Simone Biles

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Anonymous wrote:Even though I sort of miss the more artistic and ballet oriented routines of the past (Romanian/Russian style), I like every single thing about Simone. Her personality, incredible talent, life story/family, always pure grace under pressure. She's a star like no other.

I used to feel this way, but those girls suffered so much physical and emotional abuse and look so frightened and malnourished compared to gymnasts of today. I love that this generation of gymnasts look like athletes and are no longer considered over the hill at 19.

It helps that US gymnastics is no longer centralized and run by the Karolyis. The Karolyis used to run all the national selection camps at their ranch (where the girls were starved), the national team for the Olympics, etc.

So the National training system still exists. The Karoyli ranch was shut down (And good riddance because it was a really terrible place for abariety of reasons) p The athletes are still expected to get together for training camps every month or so. I think there's a lot more flexibility for athletes who are in college and training at the collegiate level. It is led by two former elites, Chellsie Memmel and Alicia Sacramone and A coach named Dan Brown. Chellsie and Alicia have made it pretty clear that they're trying to create a training system that they wished that they had had when they were gymnasts and so they are doing a lot more to focus on good nutrition recovery and making sure things are athlete centered, which is why you pretty much never see Chellsie on camera.

Not like other countries. You still have to get yourself to the level where you can go to these camps and manage your expenses by yourself.

Not like some countries where they sort very young kids for body type and then fund their entire training and expenses. Why do you think China is do dominant in synchronized diving? Those divers were probably sorted and paired together as kids.

If you make the national team you get money to help travel to national tanning camps so not completely true.


I don't think the United States would ever have a centralized training program quite like China with boarding school. Bela and Marta certainly attempted to do this by pressuring so many athletes to train with them and move to Texas. But the monthly training camp was kind of a compromise because so many athletes were unwilling to relocate and train under them.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though I sort of miss the more artistic and ballet oriented routines of the past (Romanian/Russian style), I like every single thing about Simone. Her personality, incredible talent, life story/family, always pure grace under pressure. She's a star like no other.

I used to feel this way, but those girls suffered so much physical and emotional abuse and look so frightened and malnourished compared to gymnasts of today. I love that this generation of gymnasts look like athletes and are no longer considered over the hill at 19.

It helps that US gymnastics is no longer centralized and run by the Karolyis. The Karolyis used to run all the national selection camps at their ranch (where the girls were starved), the national team for the Olympics, etc.

So the National training system still exists. The Karoyli ranch was shut down (And good riddance because it was a really terrible place for abariety of reasons) p The athletes are still expected to get together for training camps every month or so. I think there's a lot more flexibility for athletes who are in college and training at the collegiate level. It is led by two former elites, Chellsie Memmel and Alicia Sacramone and A coach named Dan Brown. Chellsie and Alicia have made it pretty clear that they're trying to create a training system that they wished that they had had when they were gymnasts and so they are doing a lot more to focus on good nutrition recovery and making sure things are athlete centered, which is why you pretty much never see Chellsie on camera.

I think access to college programs for these elite gymnasts has been a huge success, as well. They get to feel like part of a team, train slightly less difficult routines, and be with people their age. It's so good mentally for them, can be full of joy, and fills those gaps between Olympic cycles.

I was sorry to hear that Suni didn't have a better experience at Auburn, but it sounds like Jordan really enjoyed UCLA.

College can be a great experience for some but not for everybody. A few other gymnasts have come out and talked about toxic training environments at LIU and Utah and UCLA had a lot of team drama. recently.

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Anonymous wrote:Going back to how outsiders pit the women against one another, I was so touched to read about Simone Biles giving Suni Lee a pep talk after she landed on her derrière and felt so discouraged she didn’t feel she could continue.

Simone’s encouragement got Suni back into the competition. Suni then asked Simone to stand next to the uneven bars while she was doing her event. Simone cheered her on helping Suni finish the competition.

The love and supportiveness between Simone and Suni shines bright in this story, but I’ve seen no one other than the NYT give any airspace to how their friendship and how they support one another.

Simone is the GOAT not only because she is a great gymnast but also because she is a phenomenal person whose compassion and kindness make her a true leader.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/29/world/olympics/suni-lee-gymnastics-kidney-disease.html?unlocked_article_code=1._k0.XiUU.F11OCP0D3ht_&smid=url-share

Simone has said in interviews that she didn't think she would have continued training in 2023 and 2024 without the support of her club teammates encouraging her. She really thrives In an environment where she kicked it can compete with a team and I think that shows and how much she has supported her teammates both at her club and at the national level.

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Anonymous wrote:I love watching the gymnastics and follow it during the year. I love the Olympics most of all. I am a huge Simone Biles fan.

But I am wondering what everybody else feels about the big fake eyelashes? (Track and field women wear them too). It just looks stupid to me.......... but am getting use to it.

What do you think?

I think you don't understand people different than you have different cultures and dress and style differently than you. You don't have to like every style every culture has.

