Chat GPT for Teachers - seriously
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Anonymous
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We have a book room full of useless textbooks because the standards change and shift so much.
Standards change every 7 years Textbook contracts are for 7 years too, but not on the same cycle. So standards change in 2025, new book is adopted in 2027, book is only good for 5 years before the standards change and teachers are piecing together the additional content. We really can't adopt books faster than that because there is a year long approval process. Books are released in 2025, RFP put out the same year, books evaluated in 2026, adopted in 2027. It's not smooth. Standardized testing has made it so you can't just follow a textbook from 10 years ago, no matter the subject. |
Anonymous
| So how did they use textbooks before? Maybe ChatGPT can help supplement the textbook with standardized testing requirements planning. |
Anonymous
Textbooks were huge before standardized testing. Since SOLs started in earnest, they have gone the way of the dinosaur. It's too expensive to replace them every 7 years and only use them for 5. The digital textbooks are easier. With those licenses (mathspace, for my subject), I have access to problems from elementary through Algebra 2 and can fish for the standards I need regardless of what textbook they are officially aligned to. My algebra 1 classes have some things on their homework this week from the 6th grade textbook and others from the algebra 2 textbook. It's kind of wild. ChatGPT is absolutely terrible and making math worksheets. Ask it to make one. "Create a worksheet with an answer bank asking students to graph quadratic inequalities. Give them the quadratic graph and just ask them to shade". It can't do it. It returns....gibberish. "Create a self checking worksheet for students to turn 2 ordered pairs into the slope intercept form of a line. Make sure both the x and y intercepts come out as integers." Can't do that either. Nothing will be integers. "Create an AP Calculus style free response question similar to 2008 #2. Test the same concepts, but do it in a different way." It will literally just replace the word "cars" with "bicycles". When you tell it that's not a different way to test the concept, it will apologize and change "bicycles" to "roller skates". |
Anonymous
I think parents would be just fine with kids learning info from a not latest and greatest textbook version. Nobody would honestly know the difference except the publishers and paid off middle men. Bring back textbooks!! You ever see those posts about “6th grade exams from 1930?” No high school senior could pass test they were giving out to poor, rural kids 100yrs ago. |
Anonymous
Until they can’t pass SOLs because 10% of standards aren’t covered in the old version of the book. Or they aren’t prepared for the next course in the sequence because it was expected XYZ was taught in year 1 but it wasn’t because it wasn’t in that year’s book, but there are so many standards in year 2 now there isn’t time to teach the skipped year 1 stuff. I don’t think the current set up is ideal, but I don’t think traditional textbooks solve as many problems as you want them to either. |
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I’m not overly familiar with the changing standards /state curriculum and if they are so fickle and change so routinely, it’s probably moot to chase them. You can’t convince me that teaching boring old reading, writing and arithmetic would put kids at a disadvantage. My bet is kids being taught from textbooks of the 90s with no input from whatever today’s curriculum “standards” are would pass the SOLs with fliying colors.
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Anonymous
+1 I don’t teach but yes this is my type of experience trying to get ChatGPT to do the stuff I most would like to outsource from my job. It is really really good at summarizing docs, and very bad at anything that requires layout or analysis of things other than words. |
Anonymous
Alpha’s timeback platform doesn’t use LLMs. Machine learning isn’t just ChatGPT. |
Anonymous
Agreed. The curriculum taught at any level in FCPS shouldn't be changing that often. Certainly not at the elementary school level. Get back to basics and stop chasing fads. |
Anonymous
| Chat GPT in schools = lazy and stupid future. My higher schooler started to spew off what he thought was a fact last week. I told him he was wrong and he told me I needed to google it. Well, it was indeed wrong and he was shocked ChatGPT told him that. These kids have shorter attention spans with all the quick videos they are watching and all the information they see as fact from google and ChatGPT. I used to work in an industry where your narrative could easily be created with cherry picking information. I was always taught to look into where the data was coming from, these kids are not. I have fought the laptops, lexia, delta math, etc in every which way with the school system. It doesn't matter if you don't give consent, the teachers still give the kids access to the apps. My kids are not brighter than their dad and I. They are taught a lot of information but it's not a deep learning where they actually understand it. Gone are the basics. My biggest mistake was not having enough money to send them to private school or being able to move away from FCPS. |
Anonymous
For those here that haven’t read, go look up AI bias and discrimination . What is used to train AI sets up for bias and discrimination, the keywords used, etc. Kids need to be taught to question and not that THIS is the answer. Some parents can do this but not all and likely not most. |
Anonymous
Can schools print from the digital book for “homemade textbooks?” |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Talk to VDOE, they change the standards not FCPS. |
Anonymous
Text books are written for common core. Virginia doesn’t follow common core… Thus the textbooks are not aligned to what we teach. |