OJ simpson Died

[Anonymous]

With or without Mark Fuhrman the VICTIMS: Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson would STILL BE DEAD.

The fact that you are shifting the blame for their murders on the investigation shows how sick and perverted you are, nothing else.

The reason that OJ was found not guilty is because

IT WAS MARK FUHRMAN WHO DROVE A REASONABLE DOUBT MACK TRUCK THROUGH THAT CASE BECAUSE HE WAS A RACIST POS.

He literally plead the fifth during the trial of the century!

If you wanted OJ convicted then the LAPD failed you. Not the jurors. Not the prosecution. Not the defense. Not the judge.

Direct your ire and fury accordingly and you might be surprised in who is standing next to you. Hey you might even join with them and honor the true victims by preventing similar injustices from reoccurring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With or without Mark Fuhrman the VICTIMS: Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson would STILL BE DEAD.

The fact that you are shifting the blame for their murders on the investigation shows how sick and perverted you are, nothing else.

The reason that OJ was found not guilty is because

IT WAS MARK FUHRMAN WHO DROVE A REASONABLE DOUBT MACK TRUCK THROUGH THAT CASE BECAUSE HE WAS A RACIST POS.

He literally plead the fifth during the trial of the century!

If you wanted OJ convicted then the LAPD failed you. Not the jurors. Not the prosecution. Not the defense. Not the judge.

Direct your ire and fury accordingly and you might be surprised in who is standing next to you. Hey you might even join with them and honor the true victims by preventing similar injustices from reoccurring.

Dear lord, Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson would still be dead!!!!

Who killed them? Was it Ron Furhnan or the anyone else on the LAPD??? Or was it a boogeyman?

Now that he’s dead, maybe you can be a good little soldier and help OJ find the real killer.

I direct my ire at idiots who refuse to see the forest for the trees. Between your messed up background and your, in your case, education, you’ve lost all touch with basic common sense. It’s sad.

[Anonymous]

You had racist jurors that would not have found him guilty even if there were a clear video recording of the crime.
Despicable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You had racist jurors that would not have found him guilty even if there were a clear video recording of the crime.
Despicable.

This is my first response in this thread. It's interesting how so many of you are upset that a Black man got away with murder, but never blinked an eye of all the Black men wrongly accused, wrongly convicted, and/or wrongly lynched and executed. Cry me a river.

[Anonymous]

Most people who didn’t watch TV coverage knew the trial was over for the prosecution after the Furhman debacle. The sensationalism of witch-hunt TV that started with Nancy Grace led the country into erroneously thinking OJ was going to be convicted. Anyone who just followed the case without the TV pundits and legal eagles knew the case was favoring the defense.

The prosecution was good but the cops just majorly messed up. The lead detective having an obsession with Nicole’s breasts , bragging to colleagues that he slept with her (yes he did this), saying the n word repeatedly, and then pleading the fifth when asked if he planted the glove or any other blood evidence for the Oj case was prosecution suicide .

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone thinking he’s innocent has their head in the clouds. They found bloody clothes in his bedroom. Let me guess- you think Furman picked his licks and planted clothes in his bedroom? You guys are lost. Oj killed them- plain and simple

They didn’t take any evidence the night of. The cops “found” all the bloody evidence like the clothes and glove and shoe print later on. Why would Oj leave bloody clothes in his bedroom for weeks? He was on the run and gave a duffel bag to Robert Kardashian (something we still don’t know the contents of -Great job cops!!).

OJ should have been arrested the night of the murders and the home searched in the immediate present.

The defense was able to make a good case that any DNA evidence found was shaky because it was found by a racist cop with a propensity for planting evidence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people who didn’t watch TV coverage knew the trial was over for the prosecution after the Furhman debacle. The sensationalism of witch-hunt TV that started with Nancy Grace led the country into erroneously thinking OJ was going to be convicted. Anyone who just followed the case without the TV pundits and legal eagles knew the case was favoring the defense.

The prosecution was good but the cops just majorly messed up. The lead detective having an obsession with Nicole’s breasts , bragging to colleagues that he slept with her (yes he did this), saying the n word repeatedly, and then pleading the fifth when asked if he planted the glove or any other blood evidence for the Oj case was prosecution suicide .

+100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You had racist jurors that would not have found him guilty even if there were a clear video recording of the crime.
Despicable.

This is my first response in this thread. It's interesting how so many of you are upset that a Black man got away with murder, but never blinked an eye of all the Black men wrongly accused, wrongly convicted, and/or wrongly lynched and executed. Cry me a river.