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Which culture are the Kardashian lashes from? and don’t try to say Armenian.

I’m confused. Aren’t our Olympic athletes quite literally representing… the United States of America? Isn’t that our culture?

Sorry you're confused
But no, the culture in NYC is different than the culture in Austin, San Francisco, Duluth, Miami, Salt Lake City, Nashville just to name major cities so there is no confusion.
But all are American, just variations

Still not clear? Maybe we start by defining the word "culture" so we're on the same page

Yes. Do that. Also explain what it means to compete for the United States of America in international competition, as opposed to representing NYC or Miami or Duluth in national competition.

Do you think we have a single unified national culture where everyone does their hair and makeup the same way, regardless of age, ethnicity, and location? What are the official "USA" eye makeup and lash styles? When do younger generations get to have input on them?

I don’t care what she does with her lashes (although I do think they’re stupid looking) you’re the one who brought up “culture”.

(Since you’re obviously simple-minded: these ugly lashes and talon nails aren’t “muh culture!”, they’re just a trendy style preference. The “culture” which supports these dumb trends is our current US culture, or TikTok so maybe Chinese?, so really, WTH are you even talking about?)

I do agree with you, her lashes are not flattering. Pretty woman, she does not have to go to those extremes. That being said I’m getting a little sick of her. Next please.

Suni Lee won overcame her kidney disease that she thought was going to end her career and fought back win three medals at the Olympic medals (And she's still contending for one more in the beam finals) and you're mad about her fake eyelashes.... wow

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And Simone is a legend in the sport. She overcame being in foster care and experiencing sexual abuse to dominate the Olympic games and you're mad about her makeup like what the hell man

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Anonymous wrote:She is 4’8” That is the size of an average (50th percentile)prepubescent 10 yr old and even several inches shorter than the average high level gymnasts. But with the muscle development of a grown woman. Of course she would be able to get more rotations in and just about every event is easier, the shorter you are.

Are any of the other top gymnast that short?

The one I can think of offhand is Joscelyn Robertson who is around 4’8”. I think Jordan is like 4’11”. Most other gymnasts you see now are like in the 5 foot to 5’3” range.

Jocelyn look like a little person.

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Anonymous wrote:You know suni lee got all around gold in Tokyo and bikes dropped out? Wouldn’t know it from the ads or coverage.

Yeah, but Simone's scores and difficulty are always above Suni. Suni never beats Simone. Unless something goes wrong and Simone drops out or makes a huge mistake, Suni is competing for the Silver or Bronze in AA. She just doesn't have the difficulty level.

Are we counting the time Simone quit?

Pp. Mental health is serious. Tell us how many gold medals you have won before you critisize. The way they treated these young girls/women was criminal.

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Anonymous wrote:She is amazing but looks like she could kick my ass (and honestly could). Dominique Moceanu, on the other hand, could likely kick my ass even when she was competing/medaling at 14, but looked like a tiny angel.

And, honestly, good for her (SB). She showed the world that you don’t have to look like a tiny angel to be a great gymnast. She looks like an athlete.

Do the people who do the shooting events look like athletes? How about equestrian?

Not at all. Since they aren’t athletes.

Agreed. The horses are the athletes. The riders should do their own work.

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Anonymous wrote:I love watching the gymnastics and follow it during the year. I love the Olympics most of all. I am a huge Simone Biles fan.

But I am wondering what everybody else feels about the big fake eyelashes? (Track and field women wear them too). It just looks stupid to me.......... but am getting use to it.

What do you think?

I think you don't understand people different than you have different cultures and dress and style differently than you. You don't have to like every style every culture has.

Oh. (Looking you up and down)

Which culture are the Kardashian lashes from? and don’t try to say Armenian.

I’m confused. Aren’t our Olympic athletes quite literally representing… the United States of America? Isn’t that our culture?

Sorry you're confused
But no, the culture in NYC is different than the culture in Austin, San Francisco, Duluth, Miami, Salt Lake City, Nashville just to name major cities so there is no confusion.
But all are American, just variations

Still not clear? Maybe we start by defining the word "culture" so we're on the same page

Yes. Do that. Also explain what it means to compete for the United States of America in international competition, as opposed to representing NYC or Miami or Duluth in national competition.

Do you think we have a single unified national culture where everyone does their hair and makeup the same way, regardless of age, ethnicity, and location? What are the official "USA" eye makeup and lash styles? When do younger generations get to have input on them?

I don’t care what she does with her lashes (although I do think they’re stupid looking) you’re the one who brought up “culture”.

(Since you’re obviously simple-minded: these ugly lashes and talon nails aren’t “muh culture!”, they’re just a trendy style preference. The “culture” which supports these dumb trends is our current US culture, or TikTok so maybe Chinese?, so really, WTH are you even talking about?)

She didn't bring up culture, she's responding to your response to me. I didn't bring it up either. I think you are the simple minded one blathering on about the look of these gymnasts just because it's not your preference .

