GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.


On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros


If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little


Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.


So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.
College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.
So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

Haha ya'll are delusional. You just linked the announcement to the comment responding to the same link. Everyone is aware of this meaningless marketing ploy.
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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?


It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.


On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros


If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little


Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.


So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.
College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.
So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
https://sports.yahoo.com/us-soccer-girls-youth-development-ecnl-000044659.html
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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?


It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.


On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros


If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little


Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.


So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.
College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.
So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

Haha ya'll are delusional. You just linked the announcement to the comment responding to the same link. Everyone is aware of this meaningless marketing ploy.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?


It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.


On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros


If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little


Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.


So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.
College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.
So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

Haha ya'll are delusional. You just linked the announcement to the comment responding to the same link. Everyone is aware of this meaningless marketing ploy.

MLSN picked Door Dash as partner also, https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-and-doordash-announce-2024-delivering-access-presented-by-doordash-recipients
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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?


It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.


On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros


If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little


Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.


So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.
College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.
So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy
Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

Haha ya'll are delusional. You just linked the announcement to the comment responding to the same link. Everyone is aware of this meaningless marketing ploy.

MLSN picked Door Dash as partner also, https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-and-doordash-announce-2024-delivering-access-presented-by-doordash-recipients

Seems like a good deal to me...

"DoorDash will provide $25,000 to each of these six clubs – AFC Lightning, Beadling Soccer Club, Carolina Core FC, Ironbound Soccer Club, Players Development Academy, and Triangle United Soccer Association."
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

BY or SY won't matter.

What will matter is if MLSN and GA can convince top players to join their academy teams.

NWSL just needs to implement a homegrown rule and everything will fall into place.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.
The best MLSN players are in MLS Academies and don't pay. Where would the money come from for the best players at GA to play for free?
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

That assumes there are feeder leagues at the younger ages that are BY. Otherwise the Q1, Q2 kids will have already lost out on the RAE lottery.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

That assumes there are feeder leagues at the younger ages that are BY. Otherwise the Q1, Q2 kids will have already lost out on the RAE lottery.

What do you think will happen next if both GA and MLSN stay BY?

They'll create their own youngers feeder leagues with member clubs to accommodate BY.

And all the big littles regional leagues will lose half their customers because they followered ECNL down the SY path.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

BY or SY won't matter.

What will matter is if MLSN and GA can convince top players to join their academy teams.

NWSL just needs to implement a homegrown rule and everything will fall into place.


A homegrown rule for weak GA clubs?
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A bunch of nonsense.

Nothing will come out of this.
Only teams that will benefit are teams with MLSN/GA
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works


Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.


Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.


Girls go pro out of ECNL now.


And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

BY or SY won't matter.

What will matter is if MLSN and GA can convince top players to join their academy teams.

NWSL just needs to implement a homegrown rule and everything will fall into place.


What about the USL-W (which DOES have teams seemingly associated with current NWSL clubs -- Racing Louisville and NC Courage, for example) and USL-Academy fit? Why not that pathway?
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting - PR says that top GA teams will be included in the 2025 Generation Adidas Cup as well as other showcase events...

Plus usually other blah, blah about coaching education, programming, etc.

IMO, not just a yawn, but not a seismic shift either.


It won’t happen overnight, but ECNL is doomed.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think anyone wants to play Womens pro soccer? That seems like a huge waste of time for no pay??


Why are you assuming no girls want to play pro? If given the chance do you think girls would decline? No.

It’s not just about going pro. Those that don’t go pro can still go to college. See how that works?

that’s how MLS Next works.

They can
A) go pro
B) Get recruited to college
C) 99% make up all the youth national teams

……I’ll let you connect the dots.


No dots to connect. If a new NWSL Next was focused on college they could compete with ECNL. They could draw those girls that want to go pro. But without the primary focus on college -- ECNL is fine. The boys side is just so different. You can't just repeat.

To answer your first question -- yes I do think if given the chance a lot of girls/women would decline going pro. And more than that, there parents would not support it. I am not talking about an obvious selection -- girl on national team -- I am sure there would be full support. But all of those non-obvious cases would not.


But you are not understanding.

MLS next clubs right … 1 player goes pro, the others play in college, because they attract the best talent around.

If GA goes NWSL route, they will have the best players right? 1 goes pro and the others have first dibs at the best colleges.



Will NWSL start taking girls in high school? MLS Next works because the lure is going pro instead of college. What percentage of NWSL players skip college? For girls, the path is college and then a very few go pro. The better route will be the league aligned with colleges, i.e. ecnl


If that’s the case then why didn’t mls form this alliance with ecnl…….


MLS is the enemy of ECNL on the boys side. They would never do anything together. For the girl's side ECNL does not need or want this.


Enemy of ECNL?
Why?

How is ECNL on the same level as MLS?


Because they are fighting for the same boys. ECNL is losing in the exact same way GA is losing on the girls. Not coke/pepsi but coke/rc cola. But that does not change the fact that they are at war.


They aren't fighting.
Boys choose MLS Next over ECNL if they're serious and talented.


SPOT ON.
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