No, you are making an false accusation.
Both are upsetting.

[Anonymous]

The jurors were sequestered from media coverage so they were able to see the case for what it was : questionable DNA evidence vs a history of DV .

Also, the defense at one point wanted Oj’s kids to testify something he was against . His kids were 8 and 5 and would’ve heard the barking dog during the time of the murders if the neighbors did . If Sydney believes it was a drug deal, she probably is right . There was another witness who was thrown out by the prosecution who said she saw 4 men walking to the home around 10:30pm.

[Anonymous]

From Alan Dershowitz:

To the 'armchair lawyers' who say the verdict in the so-called 'Trial of the Century' was a miscarriage of justice, I simply say: you don't understand the law. In the American justice system, guilt is not determined by the subjective morality of the public, but by the objective presentation of evidence and the establishment of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. As a member of OJ's defense team, I was able to persausively make the case that some of the evidence against him had been fabricated by Los Angeles Police Department officers. Now, that doesn't prove that OJ was innocent. But it does illuminate the reasoning behind the jury's legitimate decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From Alan Dershowitz:

To the 'armchair lawyers' who say the verdict in the so-called 'Trial of the Century' was a miscarriage of justice, I simply say: you don't understand the law. In the American justice system, guilt is not determined by the subjective morality of the public, but by the objective presentation of evidence and the establishment of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. As a member of OJ's defense team, I was able to persausively make the case that some of the evidence against him had been fabricated by Los Angeles Police Department officers. Now, that doesn't prove that OJ was innocent. But it does illuminate the reasoning behind the jury's legitimate decision.

Umm yeah ok. A member of OJ's defense team.
Really non-biased info you got there.

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Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!

I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy

But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.

The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman

Innocent people don't flee the scene with their passport, cash, a gun, and hair dye in their car.

Exactly how would hair dye help a black 6’1 200 lb ex football player with a distinct gait, who’s face was plastered all over America, escape detection?

Additionally, PP doesn't realize what black men living in very corrupt police districts felt in the 1990s. Every decade we have made more progress on social injustice, but even with all the progress since the civil rights era of the 1960's, in the 1990's, if you were a black man targeted by largely white police forces in corrupt areas, you were essentially assumed to be guilty until proven innocent. Plus, as was shown, the LA police had absolutely no compunction against planting evidence to support their charges. Back then, affluent, large-white communities blamed all their woes on minorities who were often scapegoated to protect white privileged individuals.

This is completely aside from whether OJ was guilty or innocent. The fact is that a black man in the 1990's being charged by the LAPD was virtually an open and shut case and the black man was going to be found guilty whether he was or not.

Yes, I know that many of you privileged white people cannot fathom how multi-tiered the justice system was against those that were non-white, but it was and anyone who was not white was very pleased to see someone escape from the very prejudicial justice system, even if he was guilty. It gave hope that maybe precedent would be set and would help the many innocent minority suspects from being ground up by the biased and bigoted system.

Evidence planting still goes on. A few years ago, an LAPD officer was recorded via body camera planting drugs in a black man’s car. Plenty of other incidents like this have been caught via body camera from NY, Baltimore, Louisiana , etc.

It wasn’t till cameras came around that people believed black people who were saying for decades that cops do plant things on guys All the time if they want to convict someone .

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone thinking he’s innocent has their head in the clouds. They found bloody clothes in his bedroom. Let me guess- you think Furman picked his licks and planted clothes in his bedroom? You guys are lost. Oj killed them- plain and simple

Both are true.

Oj did it and furman planted evidence

Not true. He did do it but furman didn’t plant evidence. No proof of that, whatsoever. They just proved he’s a racist

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Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!

I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy

But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.

The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman

Innocent people don't flee the scene with their passport, cash, a gun, and hair dye in their car.

Exactly how would hair dye help a black 6’1 200 lb ex football player with a distinct gait, who’s face was plastered all over America, escape detection?

Additionally, PP doesn't realize what black men living in very corrupt police districts felt in the 1990s. Every decade we have made more progress on social injustice, but even with all the progress since the civil rights era of the 1960's, in the 1990's, if you were a black man targeted by largely white police forces in corrupt areas, you were essentially assumed to be guilty until proven innocent. Plus, as was shown, the LA police had absolutely no compunction against planting evidence to support their charges. Back then, affluent, large-white communities blamed all their woes on minorities who were often scapegoated to protect white privileged individuals.

This is completely aside from whether OJ was guilty or innocent. The fact is that a black man in the 1990's being charged by the LAPD was virtually an open and shut case and the black man was going to be found guilty whether he was or not.

