Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how all the "i refuse to vote for Harris because of Gaza" folks are feeling right now.

They didn’t vote for her because she’s a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I think clearing it out is the right idea, given that in 77 years the Gazans have done nothing to help themselves. They remain a threat to their neighbors, which is why containment has heretofore been the policy. All the sniveling about how they are so oppressed is a smokescreen for their inability to govern themselves peacefully without corruption, for their misuse of decades of foreign aid, and for their inability to accept any kind of modus vivendi other than a return to the British Mandate pre-1947. Their alliance with Iran says all the civilized world needs to know about their values. Their puerile aspirations for the disappearance of Israel are not only homicidal and self-destructive, they are utterly unrealistic.

A world where people attending a music festival in peace need not worry about being murdered, raped, or kidnapped by Palestinians with grievances sounds pretty good.

Get off your high horse
You are very ignorant about the conditions and their suffering.
It makes no sense to me that an entire people need to be ethnically cleansed just so that one other people group that clowns around with religion can live in comfort

the problem is they voted in hamas to govern their country which is a terrorist org therefore this happened. moving forward they should pick something less violent

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. The current setup was not sustainable and as pressure builds up, conflict is inevitable.
Let us not kid ourselves, neither side is blameless.
Netanyahu once supported Hamas
Israel isn’t a democracy either

Their pre 1/07 situation was only made vastly worse by their external expression of frustration in the form of terrorism, a constantly recurring fallback year after year. The "pressure" should have been to get rid of Hamas and vote in a government which would use foreign aid for its intended purposes, and would work to achieve situational improvements through non-violent means.

The PROBLEM actually is that you fail to differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas. So why should the non-Hamas Palestinians have to leave?

They can stay and become collateral damage. Or they can leave and live peacefully elsewhere. But there really are no "non-Hamas" Palestinians. Hamas was voted in by the general population, not only by active militants. That population voted for a government which has a core policy of trying to exterminate a neighboring country. That population could divulge the location of Hamas militants and infrastructure to aid in eliminating both. It does not. It could rise up against Hamas. It has not. It is at best passive with respect to Hamas, and at worst actively provides shelter and support, both tangible and moral, to terrorists. It's culturally ingrained at this point. The Palestinians are complicit in Hamas' obscene activities. They have hard road ahead if they wish to change course, but there's no sign they want to - they just want more foreign aid and an end to the repercussions of Hamas terrorism, without actually doing anything to stop it.

Hamas was voted into office in 2006, The median age in Gaza is 18 with over 40% under the age of 14. These are children non of whom were alive in 2006. But keep lying to yourself to justify genocide.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas behaved like Russia, charging over the border to attack its neighbor. Plus taking civilian hostages. Rape is not resistance. Killing music festivalgoers is not resistance. It's not even following the rules of war. It's pure terrorist war crimes.

I think most people understand that it was terrorism. But the occupied area is not Russia

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Perhaps all these planes that Brazil and Colombia are refusing to accept, send them to Gaza.

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Anonymous wrote:I think clearing it out is the right idea, given that in 77 years the Gazans have done nothing to help themselves. They remain a threat to their neighbors, which is why containment has heretofore been the policy. All the sniveling about how they are so oppressed is a smokescreen for their inability to govern themselves peacefully without corruption, for their misuse of decades of foreign aid, and for their inability to accept any kind of modus vivendi other than a return to the British Mandate pre-1947. Their alliance with Iran says all the civilized world needs to know about their values. Their puerile aspirations for the disappearance of Israel are not only homicidal and self-destructive, they are utterly unrealistic.

A world where people attending a music festival in peace need not worry about being murdered, raped, or kidnapped by Palestinians with grievances sounds pretty good.

Get off your high horse
You are very ignorant about the conditions and their suffering.
It makes no sense to me that an entire people need to be ethnically cleansed just so that one other people group that clowns around with religion can live in comfort

the problem is they voted in hamas to govern their country which is a terrorist org therefore this happened. moving forward they should pick something less violent

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. The current setup was not sustainable and as pressure builds up, conflict is inevitable.
Let us not kid ourselves, neither side is blameless.
Netanyahu once supported Hamas
Israel isn’t a democracy either

Their pre 1/07 situation was only made vastly worse by their external expression of frustration in the form of terrorism, a constantly recurring fallback year after year. The "pressure" should have been to get rid of Hamas and vote in a government which would use foreign aid for its intended purposes, and would work to achieve situational improvements through non-violent means.