The rest of what you wrote sounds like nonsense. I can guess what's prompting your tirade. So sad you don't get to see gymnasts whose look you like.

Okay. You’re continually responding to a sub thread in which someone said she wears fake lashes because it’s her culture, as though you are that person.

You’re still a moron. Fake lashes and talon nails aren’t a product of a different culture. Particularly for a team all representing one culture.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are on this thread complaining about anyone’s looks in representation of the US

Screw off you racist pigs

We are the United States of America we are not some racist shit hole like MAGA wants.

I love that this comes from the Bible thumping crowd throw out those bibles you never read them

Clearly she has grace unlike the MAGA cult

Trump supporters are not racist. Please get some professional help. You are what is hurting this country.

Sorry, do only Trump supporters think this over the top makeup and nails trend looks dumb?

I guess I’ll have to rethink who I’m planning to vote for…

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the muscular gymnasts of today do as well on balance beam as the leaner gymnasts who still had incredible strength from the 80s and 90s. The flexibility and balance seemed better. It was more graceful. And these gymnasts were not underweight.

Many of the "graceful" gymnasts in the 80s and 90s were starved.

There are still graceful gymnasts who aren’t starved at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I love watching the gymnastics and follow it during the year. I love the Olympics most of all. I am a huge Simone Biles fan.

But I am wondering what everybody else feels about the big fake eyelashes? (Track and field women wear them too). It just looks stupid to me.......... but am getting use to it.

What do you think?

I think you don't understand people different than you have different cultures and dress and style differently than you. You don't have to like every style every culture has.

Oh. (Looking you up and down)

Which culture are the Kardashian lashes from? and don’t try to say Armenian.

I’m confused. Aren’t our Olympic athletes quite literally representing… the United States of America? Isn’t that our culture?

Sorry you're confused
But no, the culture in NYC is different than the culture in Austin, San Francisco, Duluth, Miami, Salt Lake City, Nashville just to name major cities so there is no confusion.
But all are American, just variations

Still not clear? Maybe we start by defining the word "culture" so we're on the same page

Yes. Do that. Also explain what it means to compete for the United States of America in international competition, as opposed to representing NYC or Miami or Duluth in national competition.

Do you think we have a single unified national culture where everyone does their hair and makeup the same way, regardless of age, ethnicity, and location? What are the official "USA" eye makeup and lash styles? When do younger generations get to have input on them?

I don’t care what she does with her lashes (although I do think they’re stupid looking) you’re the one who brought up “culture”.

(Since you’re obviously simple-minded: these ugly lashes and talon nails aren’t “muh culture!”, they’re just a trendy style preference. The “culture” which supports these dumb trends is our current US culture, or TikTok so maybe Chinese?, so really, WTH are you even talking about?)

She didn't bring up culture, she's responding to your response to me. I didn't bring it up either. I think you are the simple minded one blathering on about the look of these gymnasts just because it's not your preference .

The rest of what you wrote sounds like nonsense. I can guess what's prompting your tirade. So sad you don't get to see gymnasts whose look you like.

Okay. You’re continually responding to a sub thread in which someone said she wears fake lashes because it’s her culture, as though you are that person.

You’re still a moron. Fake lashes and talon nails aren’t a product of a different culture. Particularly for a team all representing one culture.

What culture wears heavy set lashes that have an unattractive curl?

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Anonymous wrote:I love watching the gymnastics and follow it during the year. I love the Olympics most of all. I am a huge Simone Biles fan.

But I am wondering what everybody else feels about the big fake eyelashes? (Track and field women wear them too). It just looks stupid to me.......... but am getting use to it.

What do you think?

I think you don't understand people different than you have different cultures and dress and style differently than you. You don't have to like every style every culture has.

Or it could be that some of us just don't get having all that kind of makeup and jewelry on when you are playing sports. I feel the same way when I see jewelry and makeup on any athletes regardless of culture. That would drive me nuts!

I mean if you're going to have a video camera up in your face constantly, maybe you would feel more comfortable wearing makeup. There are lots of athletes that don't really wear makeup. I don't think Jade Carey wears anything.

Jade absolutely does wear makeup. She has on a face of full coverage foundation, etc. It's just well done and thus subtle.

Jay did a little video about what's in her gym bag and she only wears mascara, blush and pink lip gloss She must have a really good skin care regimen.

Or she’s just in her early 20s and never suffered from acne! My skin looked like hers when I was 23. Now I have wrinkles and bags under my eyes more so than others since my skin runs dry.

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Beam is quite a scene this morning

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Anonymous wrote:Beam is quite a scene this morning

Everyone fell off at the same spot, too. And Simone was furious. She was talking furiously and her coach was trying to shush her. She seemed to be complaining about something that happened as soon as she started her pass. I kept rewinding to hear what she was saying but I couldn’t make it out. Suni responded “I know, are they telling them to do that?” or something. I wonder what was happening at that end of the beam.