APS is failing my gifted child

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Anonymous wrote:APS is failing other parents' non-gifted kids, too. You're not special.

APS only job is to get kids to pass the SOLs. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

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Anonymous wrote:My gifted kids are in 2nd and 5th in APS. My mom has her masters degree in fired education and both my spouse and I were in traditional cohort tracked, pull out gifted programs in the 1980s. I like the gifted program in APS and I think it’s more equitable. Unless your kid is Doogie Houser, it can work for you too.

Get your 3rd grader on the upper elementary version of Dreambox and get signed up for the Parent Dashboard so you get weekly reports. Bring your kid’s iPad home and watch them do Dreambox. Check what lessons align with each standard and work with your teacher or math interventionist to assign your kid lessons.

Get your kid books that align with their reading level and make sure they get free reading time once they finish Lexia.

Find out what differentiation is available and how kids know where those assignments are. For us they are in Canvas and they are optional and my kids don’t choose them so we do them at home.

Just like a kid who is behind or has a learning disability, you need to be more involved. Try to do that without being “that parent” who created more work for everyone and you will likely get help from your school.

Ugh, not Dreambox and Lexia. Those programs move so slowly. They're the opposite of engaging for a gifted learner. No creativity or problem solving. Just basic spoonfed content that you have to wait for the program to read aloud to you at a snail's pace before you can click the answer.

Agreed all the iPad apps are garbage. These apps are just catatonic electronic babysitters and not learning tools. Dreambox is not learning how to do math. Lexia is just reading picture ebooks and doing meaningless activities. They need a teacher that actually understands gifted learning and not just regurgitates some secondhand pedagogy. My kids were something like 4-6 levels (or I think more, don't remember) above grade level lexile score in elementary. It's useless unless they can discuss the readings and write about it with a teacher and peers. Dreambox is also useless since there's no feedback and parents can't see what their kids are getting wrong. We did a lot of supplementing but why do 8 hours of what amounts to special ed at school then? They're entitled to an education appropriate to their level.

Dreambox has a parent dashboard and sends weekly emails that are pretty detailed about what your kid is working on and why. My spouse and I both have engineering degrees from top schools and we thing Dreambox has been great for allowing our kids to work 1-3 grade levels ahead of their class.

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

Still ranting about this and not understanding the difference between going to a top tier school and what a status-obsessed striver is, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:My gifted kids are in 2nd and 5th in APS. My mom has her masters degree in fired education and both my spouse and I were in traditional cohort tracked, pull out gifted programs in the 1980s. I like the gifted program in APS and I think it’s more equitable. Unless your kid is Doogie Houser, it can work for you too.

Get your 3rd grader on the upper elementary version of Dreambox and get signed up for the Parent Dashboard so you get weekly reports. Bring your kid’s iPad home and watch them do Dreambox. Check what lessons align with each standard and work with your teacher or math interventionist to assign your kid lessons.

Get your kid books that align with their reading level and make sure they get free reading time once they finish Lexia.

Find out what differentiation is available and how kids know where those assignments are. For us they are in Canvas and they are optional and my kids don’t choose them so we do them at home.

Just like a kid who is behind or has a learning disability, you need to be more involved. Try to do that without being “that parent” who created more work for everyone and you will likely get help from your school.

Ugh, not Dreambox and Lexia. Those programs move so slowly. They're the opposite of engaging for a gifted learner. No creativity or problem solving. Just basic spoonfed content that you have to wait for the program to read aloud to you at a snail's pace before you can click the answer.

Agreed all the iPad apps are garbage. These apps are just catatonic electronic babysitters and not learning tools. Dreambox is not learning how to do math. Lexia is just reading picture ebooks and doing meaningless activities. They need a teacher that actually understands gifted learning and not just regurgitates some secondhand pedagogy. My kids were something like 4-6 levels (or I think more, don't remember) above grade level lexile score in elementary. It's useless unless they can discuss the readings and write about it with a teacher and peers. Dreambox is also useless since there's no feedback and parents can't see what their kids are getting wrong. We did a lot of supplementing but why do 8 hours of what amounts to special ed at school then? They're entitled to an education appropriate to their level.