The PROBLEM actually is that you fail to differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas. So why should the non-Hamas Palestinians have to leave?

Because they couldn't convince their terrorist brothers to not be terrorists. Bye, bye.

So even if they tried and failed you are admitting they are terrorists.

Yep. So sorry that Trump was elected. They are effed, but at least it's not Genocide Joe, amirite?

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If Hamas was gone, and only civilians left what would the excuse be? Because this treatment existed before Hamas?

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Anonymous wrote:If Hamas was gone, and only civilians left what would the excuse be? Because this treatment existed before Hamas?

There's no reason to think that violence would continue if the terrorists to have been perpetuating it are eliminated. It takes two to tango.

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Anonymous wrote:If Hamas was gone, and only civilians left what would the excuse be? Because this treatment existed before Hamas?

There's no reason to think that violence would continue if the terrorists to have been perpetuating it are eliminated. It takes two to tango.

Who have been, I mean

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Anonymous wrote:I think clearing it out is the right idea, given that in 77 years the Gazans have done nothing to help themselves. They remain a threat to their neighbors, which is why containment has heretofore been the policy. All the sniveling about how they are so oppressed is a smokescreen for their inability to govern themselves peacefully without corruption, for their misuse of decades of foreign aid, and for their inability to accept any kind of modus vivendi other than a return to the British Mandate pre-1947. Their alliance with Iran says all the civilized world needs to know about their values. Their puerile aspirations for the disappearance of Israel are not only homicidal and self-destructive, they are utterly unrealistic.

A world where people attending a music festival in peace need not worry about being murdered, raped, or kidnapped by Palestinians with grievances sounds pretty good.

Get off your high horse
You are very ignorant about the conditions and their suffering.
It makes no sense to me that an entire people need to be ethnically cleansed just so that one other people group that clowns around with religion can live in comfort

the problem is they voted in hamas to govern their country which is a terrorist org therefore this happened. moving forward they should pick something less violent

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. The current setup was not sustainable and as pressure builds up, conflict is inevitable.
Let us not kid ourselves, neither side is blameless.
Netanyahu once supported Hamas
Israel isn’t a democracy either

Their pre 1/07 situation was only made vastly worse by their external expression of frustration in the form of terrorism, a constantly recurring fallback year after year. The "pressure" should have been to get rid of Hamas and vote in a government which would use foreign aid for its intended purposes, and would work to achieve situational improvements through non-violent means.

The PROBLEM actually is that you fail to differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas. So why should the non-Hamas Palestinians have to leave?

They can stay and become collateral damage. Or they can leave and live peacefully elsewhere. But there really are no "non-Hamas" Palestinians. Hamas was voted in by the general population, not only by active militants. That population voted for a government which has a core policy of trying to exterminate a neighboring country. That population could divulge the location of Hamas militants and infrastructure to aid in eliminating both. It does not. It could rise up against Hamas. It has not. It is at best passive with respect to Hamas, and at worst actively provides shelter and support, both tangible and moral, to terrorists. It's culturally ingrained at this point. The Palestinians are complicit in Hamas' obscene activities. They have hard road ahead if they wish to change course, but there's no sign they want to - they just want more foreign aid and an end to the repercussions of Hamas terrorism, without actually doing anything to stop it.

Hamas was voted into office in 2006, The median age in Gaza is 18 with over 40% under the age of 14. These are children non of whom were alive in 2006. But keep lying to yourself to justify genocide.

So what have all those youngsters been doing to bring about peace within Gaza? Pretty much nothing, it appears.

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Anonymous wrote:If Hamas was gone, and only civilians left what would the excuse be? Because this treatment existed before Hamas?

You are right, there were predecessor terrorists to Hamas. Lots of predecessor terrorists under different guises. Good you recognize it. Basically, hard to envision that only civilians would be left, but if that were the case, it might look like a functioning society where people work, send their kids to school to learn a trade, that sort of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think clearing it out is the right idea, given that in 77 years the Gazans have done nothing to help themselves. They remain a threat to their neighbors, which is why containment has heretofore been the policy. All the sniveling about how they are so oppressed is a smokescreen for their inability to govern themselves peacefully without corruption, for their misuse of decades of foreign aid, and for their inability to accept any kind of modus vivendi other than a return to the British Mandate pre-1947. Their alliance with Iran says all the civilized world needs to know about their values. Their puerile aspirations for the disappearance of Israel are not only homicidal and self-destructive, they are utterly unrealistic.

