Should the admissions process be colorblind?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I guess your white hood is showing through. Run along now...I imagine that you're late for your Klan meeting.


You dont have any problem hurling words around which are incendiary and hurtful and when youre called on it, using your own rationalization, your first and only response is to cry RACISM.

You certainly can't have children in a TT private. At least I hope not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No it is not. That is your reaction. No one is baited, but you. Only you make those references. A holocaust is an apt description for slavery, the slave trade and what happened for centuries to people of the African race around the globe.


And "negro" is a word meaning "having black ancestors".

And "colored" is another variation on the term "of color".

And "bastard" is a child born out of wedlock.

Those are the proper definitions.

So, you certainly won't have any objection to calling a child a "colored bastard" huh?

If you do object, then it must be "your reaction". No one is baiting you, just posting words that are an apt description according to the dictionary.

What color are you referencing. I know bastards in varied colors. There was the Black one. The White one. The brown one. What color is you bastard?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No it is not. That is your reaction. No one is baited, but you. Only you make those references. A holocaust is an apt description for slavery, the slave trade and what happened for centuries to people of the African race around the globe.


And "negro" is a word meaning "having black ancestors".

And "colored" is another variation on the term "of color".

And "bastard" is a child born out of wedlock.

Those are the proper definitions.

So, you certainly won't have any objection to calling a child a "colored bastard" huh?

If you do object, then it must be "your reaction". No one is baiting you, just posting words that are an apt description according to the dictionary.

What color are you referencing. I know bastards in varied colors. There was the Black one. The White one. The brown one. What color is you bastard?


I wasnt referring to any color. I was making a point using your own logic, only you are too stupid to realize it.
Anonymous
And "negro" is a word meaning "having black ancestors".

And "colored" is another variation on the term "of color".

And "bastard" is a child born out of wedlock.

Those are the proper definitions.

So, you certainly won't have any objection to calling a child a "colored bastard" huh?

If you do object, then it must be "your reaction". No one is baiting you, just posting words that are an apt description according to the dictionary.
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I frankly don't have a problem with your dictionary abstractions. Why do you think I would object to your language? I bet you are the paranoid woman with auditory and visual hallucinations? I have no objections. And I have not accused you of baiting me. Now, what is your next scene?

Anonymous
The Columbia Encyclopedia defines "Holocaust" as "name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany".[18] The Compact Oxford English Dictionary[19] and Microsoft Encarta[20] give similar definitions. The Encyclopaedia Britannica defines "Holocaust" as "the systematic state-sponsored killing of six million Jewish men, women, and children and millions of others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II".[1]

Sensitivity must only be practiced by whites in your world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You certainly can't have children in a TT private.


Finally a moment of humor amid all the bashing.
Anonymous
I am the poster that asked for the explanation and I read item 7 and a little more of the Alan Dershowitz piece. So let me get this straight. Just because fringe and radical group of African-Americans have used the word holocaust in an offensive way and deny that the holocaust every happened, any time a black person uses the word holocaust it is race baiting and offensive?

That's just craziness and I am off this thread for good.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you please explain in an unemotional way how using the word holocaust in the context of the slave trade (or any other historical event) is offensive?

Not trying to argue any point, just really curious to hear the reason.



It is the application of the word "Holocaust" to the slave trade which is offensive.

Please read the following items, it explains things better than I could here:

First, a book by Alan Dershowitz:

http://tinyurl.com/y9pmofk

(scroll up to item 7 and continue reading please.)


and here is a snippet of an ADL letter to Rep Grayson regarding his coopting the word "Holocaust" in the health care debate.

"No matter how dire one's objections to health care or any other policy, invoking the Holocaust, the Nazi effort to exterminate the Jewish people, is offensive and has no place in a civil political discourse. We are aware that last night on the Rachel Maddow show you stated that referencing the Holocaust "may not have been the best choice of words." But it is worse than a poor choice of words. Using the Holocaust as an analogy for flaws in the current health care ystem is inappropriate and serves only to trivialize the murder of six million Jews and millions of others. Suggesting an equivalence between government inaction or a policy failure and the Holocaust demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of this unique tragedy in human history and is an affront to Holocaust survivors and to the memory of its victims.

We respect your right to engage in vigorous debate about the current health care system. However, we urge you to retract your statements and reject such odious comparisons in the future..."

There is a history of Blacks in the US using the term "Holocaust" to be purposefully incindiary and hateful (see "jew baiting") -

I hope that begins to explain the objections.


