Susan Collins is in trouble

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Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

I'm so very sorry that you were accused of near rape, rape, and near murder. Glad you were able to effectively keep your cool.

That's not my point. My point is he lacks the demeanor for a lifetime SCOTUS appointment, the highest legal job possible. Because they were serious allegations he got to throw a tantrum and cry? Please. He could have made a far better case without the dramatics but he was playing to the base

DP. He wasn’t “playing” to anyone. Get back to us when you’re accused of attempted rape in front of the entire world - including your loved ones. Let’s see how helpless you feel and how calmly you actually behave.

He was supposed to be a Supreme Court justice nominee, not any old Joe. He flunked.

Clearly, not everyone agreed with you; consequently, he's now serving on the Supreme Court.

The Republicans abdicated their duty, would have nominated anyone who said he was conservative.

How proud of themselves they must be. We'll see if Collins survives her vote. That's the original topic of this thread.

Yes, a vote for Kavanaugh who's included in this discussion. And let's be honest, Democrats would have nominated a liberal. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:She stood on principle when she voted for Kavanaugh.

Read Justice on Trial.

What principle? SMH

The principle that one is always innocent until proven guilty - remember that one?

I only wish I lived in Maine so I could vote for her.
-DP

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That’s in the criminal justice system. Not necessarily for job interviews. Why is this so compliforcated for you people?

It's not complicated for me. It's the way I think we should approach any situation involving a person--whether rumors, interviews, school-related infractions of rules, possible crimes, etc. Won't be the same as a court of law, but give the benefit of the doubt. And definitely with a situation where the accuser can't provide key facts.

But the person's behavior during the job interview is immaterial to you, it seems. Somehow.

It's been repeated countless times, and the court of public opinion is clearly divided re his behavior. I'm one of the ones who thinks his response was justified. You and I will not be in agreement.

And oh so dignifed. How far we have fallen from what is dignified.

PP here. I don't expect people to respond "with dignity" when accused of rape, near rape, and almost murder without more evidence. I doubt I would either, and I'm viewed as a pretty mature, calm person.

Justice Stevens thought his responses and behavior at the hearings were enough to disqualify him.

I'll take Justice Stevens wisdom and knowledge about such things over yours any day. And I also would guess you'd never in a million years be qualified to sit on the Supreme Court, so your response to such inquiry is immaterial.

Justice Stevens had NO CLUE what he had been up against. He had no clue at the threats he and his family had received. He had no clue about the organized effort to defeat his nomination by leftist groups and Democrats. He just had no clue.

Do you think Kav was the first person to face such pushback? Do you think his family was the first one to receive threats? I don't think so. Def don't remember your syntax and concern on DCUM when this happened to our family. I just can't get worked up when this guy fomented similar antics in the early phases of his career. He may have gotten a seat on SCOTUS, but he'll never be free of the doubt his wife and daughters will always harbor about his conduct.

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Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

I'm so very sorry that you were accused of near rape, rape, and near murder. Glad you were able to effectively keep your cool.

sorry, but do you think he was the first public figure accused of such horrible conduct? Please. He couldn't even handle ONE hearing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

And, lucky for you, you are a lowly public defender. Your name is not out there nationally with false accusations of rape and attempted murder.
Do you and your family get death threats?

Do you not believe this was a well organized and well-funded attack?

MY GOD. KAVANAUGH ORGANIZED ATTACKS ON CLINTON, GORE, ETC. ARE YOU JUST SO OBTUSE? MY FAMILY LIVED THROUGH DEATH THREATS MULTIPLE TIMES. I DON'T REMEMBER COMING HERE AND READING YOUR HAND WRINGING. GET OVER IT!

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Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

I'm so very sorry that you were accused of near rape, rape, and near murder. Glad you were able to effectively keep your cool.

That's not my point. My point is he lacks the demeanor for a lifetime SCOTUS appointment, the highest legal job possible. Because they were serious allegations he got to throw a tantrum and cry? Please. He could have made a far better case without the dramatics but he was playing to the base

DP. He wasn’t “playing” to anyone. Get back to us when you’re accused of attempted rape in front of the entire world - including your loved ones. Let’s see how helpless you feel and how calmly you actually behave.

He was supposed to be a Supreme Court justice nominee, not any old Joe. He flunked.

Clearly, not everyone agreed with you; consequently, he's now serving on the Supreme Court.

51 senators. Who represent well under half the country. Impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

And, lucky for you, you are a lowly public defender. Your name is not out there nationally with false accusations of rape and attempted murder.
Do you and your family get death threats?

Do you not believe this was a well organized and well-funded attack?

MY GOD. KAVANAUGH ORGANIZED ATTACKS ON CLINTON, GORE, ETC. ARE YOU JUST SO OBTUSE? MY FAMILY LIVED THROUGH DEATH THREATS MULTIPLE TIMES. I DON'T REMEMBER COMING HERE AND READING YOUR HAND WRINGING. GET OVER IT!

Your caps lock key appears to be stuck.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.

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And, flake or not, there was zero evidence. Further, whatever evidence existed, it contradicted her story, like those supposed witnesses who couldn't remember a single thing she was talking about.

Dems tried to resurrect the Inquisition and it backfired. I'm pretty confident this is one of the things that will help the GOP retain the Senate in 2020, whatever happens in the WH.