A world where people attending a music festival in peace need not worry about being murdered, raped, or kidnapped by Palestinians with grievances sounds pretty good.

Get off your high horse
You are very ignorant about the conditions and their suffering.
It makes no sense to me that an entire people need to be ethnically cleansed just so that one other people group that clowns around with religion can live in comfort

the problem is they voted in hamas to govern their country which is a terrorist org therefore this happened. moving forward they should pick something less violent

Only 35ish% of Americans voted for a felon, yet here we are. I don’t know why the 35ish% of us who voted for Harris and 30% of those who didn’t vote should be killed because of his actions.

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Anonymous wrote:I think clearing it out is the right idea, given that in 77 years the Gazans have done nothing to help themselves. They remain a threat to their neighbors, which is why containment has heretofore been the policy. All the sniveling about how they are so oppressed is a smokescreen for their inability to govern themselves peacefully without corruption, for their misuse of decades of foreign aid, and for their inability to accept any kind of modus vivendi other than a return to the British Mandate pre-1947. Their alliance with Iran says all the civilized world needs to know about their values. Their puerile aspirations for the disappearance of Israel are not only homicidal and self-destructive, they are utterly unrealistic.

A world where people attending a music festival in peace need not worry about being murdered, raped, or kidnapped by Palestinians with grievances sounds pretty good.

Get off your high horse
You are very ignorant about the conditions and their suffering.
It makes no sense to me that an entire people need to be ethnically cleansed just so that one other people group that clowns around with religion can live in comfort

the problem is they voted in hamas to govern their country which is a terrorist org therefore this happened. moving forward they should pick something less violent

Only 35ish% of Americans voted for a felon, yet here we are. I don’t know why the 35ish% of us who voted for Harris and 30% of those who didn’t vote should be killed because of his actions.

Not a concern because we are civilized people in a civilized country. We don't rape, kidnap, and kill our political opponents, we just make fun of them on DCUM and we vote again during the next election cycle. In Gaza, on the other hand.....

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Anonymous wrote:If Hamas was gone, and only civilians left what would the excuse be? Because this treatment existed before Hamas?

You are right, there were predecessor terrorists to Hamas. Lots of predecessor terrorists under different guises. Good you recognize it. Basically, hard to envision that only civilians would be left, but if that were the case, it might look like a functioning society where people work, send their kids to school to learn a trade, that sort of thing.

In other words, it might look like peace. It might look like an environment where negotiation and diplomacy are used to try to effect change, a truly novel idea there.

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Anonymous wrote:The neighboring countries don’t want to take in the Palestinians not because they are Palestinian but because they simply do not have the economic ability to do so. There is little to no industry to support a mass influx of immigrants. They can barely manage their own population. Additionally, many of the people in Gaza have limited education (not because they don’t want it but because they aren’t allowed to have schools) and are women and children (all the men are dead) so just like we won’t take in all the immigrants from south and Central America despite our bounty of riches why is it even a consideration.

Here’s a thought. Why not allow the Palestinians to actually live like normal people, to be educated, receive adequate healthcare, farm, have industry occupy their time with productivity? Why is the answer sending them somewhere else? If Israel is so worried about its safety. (It’ll be surrounded by these same people) why not move themselves to Germany, they will be safe there.

Please don’t propagate fake news. Gaza has one of the highest literacy rates in the world.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/PSE/west-bank-and-gaza/literacy-rate

Gaza probably has more PhDs per capita than any western city. A lot of them are women too.

[Anonymous]

It boggles my mind that the people who suffered such horrors and trauma in Hitler’s reign turned around and did the same to others the moment they had power. They became Nazis, after lecturing us about the holocaust for 80 years, every argument that tries to justify killing of thousands of innocent children and women in the guise of “but Hamas” is sickening and frankly shows the true nature of Israelis.

Such lack of compassion and humanity is unacceptable from people who have lived and amassed wealth and benefits as victims of the holocaust, the horrors they have inflicted on the innocent children will haunt the world forever and will be remembered as the genocide of our generation. Sure, they will try their best to create misinformation and propaganda but this time around the world can’t be fooled.

May there be a just hod and may each and every one of you have your reckoning on his door some day, may karma never forget you.