Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major

[Anonymous]

Not reach her full potential?
Are you serious, OP?

Do you really think that she is going to make some great contribution to society? LOL

Yeah, I'm sure all those investment bankers and economists are just saving tons of lives hahaha

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, how did things go with this? Did you talk?

To the poster who said they are letting their child take out loans and will only pay for courses with As and Bs, I think that's fantastic

I'll do the same thing

Ivy merit scholarships do the same thing : 3.5 gpa each yr or it’s pulled.

There is no such thing as meri scholarships at Ivy League schools.

[Anonymous]

Quite simply OP, you can't live someone else's life. Let her be her and you be you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the comments here are disheartening. College should be where students discover the options available to them and broaden their horizons. I understand that most see it now as vocational training and so I guess OP and most of you are aligned in your thinking. OP's kid seems like she is searching for where her passion is and is seeing it as being teaching. While I am amazed where the teachers at my DD's high priced private went to school/where their (sometimes multiple) degrees are from - I am also amazed at how happy and well rounded so many are.

Being a parent and choosing to pay for college (which I certainly will do) I believe means giving your child the freedom to continue their education, make choices that they feel reflect their goals. IF you only want to pay for college that seem destined for a job at least own that you are paying for job training so your kids know what your goals and expectations are for the money

Your comment makes sense if college was free or very cheap. In fact, if Universal income was in place, and college was free, I'd still be in college at 50. At 70K/year, one year of private school is about a year of retirement expense for the average couple (more elsewhere in the US). Assuming an average family of 2 kids and 8 years of college that's 8 years of retirement for a private school and maybe 4 for in-state public schools.

Are you willing to sacrifice 4 years of your life for your adult children to "broaden their horizons" without a purpose? If so, go ahead.

In the meantime, most colleges are laughing all the way to the bank.. Their student-to-employee ratio is about 2:1 (not student to faculty), their salaries are through the roof (google salaries at your public university), and they all claim to be non-profit while profiting off your fears and childish indoctrinations. In other countries (including your European home world) kids enter college knowing exactly what they want to do, and guess what, they all lead happy, productive lives after college.

New Poster. The way I look at it is, we only get one life. Consequently, it's the journey that matters most, not the destination because you can never truly "arrive" at your destination until you die. With that in mind, the only way to live a happy life that makes sense to me is to try to live in the moment as much as possible and take it day by day. When it comes to education, you're best served by studying whatever you find most intrinsically interesting. The rest will follow one way or another.

We've been saving all along for our children's educations and will be able to pay for it when the time comes plus whatever graduate schooling they may desire. What have we been saving this money for if not to give them the gift of going to the best school they can get into and studying whatever they find interesting? I don't really care whatever careers they take on as long as they're engaged and happy and productive. I am impressed by teachers myself, I couldn't do it.

Don't think of if as just your life. Think of the future. A 1000 years from now, do you want your line to continue? If so, your child should aim higher.

Here's an interesting article that says we are all descended from royalty. What happened to the descendants of non-royalty? They all petered out and disappeared. Forever. The nobodys of today will have no descendants left in a 1000 years.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty

"One fifth of people alive a millennium ago in Europe are the ancestors of no one alive today. Their lines of descent petered out at some point, when they or one of their progeny did not leave any of their own. "

[Anonymous]

I don't see why the daughter has to go into elementary teaching now. Why can't she go into something higher paying first and then see if she still wants to go into teaching?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to do yes, but you are qualified to do it as a rocket scientist

Says a person who never took a horrible class from someone with a Ph.D.

Teaching is a completely different art than knowing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the comments here are disheartening. College should be where students discover the options available to them and broaden their horizons. I understand that most see it now as vocational training and so I guess OP and most of you are aligned in your thinking. OP's kid seems like she is searching for where her passion is and is seeing it as being teaching. While I am amazed where the teachers at my DD's high priced private went to school/where their (sometimes multiple) degrees are from - I am also amazed at how happy and well rounded so many are.

