Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?

[Anonymous]

Before applying ED, we looked at the NPC's. There were some decent differences between BU, Northeastern, NYU. You can also get a financial aid letter ahead of time.

But nothing was hidden and was relatively easy to obtain.

ED has a low barrier to entry with the biggest impediment being knowledge that an hour's worth of googling would supply.

[Anonymous]

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Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP, maybe I'll try saying it this way- Yes, you are at an advantage applying to any school if you are full pay. This applies across the board. And it is actually OK, at least for private schools, which comprise most of the schools with ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

You mean the top ranked schools that cater to more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

You mean the top ranked schools that cater to more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

You do understand that is because affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants, right? That being the whole part of their advantage? Not one person in this thread has claimed it is easier for a poor person to get into a top college. Not one. Stop strawman-ing, you have lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

PP here, and yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

You mean the top ranked schools that cater to more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

You do understand that is because affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants, right? That being the whole part of their advantage? Not one person in this thread has claimed it is easier for a poor person to get into a top college. Not one. Stop strawman-ing, you have lost.

Why do affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

You mean the top ranked schools that cater to more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

You do understand that is because affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants, right? That being the whole part of their advantage? Not one person in this thread has claimed it is easier for a poor person to get into a top college. Not one. Stop strawman-ing, you have lost.

Why do affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants?

Not PP, but because they have had access to the money necessary to pay for tutors, coaches, extracurriculars, college counselors, test prep, etc....
It doesn't mean they are better people, or better students. It just means they are better able to meet the bar set by college admissions. And no, it isn't based on merit.

Just facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you say, the opposite is true. Your agenda is misleading people and making them think ED isn’t a huge benefit for the rich. The trick to privilege is making it seem like there is no privilege. This seems to have struck a nerve.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I said being wealthy is an advantage to nearly everything, especially in college admissions.

But what is more important, and indisputable, is that ANY student can apply ED if the NPC says a number that they can afford.

You acknowledge the privilege and pivot to a technicality. Keep burying your head in the sand if it helps you sleep at night.

No pivot whatsoever. Been saying the same thing, over and over and over. Copy and pasted most times. Confident anyone reading it will see that and understand the point and not be misinformed.

Have a good day!

Copy and paste away, ED favors the rich and you know that.

Enjoy your privilege!

New poster here.

This seems like such a strange, and narrow, argument to be having. COLLEGE favors the rich. LIFE favors the rich. The entire application process favors the rich. Wealthy can spend money on their child's education and extracurriculars and college coaching all to give them an advantage over those that can't. The wealthy have their pick of any college, while the less wealthy do not.

Certainly, nobody should be applying ED to any school unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it. But ED processes are not the primary place, or even a place, where wealthy privilege manifests in a meaningful way.

Sorry, but no.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/business/early-decision-college-financial-aid/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-04/la-ed-early-decision-admissions-for-college-unfairly-favor-wealthy-students

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-early-decision-gives-wealthy-unfair-advantage-college-admissions-2022-12

PP here. I think I wasn't clear. As I said, nobody should be applying ED unless they know it is their top choice and they can afford it.
But where is the overall DISADVANTAGE to those that feel they maybe can't afford the school? They just don't choose ED.

Did you read the articles?

DP - seen those article many times. They generally do not specifically refer to need blind schools. At need aware schools full pay has a huge benefit whether you are ED or RD. Full pay ED at need aware is the absolute best shot any student has at admission.

The first article says lower income students were less likely to apply - the reason is the misunderstanding of the process, and many here in this thread are determined to see they continue to have the misunderstanding. The sad thing is the top ranked schools are the most generous with need based aid, and other than a few many of them offer ED, which is both a poor students best chance at admission as well as the chance to get the most need based aid.

Are these russian bots posting the opposite?

You mean the top ranked schools that cater to more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

You do understand that is because affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants, right? That being the whole part of their advantage? Not one person in this thread has claimed it is easier for a poor person to get into a top college. Not one. Stop strawman-ing, you have lost.

Why do affluent students have a much better chance at being good applicants?

Not PP, but because they have had access to the money necessary to pay for tutors, coaches, extracurriculars, college counselors, test prep, etc....
It doesn't mean they are better people, or better students. It just means they are better able to meet the bar set by college admissions. And no, it isn't based on merit.

Just facts.

Right, the process favors them. ED is just another example.

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Both things can be true: ANY student rich, poor, or middle can use ED to their advantage, but in reality, rich students are more likely to take advantage of the ED process for a number of reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both things can be true: ANY student rich, poor, or middle can use ED to their advantage, but in reality, rich students are more likely to take advantage of the ED process for a number of reasons.

The main reason being, as evidenced by this thread, misunderstanding of the process.