Biden impeachment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, Kevin.

I think this calls for a ruh-roh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, Kevin.

I think this calls for a ruh-roh.

Ruh roh indeed! 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

They did subpoena them. They even published a bunch of them.

The Archives is bound by the Trump OLC opinion that an impeachment inquiry without a house vote is invalid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

They did subpoena them. They even published a bunch of them.

The Archives is bound by the Trump OLC opinion that an impeachment inquiry without a house vote is invalid.

Please link to the site that reports on subpoenaed bank records of Biden family members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

They did subpoena them. They even published a bunch of them.

The Archives is bound by the Trump OLC opinion that an impeachment inquiry without a house vote is invalid.

Please link to the site that reports on subpoenaed bank records of Biden family members.

Did the House subpoena them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/kevin-mccarthy-biden-impeachment-inquiry-natural-step-forward-rcna102050

Is Congress really going to do this?

The GOP crazies want this and McCarthy wants to remain as Speaker. Personally, I think this hurts them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

They did subpoena them. They even published a bunch of them.

The Archives is bound by the Trump OLC opinion that an impeachment inquiry without a house vote is invalid.

Please link to the site that reports on subpoenaed bank records of Biden family members.

Did the House subpoena them?

According to the August 9, 2023 memo linked above, they haven't yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

They did subpoena them. They even published a bunch of them.

The Archives is bound by the Trump OLC opinion that an impeachment inquiry without a house vote is invalid.

Please link to the site that reports on subpoenaed bank records of Biden family members.

Did the House subpoena them?

According to the August 9, 2023 memo linked above, they haven't yet.

They must be waiting to have a special double secret probation impeachment inquiry subpoena.

[Anonymous]

Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

what change are you referring to in this case? honest question i have not read all the prior 12 pages

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:just so everyone is clear who is calling the shots

+1

[Anonymous]

Republican Senators pointing and laughing
“Senate Republicans say the House GOP doesn’t appear to have enough evidence to pursue impeachment proceedings against President Biden and are skeptical about the prospect of setting up an inquiry with multiple committees already investigating the president and his son, Hunter Biden.
Republican senators are highly skeptical that Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) could even muster enough votes in the House to pass an article of impeachment and warn it would be quickly dismissed if it ever got to the Senate, possibly without going to a full trial.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4198517-senate-gop-says-house-lacks-evidence-for-impeachment/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

Trump committed and admitted obvious crimes. The proof was public and indisputable. Republicans are charging into Impeachment with no evidence of a crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna post this once, and you guys can keep arguing back and forth.


This is an Impeachment Inquiry!, not an Impeachment!

What is the difference, the Inquiry gives congress more power to investigate the executive branch that it did before. It specifically now allows congress to demand bank records and other sources of information where before, they had no right to ask. If gives congress more power to “Investigate” potential wrongdoings. It does not necessarily mean there will be an Impeachment, but could if bank records or other items are found on Biden. If no crimes were found to be committed, no impeachment would then follow.

Make sense?


https://time.com/6313320/mccarthy-launches-house-impeachment-inquiry-biden/#

No, it doesn’t make sense. There’s no special impeachment inquiry subpoena that is more powerful than a congressional subpoena. And the House already has all of the bank records they sought.

Since you did not read the article, here is the sort that NOW gives congress subpoena powers to request more bank record and other documents. Up until this point, they did not subpoena powers. Did that Help? Maybe read the article.




Here is the highlight.


A formal impeachment inquiry provides Congress with its apex of power, giving the legislative body more discretion to dig into Biden’s family finances. Investigators could, for example, issue subpoenas for the bank records of Biden and his relatives. The mechanism could also put Biden in a bind should he refuse to comply with any of the subpoenas, according to Michael Conway, an attorney who served as counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s 1974 impeachment into Nixon. If Biden doesn’t comply with the inquiry, that in itself is an impeachable offense. Indeed, one of the three articles of impeachment considered against Nixon was for defying the inquiry, which sought to obtain his infamous White House tape recordings.

They already have all of the bank records and other records, and tax forms. There is nothing else to subpoena.

Not entirely accurate. According to this August 9 memo from the Committee on Oversight and Accountability staff: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

And, as noted by a PP, there are outstanding requests with the National Archives.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

Then why don;t the subpoena those and see what the facts are before going to the impeachment route? Seems like they are putting the cart before the horse.