Being a parent and choosing to pay for college (which I certainly will do) I believe means giving your child the freedom to continue their education, make choices that they feel reflect their goals. IF you only want to pay for college that seem destined for a job at least own that you are paying for job training so your kids know what your goals and expectations are for the money

Your comment makes sense if college was free or very cheap. In fact, if Universal income was in place, and college was free, I'd still be in college at 50. At 70K/year, one year of private school is about a year of retirement expense for the average couple (more elsewhere in the US). Assuming an average family of 2 kids and 8 years of college that's 8 years of retirement for a private school and maybe 4 for in-state public schools.

Are you willing to sacrifice 4 years of your life for your adult children to "broaden their horizons" without a purpose? If so, go ahead.

In the meantime, most colleges are laughing all the way to the bank.. Their student-to-employee ratio is about 2:1 (not student to faculty), their salaries are through the roof (google salaries at your public university), and they all claim to be non-profit while profiting off your fears and childish indoctrinations. In other countries (including your European home world) kids enter college knowing exactly what they want to do, and guess what, they all lead happy, productive lives after college.

New Poster. The way I look at it is, we only get one life. Consequently, it's the journey that matters most, not the destination because you can never truly "arrive" at your destination until you die. With that in mind, the only way to live a happy life that makes sense to me is to try to live in the moment as much as possible and take it day by day. When it comes to education, you're best served by studying whatever you find most intrinsically interesting. The rest will follow one way or another.

We've been saving all along for our children's educations and will be able to pay for it when the time comes plus whatever graduate schooling they may desire. What have we been saving this money for if not to give them the gift of going to the best school they can get into and studying whatever they find interesting? I don't really care whatever careers they take on as long as they're engaged and happy and productive. I am impressed by teachers myself, I couldn't do it.

Don't think of if as just your life. Think of the future. A 1000 years from now, do you want your line to continue? If so, your child should aim higher.

Here's an interesting article that says we are all descended from royalty. What happened to the descendants of non-royalty? They all petered out and disappeared. Forever. The nobodys of today will have no descendants left in a 1000 years.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty

"One fifth of people alive a millennium ago in Europe are the ancestors of no one alive today. Their lines of descent petered out at some point, when they or one of their progeny did not leave any of their own. "

That's a truly bizarre line of thinking. You can't control the future and you won't even be around in 1000 years to know that your "line" continued. In 1000 years your "line" would barely be carrying any of your genes anyway - there would be many others who contributed genes to your descendants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She can follow the path of other elite college grades and do Teach for America for a few years to get the bug out of her system. She can still go to business/law school after that and write a compelling essay about teaching in the inner city.

100% this.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so disheartening.

Who do you people want teaching your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the comments here are disheartening. College should be where students discover the options available to them and broaden their horizons. I understand that most see it now as vocational training and so I guess OP and most of you are aligned in your thinking. OP's kid seems like she is searching for where her passion is and is seeing it as being teaching. While I am amazed where the teachers at my DD's high priced private went to school/where their (sometimes multiple) degrees are from - I am also amazed at how happy and well rounded so many are.

Being a parent and choosing to pay for college (which I certainly will do) I believe means giving your child the freedom to continue their education, make choices that they feel reflect their goals. IF you only want to pay for college that seem destined for a job at least own that you are paying for job training so your kids know what your goals and expectations are for the money

Your comment makes sense if college was free or very cheap. In fact, if Universal income was in place, and college was free, I'd still be in college at 50. At 70K/year, one year of private school is about a year of retirement expense for the average couple (more elsewhere in the US). Assuming an average family of 2 kids and 8 years of college that's 8 years of retirement for a private school and maybe 4 for in-state public schools.

Are you willing to sacrifice 4 years of your life for your adult children to "broaden their horizons" without a purpose? If so, go ahead.

In the meantime, most colleges are laughing all the way to the bank.. Their student-to-employee ratio is about 2:1 (not student to faculty), their salaries are through the roof (google salaries at your public university), and they all claim to be non-profit while profiting off your fears and childish indoctrinations. In other countries (including your European home world) kids enter college knowing exactly what they want to do, and guess what, they all lead happy, productive lives after college.

