Republicans are revving up for a D.C. smackdown

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.

We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.

It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.

lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.

+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.

Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.

Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.

+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.

Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.

Do you hear yourself? Outsiders who don’t like the way a locality votes to govern itself should be ruled over by people who don’t live there? In the USA you think that is ok?

Since this is a parenting forum, think of it in parenting terms. Maybe you let the kids wear whatever clothes they want, to a certain degree. But there comes a point where the adult has to say "no, you can't wear that." DC needs a parent to stop them from wearing something inappropriate. DC's response so far has been "but Mom, other kids are wearing this too!" Which is exactly the response you get from a teen that wants more control than they can handle.

To add more flavor to this analogy, DC has been in Juvie and the Foster care system (appointed mayors + control board), so they don't have a long record of making good decisions on their own. Is it really good parenting to let DC just get stoned and commit crimes all day? Someone has to step in and stop them, because they certainly can't help themselves.

Yeah, that's weird. DC residents as kids, and Congressmembers as their parents? Weird. And creepy, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.

We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.

It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.

lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.

+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.

Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.

Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.

+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.

Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.

Do you hear yourself? Outsiders who don’t like the way a locality votes to govern itself should be ruled over by people who don’t live there? In the USA you think that is ok?

Since this is a parenting forum, think of it in parenting terms. Maybe you let the kids wear whatever clothes they want, to a certain degree. But there comes a point where the adult has to say "no, you can't wear that." DC needs a parent to stop them from wearing something inappropriate. DC's response so far has been "but Mom, other kids are wearing this too!" Which is exactly the response you get from a teen that wants more control than they can handle.

To add more flavor to this analogy, DC has been in Juvie and the Foster care system (appointed mayors + control board), so they don't have a long record of making good decisions on their own. Is it really good parenting to let DC just get stoned and commit crimes all day? Someone has to step in and stop them, because they certainly can't help themselves.

To be clear, you don't like how DC citizens vote, so you want to override them with your own personal views like a dictator. You are free to move, but instead you just prefer to implement your views against the will of DC voters. This is what you are saying over and over again repeatedly. Maybe you should adopt your writings into your own personal Mein Kampf?

These types of histrionics are exactly why DC is in the state its in. Posts like these are practically begging an adult to come in and take over.

Democracy was never meant for people who can't rule themselves:


DC was long and successfully ruled by appointed Mayors with a dash of Control Board thrown in. Its time to take the car keys from the rebellious teens, they are grounded.

If they want to run a city into the ground, they can do that in a city that's not also the Nation's Capital.

Imagine using John Adams's opinion in favor of self-rule to argue against self-rule.


To the Officers of the <, Start deletion,third, End,> first Brigade of the third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts

Quincy October 11. 1798

Gentlemen

I have received from Major General Hull and Brigadier General Walker your unanimous Address from Lexington, animated with a martial Spirit and expressed with a military Dignity, becoming your Characters and the <, Start deletion,Place, End,> memorable Plains, in which it was adopted.

While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <, Start deletion,and, End,> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

An Address so unanimous and firm from the officers commanding two thousand Eight hundred Men, consisting of such substantial Citizens as are able and willing at their own Expence, compleatly to arm, And cloath themselves in handsome Uniforms does honor to that Division of the Militia which has done so much honor to their Country. Oaths, in this Country, are as yet universally considered as Sacred Obligations. That which you have taken and so solemnly repeated on that venerable Spot is an ample Pledge of your sincerity, and devotion to your Country and its Government.

John Adams

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-3102

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.

We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.

It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.

lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.

+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.

Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.

Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.

+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.

Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.

Do you hear yourself? Outsiders who don’t like the way a locality votes to govern itself should be ruled over by people who don’t live there? In the USA you think that is ok?

Since this is a parenting forum, think of it in parenting terms. Maybe you let the kids wear whatever clothes they want, to a certain degree. But there comes a point where the adult has to say "no, you can't wear that." DC needs a parent to stop them from wearing something inappropriate. DC's response so far has been "but Mom, other kids are wearing this too!" Which is exactly the response you get from a teen that wants more control than they can handle.

To add more flavor to this analogy, DC has been in Juvie and the Foster care system (appointed mayors + control board), so they don't have a long record of making good decisions on their own. Is it really good parenting to let DC just get stoned and commit crimes all day? Someone has to step in and stop them, because they certainly can't help themselves.

To be clear, you don't like how DC citizens vote, so you want to override them with your own personal views like a dictator. You are free to move, but instead you just prefer to implement your views against the will of DC voters. This is what you are saying over and over again repeatedly. Maybe you should adopt your writings into your own personal Mein Kampf?

These types of histrionics are exactly why DC is in the state its in. Posts like these are practically begging an adult to come in and take over.

Democracy was never meant for people who can't rule themselves:


DC was long and successfully ruled by appointed Mayors with a dash of Control Board thrown in. Its time to take the car keys from the rebellious teens, they are grounded.

If they want to run a city into the ground, they can do that in a city that's not also the Nation's Capital.

Imagine using John Adams's opinion in favor of self-rule to argue against self-rule.


To the Officers of the <, Start deletion,third, End,> first Brigade of the third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts

Quincy October 11. 1798

Gentlemen

I have received from Major General Hull and Brigadier General Walker your unanimous Address from Lexington, animated with a martial Spirit and expressed with a military Dignity, becoming your Characters and the <, Start deletion,Place, End,> memorable Plains, in which it was adopted.

