where you're just stuck in bed for 3-4 days with a fever and a cough and then you're good to go) . 20% develop into something requiring more medical care.


Have you actually had influenza? It’s not 3-4 days. If mild cases of covid19 are akin to influenza then it’s not good. Imagine your household too ill to cook, care for the kids, walk the dog, go to the market. It’s really not good.


Somewhere in the mega thread, there was a citation that said mild cases lasted 2 weeks, severe cases 4-6 weeks. Damage to lungs in severe cases is expected to take months to heal, if the patient survives the illness.[/quo

A few years ago I got a "flu" tested negative for the actual flu. I had a fever for 10 straight days. I was up at all hours of the night getting in the tub because my whole body hurt so bad I couldn't take it. By day 7 I was crying on the phone with my doctor because it hurt to breathe and I was so so sick for so long. Nothing secondary, just a really terrible flu. It took me weeks to recover.
These viruses are out there, some are just more widespread than others. With all of them the elderly, very young and immunosuppressed will suffer more than the general public.
I feel like this corona virus is a better scenario than say Ebola, yes its deadly to some population but at lest its not deadly to everyone.
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Rockville is my guess.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm in Southern California where we are surrounded by CV - and I refuse to change how I go about my day.

Relax people! stop feeding the hysteria!


Well, I have a 92 year old grandma with lung disease and parents in their 60s, one of whom has underlying health problems, so yeah — I’m somewhat concerned.

There are estimates that 40% of the population could get it. With a 3 percent fatality rate, that’s roughly 4 million deaths in the USA.


The 3 percent fatality rate is a gross overestimate. They are so many mild cases of the virus that are not diagnosed.


Yes and no. I also think this is overestimate but here is now yes and how no:

Why yes:
If you consider the statistic, that is exactly what they say, they calculate all cases everywhere and they just run it against the death cases and there you are. So that is that.

Why no:
1. Because every person runs into different risks. Therefore general one size fits all death rate does not give the person an idea what their risks are.

2. Death rate should tell you your survival chances and it usually does when you have one disease that treats pretty much everyone the same way. This one does not. It affects people in different way.

3. As per above, death rates affects differently depending on:
a) age group you are in
b) preexisting conditions if you have any... hypertensions, lung problems aka asthma, scarring.. other cold or flu like sickness while you catch the corona virus on the top of them.. cancer.. also any cardiovascular situations make it bad as they lower your survival rate by much more then the death rate would indicate.
c) if you smoke
d) if you are a male
e) if you live in a country with poor sanitation
f) if you live in a country with poor health care system
g) if you live in a country with overloaded health care system and even if you could be well under normal conditions you can expire waiting for a hospital bed or ventilator
h) if you are young and strong, young and sick or old and strong or old and sick..
I) if you are under a lot of regular stress you might expire without any additional health conditions, see the case of the doctor of psychiatry who had nothing as far as the health issues but was stressed and tried and he did not make it pass few days.

So death rate means very little. Here we have tons of people on meds. Each of them must have something either emotional or mental or physical issues and they all affect the survival rate that gets cut with each other factor that applies to a person.

Imagine your neighbor 65, father of 4, hypertension, on meds, smoked half of his life...

Now calculate: Being over 65 puts him in much greater risks group then if he were younger, having a hypertension puts him in a great risk group, having smoked even if only in the past, his lungs are less then stellar as the smoke always damages lungs to a degree, having kids.. probably stressful work.. that added stress. And now you have a case that you really should take seriously and worry about exposure.
Because when your kid and your coworker that runs marathon or goes to the gym daily will shake it of like it was a bowl of cheerios, the next guy might not make it. So it is not something that however light should be taken lightly because it is like with mosquitos, Nobody runs from them in panic but if they bite you there is a chance of getting deadly disease. So no, not everybody gets it but in theory everybody can get it. If it is you.. then pray.

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This is a young, healthy guy and C19 sounds AWFUL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/F...-25-describes-coronavirus.html
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I hope the DCUM hive can identify where they live, approximately.



And where they work.

And what hospital they visited to be tested.

And which airport they used. And where they went grocery shopping after arriving home.


I was just thinking about this too and was hoping they tell us but here is a second thought.
1. They did come here from the airport.
2. They did go shopping.
3. They did go to the hospital to be tested.

And God only knows where else did they go. So all the people that were in contact with them went home to their kids, went to work, went shopping.. and carried it with them. So in theory it can be everywhere even if they tell us where they shopped it does not mean you could not come in contact with third generation contact. So eventually .. no difference.





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Ok time to buy milk and bread
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A lot of people are about to die.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are about to die.


Apparently according to the deniers, just the olds so NBD
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I hope the DCUM hive can identify where they live, approximately.



And where they work.

And what hospital they visited to be tested.

And which airport they used. And where they went grocery shopping after arriving home.


I was just thinking about this too and was hoping they tell us but here is a second thought.
1. They did come here from the airport.
2. They did go shopping.
3. They did go to the hospital to be tested.

And God only knows where else did they go. So all the people that were in contact with them went home to their kids, went to work, went shopping.. and carried it with them. So in theory it can be everywhere even if they tell us where they shopped it does not mean you could not come in contact with third generation contact. So eventually .. no difference.






I really hope they let us know the community these people live in so those of us who live in the community can know if we’ve been potentially exposed or not. Why is there shroud of secrecy here I understand maybe keeping the names of the people private, but the community? Just say they live in Rockville or Silver Spring or whatever they happen to live. Or even for the 50-year-old, where does she work? I work for a large company. We have a lot of travel all the time. Does she work in my building?
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Anonymous wrote:Officials would not comment on where overseas the patients had traveled,

That means Iran or China


More likely Italy. Barely any Americans go to Iran and China has been under restrictions for a long time at this point.


Then why not comment, hmmm? We had the NY person go to Iran and bring it back very recently
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Anonymous wrote:Bring it on. The only ones dying are old and immuno compromised people. This will feel like a bad chest cold. Let me develop some antibodies now, get two weeks off work, and build some tolerance before it mutates into something worse


I suggest you read the accounts of young people who developed it in Wuhan China. It made a flu sound like a walk in the park. Bad chest cold is now how it is in some people. The 80% have mild colds may or may not be accurate.


Here is a first person description from a healthy 25 year old. It does sound pretty much like a flu.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/First-British-victim-25-describes-coronavirus.html


Well that guy probably would have been better sooner if he didn't drink the whiskey every night. Alcohol lowers your immune system. Funny how he got worse the day after he drank the whiskey.
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Anonymous wrote:Officials would not comment on where overseas the patients had traveled,

That means Iran or China


Italy.


Won't cite for privacy reasons? Why not?
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