New Poster. The way I look at it is, we only get one life. Consequently, it's the journey that matters most, not the destination because you can never truly "arrive" at your destination until you die. With that in mind, the only way to live a happy life that makes sense to me is to try to live in the moment as much as possible and take it day by day. When it comes to education, you're best served by studying whatever you find most intrinsically interesting. The rest will follow one way or another.

We've been saving all along for our children's educations and will be able to pay for it when the time comes plus whatever graduate schooling they may desire. What have we been saving this money for if not to give them the gift of going to the best school they can get into and studying whatever they find interesting? I don't really care whatever careers they take on as long as they're engaged and happy and productive. I am impressed by teachers myself, I couldn't do it.

Don't think of if as just your life. Think of the future. A 1000 years from now, do you want your line to continue? If so, your child should aim higher.

Here's an interesting article that says we are all descended from royalty. What happened to the descendants of non-royalty? They all petered out and disappeared. Forever. The nobodys of today will have no descendants left in a 1000 years.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty

"One fifth of people alive a millennium ago in Europe are the ancestors of no one alive today. Their lines of descent petered out at some point, when they or one of their progeny did not leave any of their own. "

So... 20% of people 1000 years ago have no descendants today. Which means 80% do. That's actually a lot. And we're all related to royalty somehow because all 7 billion of us are descended from the 200 million who were on Earth then, and that's just how math works. You misread that article if you think it said that only the elite survive. We are all descended from thousands of generations of regular people.

Also, if this is your bizarre theory of life success, how many children are you planning on having? Because clearly if you're trying to maximize descendants you need to maximize kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the comments here are disheartening. College should be where students discover the options available to them and broaden their horizons. I understand that most see it now as vocational training and so I guess OP and most of you are aligned in your thinking. OP's kid seems like she is searching for where her passion is and is seeing it as being teaching. While I am amazed where the teachers at my DD's high priced private went to school/where their (sometimes multiple) degrees are from - I am also amazed at how happy and well rounded so many are.

Being a parent and choosing to pay for college (which I certainly will do) I believe means giving your child the freedom to continue their education, make choices that they feel reflect their goals. IF you only want to pay for college that seem destined for a job at least own that you are paying for job training so your kids know what your goals and expectations are for the money

Your comment makes sense if college was free or very cheap. In fact, if Universal income was in place, and college was free, I'd still be in college at 50. At 70K/year, one year of private school is about a year of retirement expense for the average couple (more elsewhere in the US). Assuming an average family of 2 kids and 8 years of college that's 8 years of retirement for a private school and maybe 4 for in-state public schools.

Are you willing to sacrifice 4 years of your life for your adult children to "broaden their horizons" without a purpose? If so, go ahead.

In the meantime, most colleges are laughing all the way to the bank.. Their student-to-employee ratio is about 2:1 (not student to faculty), their salaries are through the roof (google salaries at your public university), and they all claim to be non-profit while profiting off your fears and childish indoctrinations. In other countries (including your European home world) kids enter college knowing exactly what they want to do, and guess what, they all lead happy, productive lives after college.

New Poster. The way I look at it is, we only get one life. Consequently, it's the journey that matters most, not the destination because you can never truly "arrive" at your destination until you die. With that in mind, the only way to live a happy life that makes sense to me is to try to live in the moment as much as possible and take it day by day. When it comes to education, you're best served by studying whatever you find most intrinsically interesting. The rest will follow one way or another.

We've been saving all along for our children's educations and will be able to pay for it when the time comes plus whatever graduate schooling they may desire. What have we been saving this money for if not to give them the gift of going to the best school they can get into and studying whatever they find interesting? I don't really care whatever careers they take on as long as they're engaged and happy and productive. I am impressed by teachers myself, I couldn't do it.

Don't think of if as just your life. Think of the future. A 1000 years from now, do you want your line to continue? If so, your child should aim higher.

