Susan Wojcicki’s freshman son at Cal died from a fentanyl od

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Illegal drugs have been around forever and are not the fault of any one political party or presidential administration.

I spent a fair amount of time in the trenches as a prosecutor, and saw close up how drug war funding fuels aggressive policing but doesn’t create any real positive outcomes in the community.

We will never solve the problem of drugs - I’m sure humans have been finding ways to get high since they lived in caves.

We should redirect massive amounts of funding from interdiction to addiction prevention and treatment programs, with a very heavy emphasis on building a much bigger and better capacity for mental health services across the board. Most addicts have trauma and are self medicating. Half of all children experience some kind of violence in childhood. Many of the judgy mcjudgertons on this board who rail against drug use are drinking too much, eating too much, sex addicted, etc. as ways of dealing with their own unresolved MH problems.

We’d accomplish more by building a more compassionate society, but that’s not a winning campaign slogan so of course it won’t fly.

Everywhere decriminalization has been tried it’s been a disaster. You can’t make people go to treatment. Maybe we should have laws that make it easier to commit people with untreated mental illness, but the principal foes of that are the same people who are pushing for decriminalization. Enabling disguised as “compassion is not a kindness.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Migrants, come on in; defund cops; no cash bail; giving drugs to addicts; letting protesters “blow off steam”; being nice to Iran; on & on & on.

+1

[Anonymous]

Susan was strong Hillary supporter, and voted for Biden. She is smart enough to realize that no amount of money can protect her and her family from stupid policies she voted for. Look at Biden's son too. Such a losers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is Susan Wojkicki?

You tube ceo
Ex- sister in law to Google founder
Her mother wrote a book about how she raised amazing children

I remember how hard I rolled my eyes about the book. I don’t think people understand how much of their (parenting) success is due to luck.

Yep, unfortunately the first thing I though of when I heard this news is the incredibly smug mother (grandmother of the boy) bragging about her parenting and raising her daughters to be successful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just had Fentanyl death in the family.They were not a drug user at all, but down on their luck for about year and half. Went out drinking, made it home with some drugs and was found few days later. Heart had stopped.
No way did they think that a little bit of drugs could kill them. Not a user, did not even previously know people who could get them the drugs. Looking into their phone would have given them a clue where they went and how they got them. Nobody did that.

So, seller are not being punished as only few customers die. The fentanyl crisis hasn't reached half the people yet.

Very sad. This is why I object to the term overdose thrown at many of these cases. That’s not what really happened.

Excellent point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Prosecutor here- fentanyl is everywhere. There is so so so much of it. Nothing to do about it but wait for it to run its course like crack. I see so many ruined lives day in and day out. I don't even know if legalization would end the problem. Only venting here because I deal w this situation daily and feel exhausted and hopeless.

Genuine question: do you think harsher penalties for distributing would do anything? Or is the horse too far out of the barn?

Personally I don't think harsher sentences would do anything (unless we're talking un-American penalties, which are out of the question, obviously.) On the flip side, I don't think decriminalization would have a huge impact either (I used to think this was the solution when I was a baby attorney.) Most users are people suffering from addiction, homelessness, mental health issues, and other such deep-rooted, difficult to solve problems. They are ridiculously, painfully young. They are (to my understanding) not at a place where they appreciate/care about the repercussions of their criminal records. Both the sellers and the users need the high. They don't care about the conviction. It's all really very sad. And we keep burning money to do busy work supposedly fighting drugs.

Thank you for answering. I appreciate your insight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Illegal drugs have been around forever and are not the fault of any one political party or presidential administration.

I spent a fair amount of time in the trenches as a prosecutor, and saw close up how drug war funding fuels aggressive policing but doesn’t create any real positive outcomes in the community.

We will never solve the problem of drugs - I’m sure humans have been finding ways to get high since they lived in caves.

We should redirect massive amounts of funding from interdiction to addiction prevention and treatment programs, with a very heavy emphasis on building a much bigger and better capacity for mental health services across the board. Most addicts have trauma and are self medicating. Half of all children experience some kind of violence in childhood. Many of the judgy mcjudgertons on this board who rail against drug use are drinking too much, eating too much, sex addicted, etc. as ways of dealing with their own unresolved MH problems.

We’d accomplish more by building a more compassionate society, but that’s not a winning campaign slogan so of course it won’t fly.

Or, the addicts start with pot and other gateway substances as fun party drugs and progress from there.

Yet that is not actually what happens with opiods especially oxy. My son was prescribed oxy when he was 6 years old. 6 YEARS OLD.

My H was just like the cop in Dopesick... he was like that drug is not safe for kids give him tylenol with codeine.

They were like not it's really, really safe.... it wasn't and people were giving that sh*t to kids.

Same. Years ago I wouldn’t let my kid have it for a minor fracture and the doctors acted like I was torturing him. He was fine.

But years later when the same kid went to the ER with a horrific broken bone (compound fracture), they wouldn’t give him more than advil. That was actual torture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prosecutor here- fentanyl is everywhere. There is so so so much of it. Nothing to do about it but wait for it to run its course like crack. I see so many ruined lives day in and day out. I don't even know if legalization would end the problem. Only venting here because I deal w this situation daily and feel exhausted and hopeless.