Yes, I know that many of you privileged white people cannot fathom how multi-tiered the justice system was against those that were non-white, but it was and anyone who was not white was very pleased to see someone escape from the very prejudicial justice system, even if he was guilty. It gave hope that maybe precedent would be set and would help the many innocent minority suspects from being ground up by the biased and bigoted system.

We fathom the injustices toward black men completely. We cannot fathom what that has to do with letting a man get away with brutally murdering two innocent people. There is no parallel here. You are broken inside if you get satisfaction from a cold-blooded murderer walking free as some sort of proxy for innocent people mistreated by the justice system. That's why this was so horrifying. That anyone could see this disgusting case as somehow retribution for the mistreatment of black people. It's twisted.

If Nicole had been black, would you have cheered? I'm guessing not. So if you cheered the murderer of Nicole, it speaks to your deep seated hatred of white people. If you see all white people as the same and worthy of being murdered, who is the real racist here?

Actions have consequences… blame the actions not the consequences.

Had you stepped up stop the actions (injustices) the consequence (another injustice) would not have happened.

People hate consequences.

WTF!?!!?!? How is a narcissistic, abusive sportstar’s continued beating, then stalking, and ultimate bloody stabbing murdering his ex-wife and some guy who may or not have been interested in her a legitimate consequence of past racial injustices?!?!

There is something very deeply wrong with you, PP.

Listen, I'm very white and grew up very WASPy, although working class. I went to an elite law school so I've rubbed elbows with all SES. And I spent years in the criminal justice system, beginning with a defender clinic in DC courts and spanning four other jurisdictions in the northeast, southwest, mountain west as well as the DC experience - I spent a number of those years as a victim advocate and then as a prosecutor, so I have worked very closely with police, state crime labs, etc. I have seen it all personally and spent decades studying it via other cases beyond my own.

Our criminal justice system is systemically racist. It is. Anyone denying that is a liar or fool. If we are still arguing about this today, we are lost. It is profoundly broken and needs massive reforms to be unbroken.

No, it's not great that OJ was acquitted in part because some juror(s) wanted to nullify the law due to their feelings about systemic racism that dated back to the inception of LA policing. But I cannot blame them, because I could list all day cases of black men and women who were actually innocent being railroaded and even lynched with the tacit approval of the American criminal injustice system.

But I will also say as an experienced defender and prosecutor, that it didn't even need to be a factor that juror(s) had feelings about system racism in LA policing. Mark Fuhrman taking the 5th when asked if he planted evidence in the case was enough reasonable doubt to drive a steamroller through - it was absolutely enough reason, in and of itself, for the jury to acquit. My outrage over the verdict was not about the jury - I sympathize with them to a person for having to endure the spectacle of that trial. The outrage over the verdict that people of whatever color hold should be directed exactly where it belongs: at the LA police. It's not even the fault of the prosecutors, because they can only do so much when one of the lead detectives who handled crucial evidence is on record as a vocal racist and cannot deny under oath planting evidence in the case.

Mark Fuhrman, as a shining example of everything wrong with LA policing, is the reason OJ Simpson walked. Stop blaming anyone else.

Mark furman decided to take the 5th on every question that day including if he planted evidence. He didn’t. He was a racist but he didn’t have to plant a thing. How would get into Oj’s car, sprinkle blood on oj’s bedroom. Use your head. It would be impossible for him to have planted evidence where they found it

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone thinking he’s innocent has their head in the clouds. They found bloody clothes in his bedroom. Let me guess- you think Furman picked his licks and planted clothes in his bedroom? You guys are lost. Oj killed them- plain and simple

Both are true.

Oj did it and furman planted evidence

Not true. He did do it but furman didn’t plant evidence. No proof of that, whatsoever. They just proved he’s a racist

I am a former prosecutor. There is no reason under the sun that a police officer would have to plead the fifth on a question about whether they planted evidence other than that they planted evidence and know that evidence of that might exist somewhere.

OJ provided multiple vials of blood to the LA Police while in custody, and multiple people were involved in that process. Fuhrman knew he could be vulnerable.

Or, the only other explanation is that Fuhrman was clean on that issue but sold out his testimony to the defense, and was therefore corrupt one way or the other.

Everyone is angry that a guilty guy went free. But our entire system is built on the premise that rather ten guilty go free than one innocent be wrongfully convicted. For once that premise worked for a black man and people are insane over it.

That George Floyd trial we watched, where a cop who killed a citizen went to prison for decades? Happens so infrequently it is a statistical anomaly. That’s the way the system usually works.