What an Ivy league education gets you - the Atlantic

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Anonymous wrote:12% are ivy ceos. What about the other 88%? It’s a dumb report. I know plenty of multi millionaires who went to average schools and some who didn’t even go to college.

If 0.5% percent of American students attend an Ivy but 12% of CEOs went to an Ivy, then that actual demonstrates that Ivy grads actually are overrepresented at the top, relative to their prevalence in the general population.

Correlation =/= causation

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t prove Ivy League schools matter. You can argue it’s the high student caliber in those schools that led to the results.

The waitlisted students are of a similar calibre yet don't get the same benefits

So all these CEOs and leaders they’re looking at were waitlisted first? How do they even know if someone was waitlisted in 1950?

You should read the study, or paste it into AI and ask it these questions.

Stupid answer. Thanks for confirming that you’re an idiot.

It's not answer, it's advice. It's one thing to demand to be spoonfed, and quite another to throw a tantrum when told to feed yourself.

Says the moron who uses AI…

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

IIT isn’t equivalent to HYPSM, not even close. Don’t tell me you are concluding this based on the acceptance rates.

Huh? They are even more determinant of one’s fate in India compared to HYPSM in the US…but they likely are less meritocratic in terms of acceptances.

Thats how it goes in most Asian countries. You have to attend a top school.

I meant to say they might be an HYPSM equivalent within India but not at the same caliber.

It’s anecdotal, but there are lots of stories of wealthy Indian students at HYPSM because they were rejected by the top IITs.

Urban myth. There are maybe a few outliers but definitely not the norm.
I know at least for MIT, there are close to zero such outliers.

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Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

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Anonymous wrote:Correlation =/= causation, dummy.

This is pretty good as far as social sciences go

And that doesn’t contradict the conclusion. Social science isn’t science.

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Will any of this matter in the world of AI?

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Anonymous wrote:What the article is getting at is that smart people with emotional intelligence go far. Basing that conclusion on Ivy schools is a little reductive however. It's a very outdated metric. There are bright students with a high emotional IQ at all sorts of schools in 2026.

But peer group and good manners do matter of course - as they have since the beginning of time. Not exactly rocket science.

The metric is the concentration of these people. Far fewer in other schools.

bingo.

Parent of a current Ivy student who describes all of his classmates as "cracked" and says it has made him better.

Same. It can cause angst but boy does it push them all.

If you aspire for your child to be a societal and environmental menace, by all means these schools with a statistically higher concentration of sociopaths will push them.

Some people aspire to more than that, however.

A disproportionate number of medical breakthroughs come from their grads, a disproportionate number of NGOs are run by their grads.

Doesn’t disprove what I said.

Also, LOL to your naivete if you think there isn’t a significant amount of personal financial gain in these alleged medical breakthroughs and NGOs.

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Anonymous wrote:Will any of this matter in the world of AI?

Right now it matters by the number of AI companies founded by elite school dropouts.

It’s massively skewed. However, the founders agree that no college is keeping up with the times.

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Anonymous wrote:What the article is getting at is that smart people with emotional intelligence go far. Basing that conclusion on Ivy schools is a little reductive however. It's a very outdated metric. There are bright students with a high emotional IQ at all sorts of schools in 2026.

But peer group and good manners do matter of course - as they have since the beginning of time. Not exactly rocket science.

The metric is the concentration of these people. Far fewer in other schools.

Eh. Given admission priorities these days, the Ivy League ain't all that in 2026. For smart + emotional IQ, there are a lot of other schools, as everyone who has toured universities over the past three years has discerned. The Harvard Man is a myth today. Things have changed a lot.

Disagree. Ivy leagues are all test required now. Of course they have institutional priorities, but they all submit scores. The majority of other schools are test optional, AND give the same if not more preference to priorities.

These tests are meaningless when we all know that the little Larlos of the world studied with tutors for years AND had to take the tests multiple times to achieve their “superior” scores.

These tests are the single most valid and predictive indicators of everything from future college performance to likelihood of publishing research that will be cited.

Again, correlation =/= causation.

Yes, the privileged kids who benefit from private tutors and infinite chances end up being privileged adults.

Honestly, the level of discourse in this thread (and the complete lack of understanding of statistics and to be blunt, how the world works) just reinforces the point that the average Ivy admit is NOT the best and the brightest, but just another privileged spawn of striving, prestige obsessed parents who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag…

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Anonymous wrote:Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

Another low iq person exposed.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

Another low iq person exposed.

DP. Nothing about that post is low IQ. It is simply stating a different preference.

Low IQ is not being able to understand the difference.

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Remind your kids that family, with education, is the best investment.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

+1 I'm going to retire at 56 with a good enough nest egg for us to travel a few times per year. This has been my goal since I was a teenager.

-no name state u grad

But, my one DC is interning at two quant firms and expecting a return offer from one of them. They are at a state flagship.

I've worked for a FAANG for most of my career, and I could keep up with my peers who graduated from places like MIT. I was always a top performer.

IMO, an Ivy+ label gets you there faster, and it certainly opens more doors initially. But, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are smarter when it comes to the workplace.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

+100.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither me nor my DH attended an ivy league school. We both have flexible well paying jobs with good work life balance. We have a great life and it's what we want for our kid. Not a crazy high pressure job that will destroy their health.

Another low iq person exposed.

DP. Nothing about that post is low IQ. It is simply stating a different preference.

Low IQ is not being able to understand the difference.

Trying is inference using anecdotal instead of statistical evidence IS low iq.