Banning AR-15s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

NYC implementation of Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional and numerous studies did NOT find that it impacted crime. One did, others didn't. Do you not understand how research works?

As liberals say, constitution is flexible. Studies said one thing, but Times Square was sure as hell safer, as were other areas

Universal mandatory background checks, a persistent searchable database, et cetera are not unconstitutional. Background checks have been upheld, restrictions on felons have been upheld, a database is not an infringement. It can and should be done.

Just curious, but what benefit do you see with a searchable database? Searchable for what exactly?

wont really matter in a few years with 3d printers. You can't stop weapons prolifiration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

I can do all kinds of illegal garbage right now, I don't need to wait 30 years. So what. People make crap choices every day. Always will.

God willing in less than 30 years you will be protected and sentenced for illegal weapons and your uterus will legally be no one's business other than your own.

[Anonymous]

Prosecuted* and sentenced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

I can do all kinds of illegal garbage right now, I don't need to wait 30 years. So what. People make crap choices every day. Always will.

God willing in less than 30 years you will be protected and sentenced for illegal weapons and your uterus will legally be no one's business other than your own.

and who will you get to enforce your unconsitituional laws? you better hope AI bots are advanced enough because every abled bodied male won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

I can do all kinds of illegal garbage right now, I don't need to wait 30 years. So what. People make crap choices every day. Always will.

God willing in less than 30 years you will be protected and sentenced for illegal weapons and your uterus will legally be no one's business other than your own.

and who will you get to enforce your unconsitituional laws? you better hope AI bots are advanced enough because every abled bodied male won't.

I guess the able bodied females will have to get it done as usual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

I can do all kinds of illegal garbage right now, I don't need to wait 30 years. So what. People make crap choices every day. Always will.

God willing in less than 30 years you will be protected and sentenced for illegal weapons and your uterus will legally be no one's business other than your own.

and who will you get to enforce your unconsitituional laws? you better hope AI bots are advanced enough because every abled bodied male won't.

I guess the able bodied females will have to get it done as usual.

Good point. They don't waste half their lives bogged down by overcompensating for perceived little "inadequacies".

[Anonymous]

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ah yes, ordinances from a couple of western towns and laws meant to keep blacks from owning arms in slave state are enough to invalidate the second amendment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US will never ban nor rid AR15s or any firepower out en masse in public hands now. It's too late to bring back the genie in the bottle.

The lobby is too strong and too rich to defeat. What we may do short of "banning" is to enact slow (very slow) progressive changes by way of ammunition/background checks/safety laws/training and education checks in order to use firearms. It would be very slow road and very small changes that would be able to pass however.

It is the same as the healthcare system in US I have said - it's impossible to change to what makes sense because it's now reality. Too many are used to the system established. Tailoring it is our only chance but any change is going to be miniscule.

In your dreams NRA. Blah blah all you want. At some point, if the money and power on the other side gets control of SCOTUS then you will be pushed back. You showed even exactly how it is done so thank you for that I suppose.

see you in 30 years when another 500 million guns would've been made/sold.

Abortion was a legal protected right and then presto chango, it was gone. The shock has worn off and the realization of how to get what you want is setting in. In 30 years, Roe and the assault weapons ban will be back.

that is cool and all, but in 30 years i will be able to print an AR from my 3d printer (heck i can do that now).

I can do all kinds of illegal garbage right now, I don't need to wait 30 years. So what. People make crap choices every day. Always will.

God willing in less than 30 years you will be protected and sentenced for illegal weapons and your uterus will legally be no one's business other than your own.

and who will you get to enforce your unconsitituional laws? you better hope AI bots are advanced enough because every abled bodied male won't.

I guess the able bodied females will have to get it done as usual.

Yes, you'll keyboard us to death.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

NYC implementation of Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional and numerous studies did NOT find that it impacted crime. One did, others didn't. Do you not understand how research works?

As liberals say, constitution is flexible. Studies said one thing, but Times Square was sure as hell safer, as were other areas

Universal mandatory background checks, a persistent searchable database, et cetera are not unconstitutional. Background checks have been upheld, restrictions on felons have been upheld, a database is not an infringement. It can and should be done.

Just curious, but what benefit do you see with a searchable database? Searchable for what exactly?

wont really matter in a few years with 3d printers. You can't stop weapons prolifiration.

3D printing still takes significant gunsmithing skills to assemble a functional weapon - also, you can't 3D print some of the most critical parts - unless you don't mind having a gun that will likely blow up in your face for lacking the strength needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

NYC implementation of Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional and numerous studies did NOT find that it impacted crime. One did, others didn't. Do you not understand how research works?

As liberals say, constitution is flexible. Studies said one thing, but Times Square was sure as hell safer, as were other areas

Universal mandatory background checks, a persistent searchable database, et cetera are not unconstitutional. Background checks have been upheld, restrictions on felons have been upheld, a database is not an infringement. It can and should be done.

Just curious, but what benefit do you see with a searchable database? Searchable for what exactly?

I think if the database showed that someone who is not a licensed gun dealer bought 200 9mm pistols over the span of a year it ought to raise some red flags - and maybe someone should go and visit that person and check to make sure they still have every one of those 200 pistols in their possession. If not, they need to disclose every person they went to.

How do you think a lot of these gangs and thugs get guns? There is an entire underground black market for guns that needs to be shut down.

[Anonymous]

Maybe what we need is a group of volunteer attorneys, who, for every time there is a mass shooting, sue the NRA and the gun manufacturers and every Republican lawmaker who opposed common sense gun laws.