study shows how 42M recipients spend their food stamps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

[Anonymous]

I’d be ok with SNAP prohibiting soda, candy and chips. But ”ultraprocessed” is too broad a category. Love it or hate it, many families survive on boxed mac & cheese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

Maybe the healthy food needs to come first. Healthy foods, healthy minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

Maybe the healthy food needs to come first. Healthy foods, healthy minds.

They literally don’t.
That’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

Maybe the healthy food needs to come first. Healthy foods, healthy minds.

Now you’re being a clown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

But Democrats are supporting store looting. Reducing crime is counterproductive to their goal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

Maybe the healthy food needs to come first. Healthy foods, healthy minds.

They literally don’t.
That’s ridiculous.

Just admit you hate poor people.

People commit crime because something is lacking. You fix it by ensuring people have what they need. You've got this whole thing backwards.

[Anonymous]

SNAP is not a nutrition program and it is not an HHS program. It is a USDA program with policy details determined by the House and Senate Agriculture committees. The program is set up to pay retail prices for brand name products at supermarkets because that is the way the corporate food industry wants it. If Congress wants to help poor people, they have to make sure the money goes to corporations. That’s the only way to get social assistance programs through Congress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Junk food is cheap. Healthy food is expensive. Work from there.

Chips and soda are not cheap! Frozen pizzas are not cheap! What junk food do you think is cheap?

Exactly. Growing up, we couldn’t afford that stuff.

+1
My parents were quite poor when I was a young kid and we never had any of this stuff in the house.

In the 90s they started having a little extra money and that is when they started drinking soda and eating Snackwells and getting fat.

There are plenty of cheap healthy foods. And does not take much time to peel and slice a couple of carrots or cook some oatmeal. People just don’t wanna and our society is getting weaker and less healthy. Time to cut off the supply, IMO.

^^ all of this.

Why does the fed gov allow this to happen? It’s really not right at all. I am all for helping people (especially disabled people and families with kids) get food. It’s something we should do, no one should be hungry in our country. But this is a travesty. This program actually harms people.

We’re paying government to kill off citizens.

“Study: Foods like ice cream, chips and candy are just as addictive as cigarettes or heroin

An analysis of 281 studies in 36 countries, published in the British Medical Journal this month, found that your inability to put down the ice cream, chips and candy may have less to do with your self-control and more to do with the addictive quality of ultra-processed foods or UPFs.


“The combination of refined carbohydrates and fats often found in UPFs seems to have a supra-additive effect on brain reward systems, above either macronutrient alone, which may increase the addictive potential of these foods,” the study said.

Using the same guidelines for measuring substance abuse, the researchers found that 14% of adults and 12% of children were addicted to ultra-processed foods.“
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/10/23/study-ice-cream-chips-addictive-cigarettes-heroin-drugs/71286591007/

So leftists think taking taxpayer money and trying to provide food for poor people and families but instead getting them addicted to food with zero nutritional value and making them fat and sick and eventually killing them is progressive?

This is how Democrats create illness and disease among America’s poorest people. They should be ashamed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

I think you may not be aware of who SNAP recipients are.

The greatest percentage of SNAP recipients are in rural areas and small towns.

And yes, almost 50% are non-Hispanic whites. Then about a quarter are Hispanic and a quarter black.

Not a lot of grocery stores being built in rural and small town America and it’s not because of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe people are defending this.

No one is defending it. Just saying it’s tough to eat better when you don’t have easy access to healthy food.

Democrats are trying to address food deserts.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1230

“Food Deserts Act

This bill establishes a grant program within the Department of Agriculture to reduce food deserts. Under the program, grants are provided to states for revolving funds that support the establishment and operation of grocery stores in underserved communities. Underserved communities are communities that have (1) limited access to affordable, healthy foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, in grocery retail stores or farmer-to-consumer direct markets; and (2) a high rate of hunger, a high rate of food insecurity, or a high poverty rate.

The bill requires states to use such funds for loans that support grocery stores in underserved communities, including for opening a store (excluding new construction), or supporting an existing store.

In order to qualify for loans, grocery stores must meet criteria enumerated in the bill. For example, grocery stores must (1) emphasize unprocessed, healthful foods; (2) provide staple foods and a variety of raw fruits and vegetables; and (3) charge affordable prices at or below market values.

Further, states must prioritize loan applications from entities that meet criteria related to

hiring workers from the underserved community,
providing classes or educational information about a healthful diet,
sourcing food from local urban farms and gardens, or
demonstrating existing supply chain relationships or expertise in the grocery industry.“

Sounds nice but nobody wants to put a grocery store in a high crime area. Tackle the crime and the stores will return.

Maybe the healthy food needs to come first. Healthy foods, healthy minds.

They literally don’t.
That’s ridiculous.

Just admit you hate poor people.

People commit crime because something is lacking. You fix it by ensuring people have what they need. You've got this whole thing backwards.

Please join us in the real world, where a for profit business can’t be robbed blind for a generation waiting for “good nutrients” to work their magic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

[Anonymous]

The foods killing poor people are the same foods killing everyone else.
We need a food industry intervention.
Our food is killing us.