yes |
Why? |
We’re talking prestige here. Rice is hardly a household name. Same with Washington U. Sorry. |
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Prestige is a silly metric but I think most schools have stronger regional than national reputations, which I don’t intend as a slight in anyway. The ones that transcend regional familiarity and wow equally everywhere are (IMO) all or at least most Ivies, Stanford, Chicago, and MIT. Possibly Duke. Honestly I think that’s it. I went to a state school personally. |
| MIT is one of the few that you have to show an SAT/ACT. No TO at MIT. They also don’t seem to judge on legacy and even their athletes get no bump. |
In terms of familiarity, the vast majority of people don't know UChicago and think it's a state school, or even specifically University of Illinois Chicago (UIC). Most people also have no clue about Dartmouth or Cornell, maybe not Brown either. I'd say the academically uber elite schools that also have wide national recognition are: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, Wharton (UPenn often confused for Penn State), Duke, Yale, Caltech (for people who are in STEM/have watched Big Bang Theory), and Columbia. I really think that's it. |
My bad. Harvard Yale Princeton Stanford MIT Cal Tech UPenn Duke Dartmouth Brown Cornell (UChicago, Columbia, Hopkins, Northwestern) Williams Amherst Swarthmore (Not including Pomona b/c less known in the DMV) |
I don’t disagree wildly but I’d stand by Chicago, especially above Caltech. I’m from Virginia and have virtually no familiarity and thought that was a state school until recently, lol. (Maybe because of VT?) I think Penn is more well known than Wharton specifically but I get the Penn State mixup. I agree not everyone can name the whole Ivy League. |
Bingo |
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Harvard
Yale Stanford MIT Princeton Columbia Duke UChicago Northwestern UPenn Dartmouth Cornell Brown Amherst Williams Johns Hopkins Caltech Navy Army That's about it. |
| I think HYPMS, Caltech and Wharton are the most prestigious. As a math major, I consider CMU, Harvey Mudd, and Berkeley also very prestigious. |
remove Columbia entirely |
agreed, but Cornell is an outlier in the ivy - there is a bigger disparity in both prestige and academic reputation between Cornell and the next lowest ranked ivy (Dartmouth), than between Dartmouth and Harvard or Princeton. I wouldn’t quibble between Cornell, Vandy, and Rice - all probably about the same in 2nd tier |
Emory? Lemme guess, PP, where you or your kids went/go to school . . . |