Genuine question: do you think harsher penalties for distributing would do anything? Or is the horse too far out of the barn?

Personally I don't think harsher sentences would do anything (unless we're talking un-American penalties, which are out of the question, obviously.) On the flip side, I don't think decriminalization would have a huge impact either (I used to think this was the solution when I was a baby attorney.) Most users are people suffering from addiction, homelessness, mental health issues, and other such deep-rooted, difficult to solve problems. They are ridiculously, painfully young. They are (to my understanding) not at a place where they appreciate/care about the repercussions of their criminal records. Both the sellers and the users need the high. They don't care about the conviction. It's all really very sad. And we keep burning money to do busy work supposedly fighting drugs.

Interesting points. What do you mean by "busy work" fighting drugs? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

I encouraged my kids to violate school policy by carrying Narcan in their school backpacks.

I posted in the Narcan thread in the Teens section.

Some DCUM-a$$h0le smugly replied that “her children did not hang around with trash” so her kids did not need to save anyone’s life with Narcan.

Question for that Anonymous user:

was Susan Wojcicki’s son “trash?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I encouraged my kids to violate school policy by carrying Narcan in their school backpacks.

I posted in the Narcan thread in the Teens section.

Some DCUM-a$$h0le smugly replied that “her children did not hang around with trash” so her kids did not need to save anyone’s life with Narcan.

Question for that Anonymous user:

was Susan Wojcicki’s son “trash?”

It might have been this thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1154462.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just had Fentanyl death in the family.They were not a drug user at all, but down on their luck for about year and half. Went out drinking, made it home with some drugs and was found few days later. Heart had stopped.
No way did they think that a little bit of drugs could kill them. Not a user, did not even previously know people who could get them the drugs. Looking into their phone would have given them a clue where they went and how they got them. Nobody did that.

So, seller are not being punished as only few customers die. The fentanyl crisis hasn't reached half the people yet.

Very sad. This is why I object to the term overdose thrown at many of these cases. That’s not what really happened.

Excellent point.

But technically, that's exactly what it is. He may not have known about the existence of fentanyl in what he took, but he definitely overdosed on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Illegal drugs have been around forever and are not the fault of any one political party or presidential administration.

I spent a fair amount of time in the trenches as a prosecutor, and saw close up how drug war funding fuels aggressive policing but doesn’t create any real positive outcomes in the community.

We will never solve the problem of drugs - I’m sure humans have been finding ways to get high since they lived in caves.

We should redirect massive amounts of funding from interdiction to addiction prevention and treatment programs, with a very heavy emphasis on building a much bigger and better capacity for mental health services across the board. Most addicts have trauma and are self medicating. Half of all children experience some kind of violence in childhood. Many of the judgy mcjudgertons on this board who rail against drug use are drinking too much, eating too much, sex addicted, etc. as ways of dealing with their own unresolved MH problems.

We’d accomplish more by building a more compassionate society, but that’s not a winning campaign slogan so of course it won’t fly.

Everywhere decriminalization has been tried it’s been a disaster. You can’t make people go to treatment. Maybe we should have laws that make it easier to commit people with untreated mental illness, but the principal foes of that are the same people who are pushing for decriminalization. Enabling disguised as “compassion is not a kindness.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Migrants, come on in; defund cops; no cash bail; giving drugs to addicts; letting protesters “blow off steam”; being nice to Iran; on & on & on.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't Biden make fentanyl a priority

*checks notes*

https://apnews.com/article/biden-addiction-and-treatment-alaska-united-states-government-state-of-the-union-address-7592deaf631e2b842607368979f3c15c

He is.

Moron.

Have a seat.

I hope your kids or someone you love end up brain dead from an overdose.

Stop it. The children are innocent. They suffer enough with parents like these, who are already brain dead.

[Anonymous]

If you live in DC, they will mail two doses of Narcan for free to your DC address. Just ordered mine thanks to this thread.

Why wouldn’t I keep some around, or show your kids how to use it? They can save someone’s life. There is no greater act of service than saving someone’s life.

https://www.healthsupportnow.org/order-naloxone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is Susan Wojkicki?

You tube ceo
Ex- sister in law to Google founder
Her mother wrote a book about how she raised amazing children

I remember how hard I rolled my eyes about the book. I don’t think people understand how much of their (parenting) success is due to luck.

Yep, unfortunately the first thing I though of when I heard this news is the incredibly smug mother (grandmother of the boy) bragging about her parenting and raising her daughters to be successful.

Same here

I wonder if this will break thru their delusions about open borders, mass migration, lawlessness, etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is Susan Wojkicki?

You tube ceo
Ex- sister in law to Google founder
Her mother wrote a book about how she raised amazing children

Talk about chutzpah. When kids grow up rich "on Stanford's campus" with a Berkeley-alum hyper-connected media mom and Harvard alum dad who's a top jefe at Stanford. Wow, I'm so surprised the gen X kids turned out successful during the tech and dot com boom in SV.

These were my exact sentiments.