Here's an interesting article that says we are all descended from royalty. What happened to the descendants of non-royalty? They all petered out and disappeared. Forever. The nobodys of today will have no descendants left in a 1000 years.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty

"One fifth of people alive a millennium ago in Europe are the ancestors of no one alive today. Their lines of descent petered out at some point, when they or one of their progeny did not leave any of their own. "

Genes don't care. Why should you? Live your own life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the comments here are disheartening. College should be where students discover the options available to them and broaden their horizons. I understand that most see it now as vocational training and so I guess OP and most of you are aligned in your thinking. OP's kid seems like she is searching for where her passion is and is seeing it as being teaching. While I am amazed where the teachers at my DD's high priced private went to school/where their (sometimes multiple) degrees are from - I am also amazed at how happy and well rounded so many are.

Being a parent and choosing to pay for college (which I certainly will do) I believe means giving your child the freedom to continue their education, make choices that they feel reflect their goals. IF you only want to pay for college that seem destined for a job at least own that you are paying for job training so your kids know what your goals and expectations are for the money

Your comment makes sense if college was free or very cheap. In fact, if Universal income was in place, and college was free, I'd still be in college at 50. At 70K/year, one year of private school is about a year of retirement expense for the average couple (more elsewhere in the US). Assuming an average family of 2 kids and 8 years of college that's 8 years of retirement for a private school and maybe 4 for in-state public schools.

Are you willing to sacrifice 4 years of your life for your adult children to "broaden their horizons" without a purpose? If so, go ahead.

In the meantime, most colleges are laughing all the way to the bank.. Their student-to-employee ratio is about 2:1 (not student to faculty), their salaries are through the roof (google salaries at your public university), and they all claim to be non-profit while profiting off your fears and childish indoctrinations. In other countries (including your European home world) kids enter college knowing exactly what they want to do, and guess what, they all lead happy, productive lives after college.

New Poster. The way I look at it is, we only get one life. Consequently, it's the journey that matters most, not the destination because you can never truly "arrive" at your destination until you die. With that in mind, the only way to live a happy life that makes sense to me is to try to live in the moment as much as possible and take it day by day. When it comes to education, you're best served by studying whatever you find most intrinsically interesting. The rest will follow one way or another.

We've been saving all along for our children's educations and will be able to pay for it when the time comes plus whatever graduate schooling they may desire. What have we been saving this money for if not to give them the gift of going to the best school they can get into and studying whatever they find interesting? I don't really care whatever careers they take on as long as they're engaged and happy and productive. I am impressed by teachers myself, I couldn't do it.

Don't think of if as just your life. Think of the future. A 1000 years from now, do you want your line to continue? If so, your child should aim higher.

Here's an interesting article that says we are all descended from royalty. What happened to the descendants of non-royalty? They all petered out and disappeared. Forever. The nobodys of today will have no descendants left in a 1000 years.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty

"One fifth of people alive a millennium ago in Europe are the ancestors of no one alive today. Their lines of descent petered out at some point, when they or one of their progeny did not leave any of their own. "

So... 20% of people 1000 years ago have no descendants today. Which means 80% do. That's actually a lot. And we're all related to royalty somehow because all 7 billion of us are descended from the 200 million who were on Earth then, and that's just how math works. You misread that article if you think it said that only the elite survive. We are all descended from thousands of generations of regular people.

Also, if this is your bizarre theory of life success, how many children are you planning on having? Because clearly if you're trying to maximize descendants you need to maximize kids.

First, is-ought problem. Can't go from is how genes are, so this is how you ought to be.
Secondly, genes don't care whether it is selected for or against. It's gonna be what it is. Any take away is genes don't care; neither should you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so disheartening.

Who do you people want teaching your kids?

+1 Just think of how much better our education system would be if we hired teachers who were the cream of the crop. We still have so much to learn from countries that get this right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so disheartening.

Who do you people want teaching your kids?

+1 Just think of how much better our education system would be if we hired teachers who were the cream of the crop. We still have so much to learn from countries that get this right.

In Greek city state, it was their equivalents of our Ph.Ds who taught their young. Socrates taught Plato. Aristotle taught Alexander the Great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll not join in the piling on

In my opinion, OP is correct

It's very important for her DD to not close doors at this stage in her life

If she majored in math and econ she could teach 5th grade math

The reverse will not be true if she picks the easy major

Really try to help her understand the concept that you don't always understand the value of your studies until later in life when you realize how many doors it opens

+1