VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

I’m not clear what you are saying about loudon at arlington sporting away. Can you clarify?

probably referring to their choices to continue with club champions league (versus da or ecnl).
bryc left champions league and bet on ecnl.
loudoun refers its best players over to join fcv girls da, or can encourage them to stay in loudoun with champions league.
arlington does champions league only on girls side.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blackandredunited.com/platform/amp/youth-development/2017/2/6/14526454/washington-spirit-girls-development-academy-bryc-loudoun-arlington-soccer-nwsl

And that was pretty short sighted of ___________ [fill in the blank] too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

If I understand this correctly, the U13 girls DA pilot for our region will be different and more age-appropriate, and I use that last term loosely. Things change quickly in a year. BSC and the other clubs didn't see U13 DA happening this quickly in the Mid-Atlantic, so a year old survey from parents may not be that indicative of what a top '06 player will want to try. U13 will only have 3 practices a week instead of 4, no outside bans I believe, and relaxed subbing rules so that they can mirror what ECNL has been offering in play time. If DA can get these girls in the pipeline early, then chances are they may stay around for the more-restrictive U14 fare. A big plus is that in this region, none of the '06s will have to ride the pine on a U14 DA team next year with the '05s. This seems to be very good news for any '06 on a top team at BSC or elsewhere. Eventually the rest of the country will go to single age groups at U13 and U14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

+1
The USGDA has already won out West and that drives everything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

Exactly, GDA was never about the hearts and minds of current Juniors and Seniors. The battle will be won with the crop of 06, 07 and 08 players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

Exactly, GDA was never about the hearts and minds of current Juniors and Seniors. The battle will be won with the crop of 06, 07 and 08 players.

Or even the current 04 and 05 players once parents begin comparing the lists of college coaches attending GDA showcases v ECNL events v (yawn) USYS events like the National League stuff, which seems to be the only place left for clubs outside of the DA and ECNL structure to go to try to get a look from college coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

Exactly, GDA was never about the hearts and minds of current Juniors and Seniors. The battle will be won with the crop of 06, 07 and 08 players.

Or even the current 04 and 05 players once parents begin comparing the lists of college coaches attending GDA showcases v ECNL events v (yawn) USYS events like the National League stuff, which seems to be the only place left for clubs outside of the DA and ECNL structure to go to try to get a look from college coaches.

04 attrition to GDA is probably about 50/50. I think 05 will be closer to 60/40 in favor of GDA. By 08/09 GDA will have between 80/20 - 70/30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BSC, Mclean, all of them. USSF don't? play that dual-club tune in the DMV.

Could be worse @ Loudoun or Arlington sporting away in U13 CCL next season.

Ask your DOC why USSF is not "circulating" this:

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/mzlyw0ld7v1c0wkbojo8o7m5bfy54c69

BSC polled the membership and the overwhelming majority of members wanted to play high school, and were interested primarily in College recruiting, over national/international/professional play. Thus, the decision to stick with ECNL

That was pretty short sighted of Bethesda

I guess we will see whether Bethesda can continue to attract great players to play in the ECNL. I doubt they'll lose player #s overall. As indicated by the survey, most of the actual BSC members aren't looking beyond college and didn't want to trade the high school soccer team experience for the DA.

That’s current players who have been in the old system for years. I think it will change as the system shakes out. There will be a few holdouts in the ECNL who will be able to draw the top players(mainly urban areas), but nation wide the DA will win out. The few holdouts will be excluded from the tournaments and find it harder and harder find quality opponents to play(ie a lot more travel). This will drive the cost up. The college coaches will follow the DA. It’s just a matter of time.

Exactly, GDA was never about the hearts and minds of current Juniors and Seniors. The battle will be won with the crop of 06, 07 and 08 players.

Or even the current 04 and 05 players once parents begin comparing the lists of college coaches attending GDA showcases v ECNL events v (yawn) USYS events like the National League stuff, which seems to be the only place left for clubs outside of the DA and ECNL structure to go to try to get a look from college coaches.

Aren't you forgetting the CCL College Showcase?!!!!

Doh! . . . ;---)

[Anonymous]

News to me reading this thread that GDA is going to take 06s next year. I'm not a top team parent, but how do those parents find out. It is not in the interest of the non-DA clubs to tell them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re DAs or ECNL for stellar girls players -- there really is a location component to all of this. BRYC and Mclean are close to the beltway. Right now, Spirit VA DA is in Reston area. Spirit MD DA is in Boyds and Baltimore for practices? VDA is in Woodbridge and Gainesville? and FCV is in Ashburn. And then there's Arlington inside the beltway.

So there's some kind of drive time plus competitiveness plus player's college/beyond college soccer goals plus wanting to play high school plus family time commitment that probably will get factored in, in addition to out of pocket costs. Those will all distort the talent sort.

All of the above are factors for us. With multiple active kids at home we just can't commit to ECNL or PA. I know the cost of the WS MD is $5000 with practices spread between Boyds and Baltimore is not a serious option for us. The other DAs are just too much of a logistical nightmare to consider. ECNL is a strong option but the best teams are now outside of ECNL for many age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Re DAs or ECNL for stellar girls players -- there really is a location component to all of this. BRYC and Mclean are close to the beltway. Right now, Spirit VA DA is in Reston area. Spirit MD DA is in Boyds and Baltimore for practices? VDA is in Woodbridge and Gainesville? and FCV is in Ashburn. And then there's Arlington inside the beltway.

So there's some kind of drive time plus competitiveness plus player's college/beyond college soccer goals plus wanting to play high school plus family time commitment that probably will get factored in, in addition to out of pocket costs. Those will all distort the talent sort.

All of the above are factors for us. With multiple active kids at home we just can't commit to ECNL or PA. I know the cost of the WS MD is $5000 with practices spread between Boyds and Baltimore is not a serious option for us. The other DAs are just too much of a logistical nightmare to consider. ECNL is a strong option but the best teams are now outside of ECNL for many age groups.

Logistics always play a huge role. It was a concern for us as well but it worked out with carpools. Sometimes just take a chance and things work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:News to me reading this thread that GDA is going to take 06s next year. I'm not a top team parent, but how do those parents find out. It is not in the interest of the non-DA clubs to tell them.

Hey, that is a qood question. If you are at McLean Soccer they are not going to tell you anything. They want players to try out for the ECNL later in Spring, not GDA. I bet it is the same at Bethesda.

There was this birth year switch 2 or 3 years ago and we were like the last to find out anything even though nearby clubs had websites about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News to me reading this thread that GDA is going to take 06s next year. I'm not a top team parent, but how do those parents find out. It is not in the interest of the non-DA clubs to tell them.

Hey, that is a qood question. If you are at McLean Soccer they are not going to tell you anything. They want players to try out for the ECNL later in Spring, not GDA. I bet it is the same at Bethesda.

There was this birth year switch 2 or 3 years ago and we were like the last to find out anything even though nearby clubs had websites about it.

This is something parents need to seek out for themselves. Forums like this are certainly an avenue for that. But no, generally clubs do not advertise other clubs tryouts and to expect that they would is naive.