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| A particular statement of opinion may be conclusory but that doesn't mean that there's no thought behind the opinion. You obviously disagree with her thought process (spelled out subsequently), but that doesn't mean it's rooted in fear, stupidity, ignorance, self-delusion, etc. |
Actually, it does. On the face of it, there are many positives about publics schools. It's not hard to think of positives. The poster apparently didn't bother to think before writing, or doesn't want to see them. You can tell me which, but it's one of these. |
| I am not sure why you think people have to have the same SES to share values but you are wrong. High SES does not = good values nor is the reverse true. Its appalling you would even suggest this. I think you are the one living in the bubble if you think money = strong values and morals. |
| ITA. Plus, if this were true (which it's not), then a high-income public would suit the poster's needs just as well as a private school. |
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I'm confused about who is talking to whom here. It's the "no redeeming qualities" poster who wants private schools who have different skin colors, but who all have high SES and, she claims, values similar to hers?
Maybe this is a reflection on how confused her arguments are. |
I am the "nitwit" (no reeding value in Public schools) poster.
I said specifically that the private school we chose for our children has an excellent FA track record and is very serious about economic, as well as other types, of diversity. There are a wide range os SES families at the school. Indeed, I have been to some of their houses and had them to mine. Some have a house twice as large as ours and beutiful acres of land, others live much further out in smaller homes, some live right down the street in a home similar to our's. Most other parents are college educated, but some are not. Some dress in classic business attire some wear uniforms from their jobs. Regardless, there are very strong values and morals that many of them share with us and that is what matters to me, not what their SES is. Another poster said that in my search for like minded parents, those with the same values and morals, I would only find them in people with similar SES to mine. I call total BS on that. It is an incredibly offensive statement and, I know from my experience, absolutely false. I have found like-minded parents at all SES levels. My position (argument) is very clear, other PPs are muddying the waters in their rabid defense of public schools. I do not see a single reason to send my child to public school when I can afford private, regadless of the quality of the public. I do not care a whit if you prefer public schools and if you vehemently disagree with my position. I hope your children do well at their school and become adults who thank you for your parenting decisions on their education. That is all any of can hope for as we weigh our personal beliefs with available facts and make the decision on how best to educate our children. |
| That is (no redeeming value in public schools) poster.... weird typo. |
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Some wear uniforms for their jobs... OK, this is not a top 3 school. I'm thinking it's a jewish or christian school.
Choosing a religious school is absolutely fine in my book (I don't know about other posters). I sent my kids to an episcopal school. But why can't you just COME CLEAN AND STATE IT. Instead you have tried to muddy the waters with (a) nonsense about diversity in your private school and (b) saying insulting, offensive things (no redeeming value) about public schools. Two questions for you: 1. Do you really think it's acceptable to call people "rapid public school defenders" after you've said insulting and offensive things (no redeeming value) about public schools? Because I think people, including several here with kids in private school, are responding in a totally predictable and understandable way. 2. More important, please tell us: what "better" values do you find at private school that you think you wouldn't find in a public school in a good area. You have given two reasons for preferring private to public: "I can afford private" and "I prefer the values at private schools." But you've never told us what these supposedly superior values are, and I'm very curious. |
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At this point, rabid doesn't seem like an overstatement. You're so sanctimonious, unselfcritical, and just plain out of control. (And I'm *not* the poster you're attacking).
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Nice ad hominem attacks. You clearly have no substance to offer. "Unselfcritical" is clearly the watchword for this thread, but it's not my problem, it's yours and hers. When either of you can explain how public schools have "no redeeming value" then you might deserve to be recognized as thoughtful, insightful people. Until then, no, the two of you are just rude and insulting. And still, she has never retracted the "no redeeming value in public schools" canard. In fact she seems almost proud of it, using it to identify herself a few minutes ago. |
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So one of you is the OP behind this thread: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/169688.page
Which one of you is it? It's stupid, thoughtless, and insulting. Almost the mirror image of your posts on this thread. Go ahead, pat yourselves (or maybe yourself) on the back, you're wonderful people (or maybe a single person). Clearly your reasoning powers are fabulous, because nobody in the history of mankind has ever seen anything, ever, of value in public schools. I doubt anybody on DCUM could name anything of value in public schools! Clearly you're not driven by snobbery and bigotry at all, I'm amazed anybody would say that. I'm out of here. Tired of dealing with inferior intellects. |
| C'mon, fess up! NP here. This thread is pretty gross, and so was that thread. The common denominator is one of the anti-public posters. |
OP chiming in, and I'm definitely neither of those posters. I see lots of redeeming value in the strong public schools where I live. It's exactly why I posed my question, what were your reasons behind choosing private school if indeed you believe that your local public has lots to offer? What more were you hoping to get at private that had you make that decision? Not a troll. Not looking for a fight. Parent with a child entering the school system in a year, and I keep contemplating private and trying to decide if it's worth it. Very sorry that this thread took such a negative 12-page turn to it. |
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I am NOT behind that thread. I think it is a terible thread. However, I think those of you who are so insistent that one of the posters from thread started that obnoxious thread highlights the fact that many of you are in denial. You think there are o0nly one or two people who regard the public/priavte debate this way. In reality there are many people who believe that private school is by far the best option for educating their children regardless of the quality of local public schools. That, in fact, many parents do not even consider the local public as a school option.
Oh and why would a parent who works as say a nurse, or security guard, or UPS delivery person, (all of whom wear "uniforms" on the job) not have a child at a "Big 3?" Talk about an elitist and rude comment. Those are people for whom FA was created and it serves them quite well, even at the "Big 3." |
| Thanks, 8:38. Couldn't agree more. |