Chat GPT for Teachers - seriously

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe OpenAI has a superintendent module that FCPS could pilot. Would save cost, since it wouldn’t need a security detail and might even make a good decision once in a while.

Lol

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

+1M! This! All this!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

+1M! This! All this!!!

They need standard curriculum
And materials for all classes. Each teacher is being expected to create everything- which is a waste of time, leads to inconsistency, and teachers don’t have quality sources or materials. The school system needs to provide this for ALL classes.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

+1M! This! All this!!!

They need standard curriculum
And materials for all classes. Each teacher is being expected to create everything- which is a waste of time, leads to inconsistency, and teachers don’t have quality sources or materials. The school system needs to provide this for ALL classes.

Yes. But surely in a country educating millions of children there are resources FCPS can buy for this. The ones FCPS staff make for teachers to use (eg during Covid) don’t seem good.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

+1M! This! All this!!!

They need standard curriculum
And materials for all classes. Each teacher is being expected to create everything- which is a waste of time, leads to inconsistency, and teachers don’t have quality sources or materials. The school system needs to provide this for ALL classes.

Yes. But surely in a country educating millions of children there are resources FCPS can buy for this. The ones FCPS staff make for teachers to use (eg during Covid) don’t seem good.

Agree. This should be a priority for FCPS. FYI the new “benchmark” reading program for K-8 provides this. The students have a printed mini-textbook with lessons. They read and hand write in their book.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

+1M! This! All this!!!

They need standard curriculum
And materials for all classes. Each teacher is being expected to create everything- which is a waste of time, leads to inconsistency, and teachers don’t have quality sources or materials. The school system needs to provide this for ALL classes.

Yes. But surely in a country educating millions of children there are resources FCPS can buy for this. The ones FCPS staff make for teachers to use (eg during Covid) don’t seem good.

Agree. This should be a priority for FCPS. FYI the new “benchmark” reading program for K-8 provides this. The students have a printed mini-textbook with lessons. They read and hand write in their book.

But the current students in grade 8-12 are not the benefactors of this benchmark curriculum. They have missed so much foundation. They have gaps in their knowledge base and no one is paying attention or filling it in.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand how any of this is “easier” than reading a book together as a class, discussing it and then working on a short essay. Or, a teacher teaching the content in the next chapter in the math textbook. Using the book practice questions and homework assignments.

Honestly…. All this busy/ make work when the old textbooks have already done the planning for you is self-inflicted.

why did we move away from textbooks? Truly dont know how or why that happened over the last 20 years.

DP. Textbooks are expensive and get outdated quickly, which then necessitates that either teachers find supplements or schools spend more money on new textbooks. Twenty years ago, we didn't know using digital textbooks would affect student comprehension.

I'd love to know what subjects get "outdated quickly" at the FCPS level. Math, science, literature, arts, history - is someone teaching a subject that requires yearly updates? I doubt it.

In Virginia, the standards for these subjects are reviewed and modified every seven years. At the elementary level, it’s common for each grade level to have a few standards that shift down a level and a few that shift up a level each time this happens. It’s also common for the application of the standard to change, such as adding that students now need to interpret a model. So the textbooks do become outdated, in terms of being able to use them effectively and correctly, every seven years.

Yes, but the bulk of the material remains unchanged for decades. Algebra concepts are not changing, history is not changing, phonics is not changing, symbolism ix not changing, etc. The ability to learn the bulk of the material in a straightforward, organized way through an edited and fully vetted textbook far outweighs it missing one VA standard.

+1 The alternative now is that teachers are photo copying hundreds of pages each week that have been cobbled together from various websites, homeschooling sites, and TpT. Each teacher reinvents their own wheel. Standards are introduced in a disjointed way. One concept does not flow into the next. Scraps of poorly formatted paper worksheets are thrown at the kids. The kids have no single source like a text to draw upon for information so they are forced to Google the internet for answers. Then they don’t read. They skim websites for quick answers to complete the blanks on the sheet and move on. When it’s test time they have scraps of worksheets, videos, Gatehouse slides (mostly from 2020-2021), Gatehouse created Google activities like Escape rooms/pixel art with no show your work answers, never explained Gizmo answers, answers in electronic files like interactive notebooks, Brainpop vids, Math antics vids, News A to Z, etc. It’s very challenging for kids to learn in a coordinated fashion where ideas are connected and learning thoughts lead from one idea to the next idea. Rather, ideas are disconnected and students don’t have a text to review. There is no one central notebook of notes since Kahoot questions and videos were the norm in how the material was presented to them.

well stated!