Dreambox has a parent dashboard and sends weekly emails that are pretty detailed about what your kid is working on and why. My spouse and I both have engineering degrees from top schools and we thing Dreambox has been great for allowing our kids to work 1-3 grade levels ahead of their class.

That’s only if your school ops in/activates those options in DreamBox, I believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

Still ranting about this and not understanding the difference between going to a top tier school and what a status-obsessed striver is, I see.

still obsessed i see, maybe let this thread get back to the topic at hand? and see a therapist about your obession and your lack of self worth

[Anonymous]

APS is really perfectly fine. If you've got a profoundly gifted kid, then I really do think that's on you to support them and not expect a public school to provide crazy accommodations. For kids who are just bright, like my own kids, APS has been great. The peers are great, the teachers are dedicated. You people haven't been parents of kids who go to school in a sh*tty district and it shows. Enrich your own kids FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:APS is really perfectly fine. If you've got a profoundly gifted kid, then I really do think that's on you to support them and not expect a public school to provide crazy accommodations. For kids who are just bright, like my own kids, APS has been great. The peers are great, the teachers are dedicated. You people haven't been parents of kids who go to school in a sh*tty district and it shows. Enrich your own kids FFS.

Slippery slope argument. Same could be said of every other group then: SPED, URM, girls, EL, athletes, etc. Why help anyone then except for your "bright" kids.... sure.

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Anonymous wrote:APS is really perfectly fine. If you've got a profoundly gifted kid, then I really do think that's on you to support them and not expect a public school to provide crazy accommodations. For kids who are just bright, like my own kids, APS has been great. The peers are great, the teachers are dedicated. You people haven't been parents of kids who go to school in a sh*tty district and it shows. Enrich your own kids FFS.

Slippery slope argument. Same could be said of every other group then: SPED, URM, girls, EL, athletes, etc. Why help anyone then except for your "bright" kids.... sure.

Dumb reply.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

Well, in some ways Andy was on point…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS is really perfectly fine. If you've got a profoundly gifted kid, then I really do think that's on you to support them and not expect a public school to provide crazy accommodations. For kids who are just bright, like my own kids, APS has been great. The peers are great, the teachers are dedicated. You people haven't been parents of kids who go to school in a sh*tty district and it shows. Enrich your own kids FFS.

Slippery slope argument. Same could be said of every other group then: SPED, URM, girls, EL, athletes, etc. Why help anyone then except for your "bright" kids.... sure.

Dumb reply.

"bright" parent, too. I see apple met the right tree.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS is really perfectly fine. If you've got a profoundly gifted kid, then I really do think that's on you to support them and not expect a public school to provide crazy accommodations. For kids who are just bright, like my own kids, APS has been great. The peers are great, the teachers are dedicated. You people haven't been parents of kids who go to school in a sh*tty district and it shows. Enrich your own kids FFS.

Slippery slope argument. Same could be said of every other group then: SPED, URM, girls, EL, athletes, etc. Why help anyone then except for your "bright" kids.... sure.

Dumb reply.

"bright" parent, too. I see apple met the right tree.

Salty because you’re dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

Well, in some ways Andy was on point…

you wouldn't know, because that's your only exposure to what you think Ivy League is.

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Anonymous wrote:Is OP saying they are at Taylor, or is that someone else responding?

Someone else I think. We are from Taylor but I’m like 90% sure most of the parents aren’t from Harvard… maybe some UVA but all I’ve met are from UmD and Penn State etc

How do you even know where the other parents in your kid's elementary school went to college? This comes up in casual conversation?

Status-obsessed strivers love to bring this stuff up in conversations.

You're wrong. I went to a status school, and I promise you I never bring it up. I often deflect even when asked directly.

This is VERY typical behavior by the way with people who went to my college.

No you didn't.

I’m a NP but come on. You’ve never noticed that when asked where they went to college, Harvard grads say “in Boston”? A lot more people deflect than you might think.

That person outed themselves as knowing no actual people who went to HYP or comparable schools, or else they would have known this. They just have pre conceived notions, probably based on Andy Barnard on the Office!

Well, in some ways Andy was on point…

you wouldn't know, because that's your only exposure to what you think Ivy League is.

This is exactly the kind of comeback a status-obsessed striver would make.