fcps family life education

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Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

A survey is a scientific instrument that determines information about a population. There was no such thing. There was a Google Form that certain candidates for school board worked to be spammed nationally. Sure, there were some responses from within the county. Most of the responses to the open-access Google Form that you are calling a survey came from outside Fairfax County.

Explain how spammers allegedly accessed the student’s and staff’s accounts because their responses, which overwhelmingly opposed the proposed changes, were done through the secured laptops issued by the county, and NO ONE other than the students and staff had accessed to their devices. The fact of the matter is that your theory falls apart because students and staff comprised 2/3 of the input, proving that there was not such outside intrusion.

You are making stuff up. The survey form was an open form on the FCPS website. Anyone and everyone could access it. And they did. Stop lying.

I don’t know about you, but my child accessed the survey via the school issued laptop, as did other kids in the class. And, you must not be familiar with FCPS, but there are plenty of kids whose only access to a computer is the one issued by the county, which is supposed to be protected against hacking - which is what you are implying happened in this case. Same with school staff who participated in the survey. As for the parents, I used my own device to provide my input once. And, I trust that others did the same. It might be hard for you to believe it, but not everyone is in the business of rigging outcomes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

THIS^^^^

Pilot one "opt in" coed class per school with informed consent that the parents must sign that details the topics that will be taught in the grade.

Also include that the teacher will possibly be the opposite sex of the child, so gorls might be taught menstruation and nocturnal emissions from Mr. Frank the PE teacher.

Then keep track of how many parents opt their kids into the coed class.

I suspect the number of parents choosing coed over single sex/traditional gender will be close to zero.

Those who want to kill sex education in schools always push for the "opt in." It is an argument that sounds reasonable, but is intended to undermine the education of our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

The people pushing coed sex ed don't have kids in fcps so tgeir focus is entirely a political agenda, not anything kid centric.

Both my kids have had coed sex ed in church. Neither had a problem with it. There were great conversations in class, and they learned a lot.
Alexandria has been doing coed sex ed for years with no problems.
Maybe your kids are giving you the answer you want or maybe it is the sex ed part that they don't like, not the coed part. I didn't think I'd like olives, but it turns out I do--hypitheticals are.not fact.

Okay, but my heathen children would be mortified by coed sex ed. And other children of conservative faith would be mortified. Why should your church-going children be the determining children, rather than other children?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

THIS^^^^

Pilot one "opt in" coed class per school with informed consent that the parents must sign that details the topics that will be taught in the grade.

Also include that the teacher will possibly be the opposite sex of the child, so gorls might be taught menstruation and nocturnal emissions from Mr. Frank the PE teacher.

Then keep track of how many parents opt their kids into the coed class.

I suspect the number of parents choosing coed over single sex/traditional gender will be close to zero.

Those who want to kill sex education in schools always push for the "opt in." It is an argument that sounds reasonable, but is intended to undermine the education of our kids.

Not opt-in sex ed. Opt-in coed sex ed. And default separated sex ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know when the school board is voting on family life education? I saw something about a survey in a school email.

Apparently it’s tonight. This article will help with understanding better what is at stake:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/3057122/fairfax-county-public-schools-leadership-defy-parents-sex-education-program/

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I'm a FCPS teacher who has a kid in a neighboring district. My kid's sex ed was done coed in a group led by a male and a female teacher. It was fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a FCPS teacher who has a kid in a neighboring district. My kid's sex ed was done coed in a group led by a male and a female teacher. It was fine.

What grade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

The people pushing coed sex ed don't have kids in fcps so tgeir focus is entirely a political agenda, not anything kid centric.

Both my kids have had coed sex ed in church. Neither had a problem with it. There were great conversations in class, and they learned a lot.
Alexandria has been doing coed sex ed for years with no problems.
Maybe your kids are giving you the answer you want or maybe it is the sex ed part that they don't like, not the coed part. I didn't think I'd like olives, but it turns out I do--hypitheticals are.not fact.

Coed Sex Ed in church is probably very different than coed sex ed in a random elementary school classroom. For one thing, these are children whose parents make them go to church. That is a form of self selection - these children are more likely to be well behaved and respectful than your average ES-aged boy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a FCPS teacher who has a kid in a neighboring district. My kid's sex ed was done coed in a group led by a male and a female teacher. It was fine.

What grade?

I’m wondering the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

In the survey last year, the kids had a far higher response against coed sex ed than the parents and teachers.

the kids do not want combined sex ed

We need to quit letting creeps and predators like this poster from getting so much control over our kids and public school.

What a nasty comment. You are also wrong. It was kids and parents who asked for this. The survey results were unfortunately overwhelmed by folks who didn't want FLE in school at all. There is no way to tell if the "students" who responded were actually students, so your statement is meaningless.

I think almost all of the comments in support of co-ed sex ed in this thread are from one of the members of the FLECAC committee. Her initials are VH (a member of the extremely liberal "congregation" that has co-ed sex-ed). When anyone includes her name in a post, it seems to disappear. She is quoted in this article. https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-board-fcps-gender-identity-sex-education-class-elementary-middle-school-students-vote-7th-graders-parents-family-life-education-curriculum-advisory-committee#

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous

If you don’t like family life curriculum put your kid in a religious private and shut up.

