What's so bad about living in sin?

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So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For you marriage does that. My relationship is as strong, as official and as important as your marriage.
We don't need marriage to attain an increased commitment level.

But I don't recognize your non marriage as official, or as important as mine. Sorry. That's reserved for married people.

Good think your opinion doesn't matter. And visa versa.

Live how you want. I will do that same.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you were asserting that others had to go along with you and acknowledge that your non marriage is "as strong, as official and as important" as a marriage.

The PP you're quoting didn't write what you are responding to. I did.
I don't need anyone to acknowledge my relationship. To me, it is as important and real as your marriage.

[Anonymous]

I love knowing that my boyfriend is with me because he chooses to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I love knowing that my boyfriend is with me because he chooses to be.

Too bad, according to many here, that your commitment is not real unless you go in front of God (LOL).

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You will be damned to hell for eternity?

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Anonymous wrote:You will be damned to hell for eternity?

People still believe in the whole heaven and hell thing?

[Anonymous]

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So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For you marriage does that. My relationship is as strong, as official and as important as your marriage.
We don't need marriage to attain an increased commitment level.

But I don't recognize your non marriage as official, or as important as mine. Sorry. That's reserved for married people.

I really don't care if you do! I view your marriage as sad and unnecessary.

Why is marriage "sad"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For me that is a horse/pony show. Do you really need all that to love someone? At that moment does something change after having a wedding? No.

It is nothing more than tradition and religious based. That is what we have been taught from early on. Good thing I can look beyond the nonsense and realize what is truly important in a relationship.

It's not nonsense. It gives you the strength not to give up when things get hard, and gives you public support right from the get go. Marriage is about much more than romantic love, it's the joining of two families.

I get that from not being married. All of our friends and family give us support and acknowledge our relationship.
Why do you need approval?

I want approval from my family and his.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For you marriage does that. My relationship is as strong, as official and as important as your marriage.
We don't need marriage to attain an increased commitment level.

But I don't recognize your non marriage as official, or as important as mine. Sorry. That's reserved for married people.

I really don't care if you do! I view your marriage as sad and unnecessary.

Why is marriage "sad"?

I don't view all marriage as sad. I view marriage to her as sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For me that is a horse/pony show. Do you really need all that to love someone? At that moment does something change after having a wedding? No.

It is nothing more than tradition and religious based. That is what we have been taught from early on. Good thing I can look beyond the nonsense and realize what is truly important in a relationship.

It's not nonsense. It gives you the strength not to give up when things get hard, and gives you public support right from the get go. Marriage is about much more than romantic love, it's the joining of two families.

I get that from not being married. All of our friends and family give us support and acknowledge our relationship.
Why do you need approval?

I want approval from my family and his.

It sucks that they won't give you approval without marriage. Our families give us approval because they know we make each other happy.

[Anonymous]

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It's not nonsense. It gives you the strength not to give up when things get hard, and gives you public support right from the get go. Marriage is about much more than romantic love, it's the joining of two families.

"Marriage" gives you strength?

Is there something magical I'm missing out on? Or is 'Marriage' the same thing as when an honest person commits to another? Because when I commit to someone, have children with them, own a home with them, etc. that is my strength to not give up.

If you need a ring, certificate, and a ceremony to provide strength in your commitment, you aren't doing it right.

As you can see from everyday life, "Marriage" isn't valued much anymore. People lie, cheat, and leave their marriage partners everyday.

YOU don't value marriage and don't understand it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love knowing that my boyfriend is with me because he chooses to be.

Too bad, according to many here, that your commitment is not real unless you go in front of God (LOL).

I lived in sin with my dh before we were married. We didn't get married in a church but I think that a church wedding would have been really nice. And there are times that I regret not having a more formal/traditional wedding. It just wasn't in the cards for us given our circumstances at the time. We did enjoy our small, low pressure wedding. It was perfect for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For me that is a horse/pony show. Do you really need all that to love someone? At that moment does something change after having a wedding? No.

It is nothing more than tradition and religious based. That is what we have been taught from early on. Good thing I can look beyond the nonsense and realize what is truly important in a relationship.

It's not nonsense. It gives you the strength not to give up when things get hard, and gives you public support right from the get go. Marriage is about much more than romantic love, it's the joining of two families.

I get that from not being married. All of our friends and family give us support and acknowledge our relationship.
Why do you need approval?

I want approval from my family and his.

How long have you been married?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For you marriage does that. My relationship is as strong, as official and as important as your marriage.
We don't need marriage to attain an increased commitment level.

But I don't recognize your non marriage as official, or as important as mine. Sorry. That's reserved for married people.

I really don't care if you do! I view your marriage as sad and unnecessary.

Why is marriage "sad"?

I don't view all marriage as sad. I view marriage to her as sad.

Who is "her"? Are we devolving into ad hominem attacks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love knowing that my boyfriend is with me because he chooses to be.

Too bad, according to many here, that your commitment is not real unless you go in front of God (LOL).

I lived in sin with my dh before we were married. We didn't get married in a church but I think that a church wedding would have been really nice. And there are times that I regret not having a more formal/traditional wedding. It just wasn't in the cards for us given our circumstances at the time. We did enjoy our small, low pressure wedding. It was perfect for us.

And what in the world does this post have to do with the price of tea in China?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, you don't marry, because you assume the relationship will end, and it's easier to end a cohabiting situation?

Personally I don't marry because I don't see the benefits of it. I am with a person because I want to be with them. I commit to them because I love them, not because I'm legally tied to them. The easy split is just a possible benefit if it comes to that.

Others want to marry and gain the benefits from that. That is their choice.

My opinion comes from they way I look at things. And in this situation I step back and say WHY do I need to get married? And there really aren't any reasons that make sense to me because marriage doesn't strengthen a commitment IMO.

Marriage absolutely strengthens a commitment if done right. Premarital counseling. Standing up before God, family and friends and promising to love, honor and cherish the other person. That's why marriages are done formally - to strengthen and acknowledge an increased commitment level.

For me that is a horse/pony show. Do you really need all that to love someone? At that moment does something change after having a wedding? No.

It is nothing more than tradition and religious based. That is what we have been taught from early on. Good thing I can look beyond the nonsense and realize what is truly important in a relationship.

It's not nonsense. It gives you the strength not to give up when things get hard, and gives you public support right from the get go. Marriage is about much more than romantic love, it's the joining of two families.

I get that from not being married. All of our friends and family give us support and acknowledge our relationship.
Why do you need approval?

I want approval from my family and his.

How long have you been married?

Over 15 years. Why?