What an Ivy league education gets you - the Atlantic

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Goes to show that parents and their kids here bummed and hurt about not receiving a HYP acceptance, aren’t wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

Sudar went to IIT (the top tech school in India) and Satya went to a 3rd tier engineering college in India and came here for his masters to Wisconsin (not even its main campus).

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Anonymous wrote:And income disparity just continues to widen.

And those people wouold have risen to the same posisitons no matter where they went to school. It was always the elevated starting point and connections, not the education.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

IIT isn’t equivalent to HYPSM, not even close. Don’t tell me you are concluding this based on the acceptance rates.

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I know people who struggled emotionally/socially at different Ivies. I also know people who blossomed/thrived at colleges that are looked down upon by people on this board (little known LAC’s, regional state schools). And it’s probably safe to say that may of us have colleagues who never set foot on an Ivy campus or at any T-25 school or SLAC who are doing extremely well.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you think being rich is the most important thing in life, going to an Ivy matters.

+1. Aren't a bunch of rich people running our government right now? How is that working out?

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Anonymous wrote:I know people who struggled emotionally/socially at different Ivies. I also know people who blossomed/thrived at colleges that are looked down upon by people on this board (little known LAC’s, regional state schools). And it’s probably safe to say that may of us have colleagues who never set foot on an Ivy campus or at any T-25 school or SLAC who are doing extremely well.

Anecdotes vs statistical evidence. DCUM also struggles to understand the difference, which is a sign of low IQ.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people who struggled emotionally/socially at different Ivies. I also know people who blossomed/thrived at colleges that are looked down upon by people on this board (little known LAC’s, regional state schools). And it’s probably safe to say that may of us have colleagues who never set foot on an Ivy campus or at any T-25 school or SLAC who are doing extremely well.

Anecdotes vs statistical evidence. DCUM also struggles to understand the difference, which is a sign of low IQ.

Not disputing the advantages of an Ivy. Just saying it’s not the best-all or end-all. And it’s not the only thing out there.

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Anonymous wrote:The most sure thing you get from an Ivy degree (really only HPY) is bragging rights. In most circles it is shorthand for I’m smart.

But, it also comes with a lot of baggage, especially outside Ivy circles. Many think that Ivy “normals” rest on their laurels and think too highly of themselves. Some normals are so intoxicated by their supposed sophistication that they are tone-deaf to their obnoxiousness. The worst is when Ivy normals level-up by name-dropping notable alumni, especially ones who attended school at the same time but didn’t interact with them. In other words, for many Ivy graduates, the diploma becomes a burden that many don’t wear well. With great opportunities come great, perhaps insurmountable, expectations.

I think one exception might be Cornell.

If you say you went to Cornell, you are signaling that you are smart but nobody thinks you're bragging.

I actually think Cornell says "I'm a slave to the Ivy brand but this is the best I could do." It's kind of embarrassing.
This describes many kids I know who are there.

Or you think the other Ivies are too pretentious.

Or you want to study engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

IIT isn’t equivalent to HYPSM, not even close. Don’t tell me you are concluding this based on the acceptance rates.

Huh? They are even more determinant of one’s fate in India compared to HYPSM in the US…but they likely are less meritocratic in terms of acceptances.

Thats how it goes in most Asian countries. You have to attend a top school.

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Anonymous wrote:What the article is getting at is that smart people with emotional intelligence go far. Basing that conclusion on Ivy schools is a little reductive however. It's a very outdated metric. There are bright students with a high emotional IQ at all sorts of schools in 2026.

But peer group and good manners do matter of course - as they have since the beginning of time. Not exactly rocket science.

The metric is the concentration of these people. Far fewer in other schools.

Eh. Given admission priorities these days, the Ivy League ain't all that in 2026. For smart + emotional IQ, there are a lot of other schools, as everyone who has toured universities over the past three years has discerned. The Harvard Man is a myth today. Things have changed a lot.

They're test required now. All is well.

If you believe that test required is going to give anyone a better chance you are naive. They are still admitting the class that they want to build, it the one that you believe they should build.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

IIT isn’t equivalent to HYPSM, not even close. Don’t tell me you are concluding this based on the acceptance rates.

Huh? They are even more determinant of one’s fate in India compared to HYPSM in the US…but they likely are less meritocratic in terms of acceptances.

Thats how it goes in most Asian countries. You have to attend a top school.

I meant to say they might be an HYPSM equivalent within India but not at the same caliber.

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When I think of Cornell, I think of Andy Bernard from The Office tv show….

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true. I went to an Ivy and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO.

Everyone should send their kid to an Ivy 25 years ago so they can be a Fortune 500 CEO too!

Look at Sundae Pichai, Satya Nadella, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook...

Sundai did attend UPenn and Satya attended an ITT school in India which are the equivalent of HYPSM.

Jensen has a graduate degree from Stanford and gives tons more to Stanford than Oregon where he did undergrad.

Tim Cook I will give you.

IIT isn’t equivalent to HYPSM, not even close. Don’t tell me you are concluding this based on the acceptance rates.

Huh? They are even more determinant of one’s fate in India compared to HYPSM in the US…but they likely are less meritocratic in terms of acceptances.

Thats how it goes in most Asian countries. You have to attend a top school.

I meant to say they might be an HYPSM equivalent within India but not at the same caliber.

It’s anecdotal, but there are lots of stories of wealthy Indian students at HYPSM because they were rejected by the top IITs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people who struggled emotionally/socially at different Ivies. I also know people who blossomed/thrived at colleges that are looked down upon by people on this board (little known LAC’s, regional state schools). And it’s probably safe to say that may of us have colleagues who never set foot on an Ivy campus or at any T-25 school or SLAC who are doing extremely well.

Anecdotes vs statistical evidence. DCUM also struggles to understand the difference, which is a sign of low IQ.

Not disputing the advantages of an Ivy. Just saying it’s not the best-all or end-all. And it’s not the only thing out there.

Accurate. Other studies show little/no impact (this study addresses that as well) and, as noted earlier, the relative impact in this study is large but the probabilities of achieving what is being measured (top 1 percent income, elite grad school) are still low.