Anonymous
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Maafa (also known as the African Holocaust or Holocaust of Enslavement) is a word derived from the Swahili term for disaster, terrible occurrence or great tragedy.[1][2] The term refers to the 500 years of suffering of Africans and the African diaspora, through slavery, imperialism, colonialism, invasion, oppression, dehumanization and exploitation.[2][3] The term also refers to the social and academic policies that were used to invalidate or appropriate the contributions of African peoples to humanity as a whole,[2] and the residual effects of this persecution, as manifest in contemporary society.[4]

While Maafa can be considered an area of study within African history in which both the actual history and the legacy of that history are studied as a single discourse, it can also be taken as its own significant event in the course of global or world history.[5] When studied as African history, the paradigm emphasizes the legacy of the African Holocaust on African peoples globally. The emphasis in the historical narrative is on African agents, in opposition to what is perceived to be the conventional Eurocentric voice; for this reason Maafa is an aspect of Pan-Africanism.

Usage of the term Maafa to describe this period of persecution was popularized by Professor Marimba Ani's 1994 book Let the Circle Be Unbroken: The Implications of African Spirituality in the Diaspora.[6][7][8][9]
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* 1 Beyond slavery
* 2 Curse of Ham
* 3 Slavery in Africa
* 4 European slave trade
* 5 Arab slave trade
o 5.1 Legacy of Arab enslavement of Africans
* 6 Scale
* 7 Effects
* 8 Economics of slavery
* 9 Colonialism and the European scramble for Africa
* 10 Persecution of Africans after slavery
* 11 Academic legacy of the African holocaust
* 12 Questions of terminology
* 13 Further reading
* 14 References
* 15 External links


Anonymous
It appears that scholars and others have aptly described 500 years of slavery and the slave trade as a holocaust for Africans around the globe.

Thanks for posting.
Anonymous
Maafa (also known as the African Holocaust or Holocaust of Enslavement) is a word derived from the Swahili term for disaster, terrible occurrence or great tragedy.[1][2] The term refers to the 500 years of suffering of Africans and the African diaspora, through slavery, imperialism, colonialism, invasion, oppression, dehumanization and exploitation.[2][3] The term also refers to the social and academic policies that were used to invalidate or appropriate the contributions of African peoples to humanity as a whole,[2] and the residual effects of this persecution, as manifest in contemporary society.[4]

While Maafa can be considered an area of study within African history in which both the actual history and the legacy of that history are studied as a single discourse, it can also be taken as its own significant event in the course of global or world history.[5] When studied as African history, the paradigm emphasizes the legacy of the African Holocaust on African peoples globally. The emphasis in the historical narrative is on African agents, in opposition to what is perceived to be the conventional Eurocentric voice; for this reason Maafa is an aspect of Pan-Africanism.

Usage of the term Maafa to describe this period of persecution was popularized by Professor Marimba Ani's 1994 book Let the Circle Be Unbroken: The Implications of African Spirituality in the Diaspora.[6][7][8][9]




Anonymous
Maafa (also known as the African Holocaust or Holocaust of Enslavement) is a word derived from the Swahili term for disaster, terrible occurrence or great tragedy.[1][2] The term refers to the 500 years of suffering of Africans and the African diaspora, through slavery, imperialism, colonialism, invasion, oppression, dehumanization and exploitation.[2][3] The term also refers to the social and academic policies that were used to invalidate or appropriate the contributions of African peoples to humanity as a whole,[2] and the residual effects of this persecution, as manifest in contemporary society.[4]

While Maafa can be considered an area of study within African history in which both the actual history and the legacy of that history are studied as a single discourse, it can also be taken as its own significant event in the course of global or world history.[5] When studied as African history, the paradigm emphasizes the legacy of the African Holocaust on African peoples globally. The emphasis in the historical narrative is on African agents, in opposition to what is perceived to be the conventional Eurocentric voice; for this reason Maafa is an aspect of Pan-Africanism.

Usage of the term Maafa to describe this period of persecution was popularized by Professor Marimba Ani's 1994 book Let the Circle Be Unbroken: The Implications of African Spirituality in the Diaspora.[6][7][8][9]




Anonymous
From online encyclopedia/dictionary:

Etymology and usage of the term

The word holocaust originally derived from the Greek word holokauston, meaning "a completely (holos) burnt (kaustos) sacrificial offering", or "a burnt sacrifice offered to God". In Greek and Roman pagan rites, Gods of the earth and underworld received dark animals, which were offered by night and burnt in full. Holocaust was later used to refer to a sacrifice Jews were required to make by the Torah. But since the mid nineteenth century the word has been used by a large variety of authors to reference large catastrophes and massacres.
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I frankly do not think usage of this term to describe 500 years of slavery for Africans was Jew baiting. Ironically, Jew baiting was the strategy employed by some posters who lurched in their primative and primordial custom and practise with screams of racism and anti-Semiteism...reminiscent of the lynching mob mentality in the days of slavery.
Anonymous
This conversation is not surprising.

The ADL conducted a survey in 2005 and found that an astounding 35% of African Americans were identified as "stongly anti-Semitic". This is more than 100% than that of the population as a whole.
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