You want your kid to get pregnant early have at it.

No you will not stop the rest of US

You realize most parents do talk to their kids about sex and reproduction at an age appropriate time, right? They do so by speaking to them with the facts of biology, and according to their own boundaries for each child. They rarely outsource this to third parties, such as the school system. They also speak with them with the facts, and that’s why they end up making the right choices. Of course, once you have children of your own you’ll understand that.

On the contrary, the proposed FCPS changes to the FLE program will confuse some children in that it will teach them that men have periods and can get pregnant.

That is not what the lessons will teach. You are misinformed, which is not too shocking based on your post.

FCPS has already replaced the definition of women and men with terminology created by radical gender ideology: person assigned (arbitrarily) as female or male at birth, and has been using it for a couple of years already. Parents just haven’t been paying attention.

Therefore, how can anyone ascertain that FCPS will be teaching unequivocally to kids what a woman is? They obviously won’t because their definition of a woman is based on feelings, and not in facts. Therefore, according to their ideology, if a woman identifies as a man - and ends up getting pregnant - it fits FCPS agenda to teach that men can have periods and get pregnant.

I second you in that misinformation (and ignorance) can be shocking.

They have not replaced the definition of women and men. They discuss male and female reproductive systems, reproduction, etc. They also talk about sexual identity and how that may change for some people over time. In the curriculum, it says that if a student has a question an out their own sexual identity, they should talk to a parent, doctor or trusted clergy. To be sure, if a person who identifies as a male has a uterus, they can get pregnant. How are you going to explain that to your child if you don’t teach them about sexual identity?

FCPS adopted the FLECAC recommendations to strike biological sex/gender and replace with sex assigned at birth during the school year 2017-2018, and has been using it in official communication with the parents for a while. You either don’t have any children in FCPS, or you haven’t been paying attention.

Check out recommendation 8.5, page 3, and the outcome of the vote from the FCPS document below. More importantly, read Appendix B, beginning at page 16, titled ADDITIONAL STATEMENT FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE DISSENTING FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS with information on how these decisions are made and how the input of the overall community is ignored:
https://www.washingtonblade.com/content/files/2018/06/FLECAC-Annual-Recommendations-Report-2017_18_051018g.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

A survey is a scientific instrument that determines information about a population. There was no such thing. There was a Google Form that certain candidates for school board worked to be spammed nationally. Sure, there were some responses from within the county. Most of the responses to the open-access Google Form that you are calling a survey came from outside Fairfax County.

Explain how spammers allegedly accessed the student’s and staff’s accounts because their responses, which overwhelmingly opposed the proposed changes, were done through the secured laptops issued by the county, and NO ONE other than the students and staff had accessed to their devices. The fact of the matter is that your theory falls apart because students and staff comprised 2/3 of the input, proving that there was not such outside intrusion.

You are making stuff up. The survey form was an open form on the FCPS website. Anyone and everyone could access it. And they did. Stop lying.

I don’t know about you, but my child accessed the survey via the school issued laptop, as did other kids in the class. And, you must not be familiar with FCPS, but there are plenty of kids whose only access to a computer is the one issued by the county, which is supposed to be protected against hacking - which is what you are implying happened in this case. Same with school staff who participated in the survey. As for the parents, I used my own device to provide my input once. And, I trust that others did the same. It might be hard for you to believe it, but not everyone is in the business of rigging outcomes.

Honey. You are confused. Kids access the Fairfax Department of Health survey IN school on their school laptops. The adults in the room are talking about the FCPS survey from over a year ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

THIS^^^^

Pilot one "opt in" coed class per school with informed consent that the parents must sign that details the topics that will be taught in the grade.

Also include that the teacher will possibly be the opposite sex of the child, so gorls might be taught menstruation and nocturnal emissions from Mr. Frank the PE teacher.

Then keep track of how many parents opt their kids into the coed class.

I suspect the number of parents choosing coed over single sex/traditional gender will be close to zero.

Those who want to kill sex education in schools always push for the "opt in." It is an argument that sounds reasonable, but is intended to undermine the education of our kids.

No. Opt-In, as done in Europe, requires informed consent. Opt-out is used as a means of convenience and to bury transparency. Look at the practices of FLECAC. All their meetings are in person and they are not recorded and posted on board docs.

[Anonymous]

Last night they put off voting on the ideology piece.

The pilot program for coed is happening. Are the schools listed anywhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

THIS^^^^

Pilot one "opt in" coed class per school with informed consent that the parents must sign that details the topics that will be taught in the grade.

Also include that the teacher will possibly be the opposite sex of the child, so gorls might be taught menstruation and nocturnal emissions from Mr. Frank the PE teacher.

Then keep track of how many parents opt their kids into the coed class.

I suspect the number of parents choosing coed over single sex/traditional gender will be close to zero.

Those who want to kill sex education in schools always push for the "opt in." It is an argument that sounds reasonable, but is intended to undermine the education of our kids.

No. Opt-In, as done in Europe, requires informed consent. Opt-out is used as a means of convenience and to bury transparency. Look at the practices of FLECAC. All their meetings are in person and they are not recorded and posted on board docs.

+1. Thank you!