Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.


If course the US is paying for his imprisonment. He was initially in the tda plane but after the court hearing, they changed it to "INA". Either way, we sent him to CECOT. And there he lies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


+ million. Trump pays money to El Salvador, and El Salvador won’t listen to Trump. So Trump is getting rolled by a third world country. So weak, so sad.



We aren’t paying for his imprisonment.


lol sure
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


+ million. Trump pays money to El Salvador, and El Salvador won’t listen to Trump. So Trump is getting rolled by a third world country. So weak, so sad.



We aren’t paying for his imprisonment.


lol sure


Show us where the judge said this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.


Actually, we do not know this. And we do not know this because the government refuses to disclose the terms of the agreement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


+ million. Trump pays money to El Salvador, and El Salvador won’t listen to Trump. So Trump is getting rolled by a third world country. So weak, so sad.



We aren’t paying for his imprisonment.


lol sure


You’re confusing our contract for citizens not of El Salvador who Venezuela refuses to take back. Different gang, different citizenships at hand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


She has asked them what they have done to comply with the opinion of the Supreme Court. She is under no obligation to give a definition at this point
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.


Actually, we do not know this. And we do not know this because the government refuses to disclose the terms of the agreement.


Where did the judge outline that they need to outline this? She hasn’t even clarified “facilitate” yet. I imagine DOJ will eventually need to certify in court that ES is paying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.


The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.


The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.


If course the US is paying for his imprisonment. He was initially in the tda plane but after the court hearing, they changed it to "INA". Either way, we sent him to CECOT. And there he lies.


CECOT has both categories of prisoners. That doesn’t mean anything.

His category was changed because he was an alternate on the plane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.


More name calling with zero argument behind it. How boring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


She has asked them what they have done to comply with the opinion of the Supreme Court. She is under no obligation to give a definition at this point


lol she is the judge who was told by SCOTUS to clarify the order with deference to executive power! Didn’t you read the order?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.


More name calling with zero argument behind it. How boring.


What argument? Xinis is setting up contempt charges. Which the government deserves, since they are not bothering to bring him back, as they have been ordered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.


More name calling with zero argument behind it. How boring.


What argument? Xinis is setting up contempt charges. Which the government deserves, since they are not bothering to bring him back, as they have been ordered.


Who cares? We all know she is. There is no way for her to enforce anything because she doesn’t control the DOJ.

This is all going back to SCOTUS once she outlines what expects the government to do, and they appeal claiming it’s an encroachment on article 11 powers. It ends there. SCOTUS isn’t going to dictate foreign relations. At most she gets a PR boost on the left but this issue as a whole isn’t helping the left.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.


More name calling with zero argument behind it. How boring.


What argument? Xinis is setting up contempt charges. Which the government deserves, since they are not bothering to bring him back, as they have been ordered.


An argument against what I wrote. Your post was name calling with no substance. Grow up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!

Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."

More from the judge:

Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.

Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/


She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.


Can you explain that for non-lawyers?

SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.


You better call Saul because you are among the worst internet legal eagles ever.


More name calling with zero argument behind it. How boring.


What argument? Xinis is setting up contempt charges. Which the government deserves, since they are not bothering to bring him back, as they have been ordered.


Who cares? We all know she is. There is no way for her to enforce anything because she doesn’t control the DOJ.

This is all going back to SCOTUS once she outlines what expects the government to do, and they appeal claiming it’s an encroachment on article 11 powers. It ends there. SCOTUS isn’t going to dictate foreign relations. At most she gets a PR boost on the left but this issue as a whole isn’t helping the left.



Judges can impose civil fines and they can deputies private citizens to enforce civil contempt penalties which can include jail.
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