While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <, Start deletion,and, End,> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

An Address so unanimous and firm from the officers commanding two thousand Eight hundred Men, consisting of such substantial Citizens as are able and willing at their own Expence, compleatly to arm, And cloath themselves in handsome Uniforms does honor to that Division of the Militia which has done so much honor to their Country. Oaths, in this Country, are as yet universally considered as Sacred Obligations. That which you have taken and so solemnly repeated on that venerable Spot is an ample Pledge of your sincerity, and devotion to your Country and its Government.

John Adams

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-3102

John Adams had no problem appointing the Land Commissioners who ran DC during his time as VP and President.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.

We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.

It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.

lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.

+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.

Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.

Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.

+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.

Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.

Do you hear yourself? Outsiders who don’t like the way a locality votes to govern itself should be ruled over by people who don’t live there? In the USA you think that is ok?

Since this is a parenting forum, think of it in parenting terms. Maybe you let the kids wear whatever clothes they want, to a certain degree. But there comes a point where the adult has to say "no, you can't wear that." DC needs a parent to stop them from wearing something inappropriate. DC's response so far has been "but Mom, other kids are wearing this too!" Which is exactly the response you get from a teen that wants more control than they can handle.

To add more flavor to this analogy, DC has been in Juvie and the Foster care system (appointed mayors + control board), so they don't have a long record of making good decisions on their own. Is it really good parenting to let DC just get stoned and commit crimes all day? Someone has to step in and stop them, because they certainly can't help themselves.

To be clear, you don't like how DC citizens vote, so you want to override them with your own personal views like a dictator. You are free to move, but instead you just prefer to implement your views against the will of DC voters. This is what you are saying over and over again repeatedly. Maybe you should adopt your writings into your own personal Mein Kampf?

These types of histrionics are exactly why DC is in the state its in. Posts like these are practically begging an adult to come in and take over.

Democracy was never meant for people who can't rule themselves:


DC was long and successfully ruled by appointed Mayors with a dash of Control Board thrown in. Its time to take the car keys from the rebellious teens, they are grounded.

If they want to run a city into the ground, they can do that in a city that's not also the Nation's Capital.

Imagine using John Adams's opinion in favor of self-rule to argue against self-rule.


To the Officers of the <, Start deletion,third, End,> first Brigade of the third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts

Quincy October 11. 1798

Gentlemen

I have received from Major General Hull and Brigadier General Walker your unanimous Address from Lexington, animated with a martial Spirit and expressed with a military Dignity, becoming your Characters and the <, Start deletion,Place, End,> memorable Plains, in which it was adopted.

While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <, Start deletion,and, End,> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

An Address so unanimous and firm from the officers commanding two thousand Eight hundred Men, consisting of such substantial Citizens as are able and willing at their own Expence, compleatly to arm, And cloath themselves in handsome Uniforms does honor to that Division of the Militia which has done so much honor to their Country. Oaths, in this Country, are as yet universally considered as Sacred Obligations. That which you have taken and so solemnly repeated on that venerable Spot is an ample Pledge of your sincerity, and devotion to your Country and its Government.

John Adams

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-3102

John Adams had no problem appointing the Land Commissioners who ran DC during his time as VP and President.

John Adams also had no problem denying his wife the vote. So what?

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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe

What are you talking about? "Dems" don't have a bad name.

If you'd like your streets to be clean, quiet, and safe, then you should support automated traffic enforcement (including red light cameras) and No Turn On Red.

+1 it's a troll pretending to be a democrat...

And repeatedly not commenting on the risk of losing abortion/contraception rights for women in DC with GOP control. Nope, not a democrat.

We won’t lose the rights don’t worry. But stand to gain no ATVs no corruption no ANC no pot smell no income tax etc

We’ve heard “don’t worry “ before…

It is FEDERAL not STATE decided in that case. So we are good. Not that I care if you give me no income tax

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Retrocession to Md.

DC will never be a state.

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Anonymous wrote:Retrocession to Md.

DC will never be a state.

Speaking of things that will never happen: retrocession to Md. will never happen. DC residents don't want it, and Maryland residents don't want it.

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I hate GOP. But I viscerally hate the Council with the exception of Pinto and what DC has become under them much more. I would vote in a heartbeat to get rid of them

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Anonymous wrote:Retrocession to Md.

DC will never be a state.

Speaking of things that will never happen: retrocession to Md. will never happen. DC residents don't want it, and Maryland residents don't want it.

I agree. We should be federalized. Live off the government, stop spending money on the local government, clean up the city, watch the real estate values soar and sit back to enjoy

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Anonymous wrote:Retrocession to Md.

DC will never be a state.

Speaking of things that will never happen: retrocession to Md. will never happen. DC residents don't want it, and Maryland residents don't want it.

I agree. We should be federalized. Live off the government, stop spending money on the local government, clean up the city, watch the real estate values soar and sit back to enjoy

You really hate self-determination and democracy, I guess.

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I hate the Mendo-Allen North Korea job for life corrupt for me but not for thee brand of “democracy”

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the Mendo-Allen North Korea job for life corrupt for me but not for thee brand of “democracy”

It's democracy even when the voters elect candidates you hate. When you want to get rid of democracy because the voters elect candidates you hate, that's hating democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the Mendo-Allen North Korea job for life corrupt for me but not for thee brand of “democracy”

You want Mendo and Allen out? Find better candidates to run against them and work hard so those candidates win. Just deciding you don't like the incumbents and can't be bothered to try to defeat them, then asking for Congress to step in and wipe out everyone else's vote, makes you not only antidemocratic but also lazy.

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I’d far prefer they lose their jobs forever

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Anonymous wrote:I’d far prefer they lose their jobs forever

But, as the PP said, you're not willing to do the work.