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Completely agree. Susan Collins has more integrity in her little finger than all of the Democratic senators combined. I was so moved and inspired by her words re: why she voted to confirm Kavanaugh. That "hearing" was little more than a carefully planned optic on the Democrats' part to try and condemn a man based on ONE 35+ year old allegation with no evidence. It was absurd. Kavanaugh has had a sterling career as a judge - and mentor to many, who has hired more minority and female clerks than ANY other justice, ever. And Democrats were hoping that ONE unfounded allegation from his high school years would prevent him from being confirmed. So pathetic and I will never forget the spectacle they put him through.

I'd vote for Susan Collins in a heartbeat if she was running for president. If only.

Good for you. I'm a Mainer and I won't be voting for her and she has faced TONS of criticism up here.

In Q1 she only got donations from 11 Maine residents. Like her all you want but her road up here is steeply uphill.

I seriously doubt you're a "Mainer," but ok.

New / different poster here. I’m curious why you doubt this persons claim to be a ‘Mainer’. I’m also curious how you both define it.

-a real Mainer (who has voted for Collins in the past but never will again!!!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good riddance. Also, Kavanaugh's little partisan rant about a liberal conspiracy backed by the Clintons and how we will all be sorry was enough to disqualify him independent of the allegations.

I was a lowly public defender and my clients treated me like crap, judges frequently, too, and I never, ever lost my cool like that.

He is peak white male privilege and a man baby

And, lucky for you, you are a lowly public defender. Your name is not out there nationally with false accusations of rape and attempted murder.
Do you and your family get death threats?

Do you not believe this was a well organized and well-funded attack?

MY GOD. KAVANAUGH ORGANIZED ATTACKS ON CLINTON, GORE, ETC. ARE YOU JUST SO OBTUSE? MY FAMILY LIVED THROUGH DEATH THREATS MULTIPLE TIMES. I DON'T REMEMBER COMING HERE AND READING YOUR HAND WRINGING. GET OVER IT!

I’m sorry - are we supposed to somehow know who you are or what you’re talking about??
-DP

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She may not even run for another term!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-21/susan-collins-faces-re-election-as-standing-erodes-in-trump-era

Senator Susan Collins isn’t used to seeing her popularity under water in her home state, but that’s where the Maine Republican finds herself as she decides whether to run for a fifth term next year.

Collins, 66, says she’s focused on preparing for a re-election bid but won’t decide until the early fall whether she’ll run. Her decision will shape the 2020 fight for the Senate, where she’s part of a shrinking group of lawmakers still eager to tout their record of bipartisan cooperation.

“The divisiveness of our country and the unceasing attacks by dark money groups in Maine have clearly had an impact,” Collins said in an interview at the Capitol. “But I believe that once Mainers really focus on the race and we remind them of my being the No. 1 most bipartisan member of the Senate, and all the accomplishments that I can point to that have directly benefited the state, I’ll be fine.”

The Donald Trump era has been hard on Collins. Her votes for the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court and against the president’s effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act have her drawing fire from both parties.

thoughts and prayers - so many thoughts and prayers

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So the answer to the question of whether Collins would survive her Kavanaugh vote is ... looking less likely.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.

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And, flake or not, there was zero evidence. Further, whatever evidence existed, it contradicted her story, like those supposed witnesses who couldn't remember a single thing she was talking about.

Dems tried to resurrect the Inquisition and it backfired. I'm pretty confident this is one of the things that will help the GOP retain the Senate in 2020, whatever happens in the WH.

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Completely agree. Susan Collins has more integrity in her little finger than all of the Democratic senators combined. I was so moved and inspired by her words re: why she voted to confirm Kavanaugh. That "hearing" was little more than a carefully planned optic on the Democrats' part to try and condemn a man based on ONE 35+ year old allegation with no evidence. It was absurd. Kavanaugh has had a sterling career as a judge - and mentor to many, who has hired more minority and female clerks than ANY other justice, ever. And Democrats were hoping that ONE unfounded allegation from his high school years would prevent him from being confirmed. So pathetic and I will never forget the spectacle they put him through.

I'd vote for Susan Collins in a heartbeat if she was running for president. If only.

Good for you. I'm a Mainer and I won't be voting for her and she has faced TONS of criticism up here.

In Q1 she only got donations from 11 Maine residents. Like her all you want but her road up here is steeply uphill.

I seriously doubt you're a "Mainer," but ok.

I live in 04107. Not sure Jeff could confirm as I'm VPN-ed in to a different network right now but I'd be happy to post from my home wifi and get his confirmation if that would appease you.

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Jeff can you tell them im in Maine? Not sure if my past history references that many other Maine stuff but I post somewhat regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff can you tell them im in Maine? Not sure if my past history references that many other Maine stuff but I post somewhat regularly.

I can't tell for sure, but based on the IP address of this post, there is a pretty good chance you are from Maine. It's funny that the earlier poster who is apparently not from Maine considers him/herself able to identify who is and who isn't from Maine via forum posts.

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Anonymous wrote:She stood on principle when she voted for Kavanaugh.

Read Justice on Trial.

Excellent book. C-SPAN2 is now discussing it.

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Anonymous wrote:She stood on principle when she voted for Kavanaugh.

Read Justice on Trial.

Excellent book. C-SPAN2 is now discussing it.

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