What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider below “elite”:

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


+1. This is the definitive list.


Does Northwestern really belong on this list? Northwestern is a fine school with great research programs, but I just don’t think of it as being in the same league as Johns Hopkins or UChicago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider below “elite”:

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


+1. This is the definitive list.


Does Northwestern really belong on this list? Northwestern is a fine school with great research programs, but I just don’t think of it as being in the same league as Johns Hopkins or UChicago.


Yes, in fact it’s probably better and has a broader range of classes.
Anonymous
You’ve probably never been to Northwestern. But Hopkins, Yale, Penn, & Columbia are all good research universities in neighborhoods that necessitate a huge police presence. So maybe it makes your brain feel good to say Chicago is in a similar neighborhood so it’s good, but Northwestern is in a nice neighborhood, so despite all other evidence to the contrary, it can’t be good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider below “elite”:

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


+1. This is the definitive list.


Does Northwestern really belong on this list? Northwestern is a fine school with great research programs, but I just don’t think of it as being in the same league as John’s Hopkins or UChicago.


I've always considered Northwestern to be peer schools with UChicago (perhaps with UC getting the edge for its tremendous economics program), but a half-step above Johns Hopkins.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


You included Northwestern, and Cornell, but not Columbia, Swarthmore, Berkeley, or Tufts. Here are the most selective colleges with at least 100 Bethesda applications according to Bethesda magazine from two years ago. It shows applications, admitted, and enrolled.

Yale University 280 9 5 3%
Harvard University 293 10 7 3%
Columbia University 327 12 10 4%
Stanford University 280 12 8 4%
Swarthmore College 115 5 2 4%
Johns Hopkins University 440 21 13 5%
Brown University 376 19 14 5%
Princeton University 275 15 10 5%
MIT 195 11 8 6%
Penn 456 30 18 7%
University of Chicago 207 15 10 7%
Dartmouth College 160 12 8 8%
Duke University 346 26 16 8%
UC Berkeley 338 26 10 8%
Tufts University 310 25 12 8%
Northwestern University 359 31 19 9%
Cornell University 495 44 26 9%
Vanderbilt University 291 27 9 9%
University of Virginia 589 56 11 10%
UNC Chapel Hill 481 47 20 10%
Rice University 144 18 5 13%
Carnegie Mellon U 313 40 25 13%
University of Michigan 608 81 28 13%
UCLA 325 45 16 14%
Washington U St. Louis 248 35 19 14%
USC 287 43 9 15%
UT Austin 157 25 9 16%
New York University 467 78 44 17%
Villanova University 133 24 5 18%
Wesleyan University 105 19 7 18%
Northeastern University 544 105 22 19%
Emory University 243 47 21 19%
Tulane University 198 42 19 21%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider below “elite”:

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


+1. This is the definitive list.


Does Northwestern really belong on this list? Northwestern is a fine school with great research programs, but I just don’t think of it as being in the same league as John’s Hopkins or UChicago.


I've always considered Northwestern to be peer schools with UChicago (perhaps with UC getting the edge for its tremendous economics program), but a half-step above Johns Hopkins.


I'd consider them peers. NW is often ranked higher than Chicago outside of USNWR. It was regularly ranked as high or higher than Chicago by USNWR in the late 90s and 2000s too (pre Chicago's all out marketing campaign to boost apps and awareness).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve lived and worked in North America, Europe and Asia, and I think these are the schools that are recognised and considered prestigious globally:

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Wharton

Oxford, Cambridge, LSE

INSEAD

Honourable mentions: Columbia, Berkeley, UChicago, Caltech


You must be in finance--I doubt anybody abroad who's outside finance would recognize Wharton. And I went to Wharton!

LSE isn't all that prestigious, according to many international economists at the World Bank that I've talked to.

Yes to Columbia and Berkeley.

Add Sciences Po.[/quite

Props to the PP still trying to make Columbia happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins


You included Northwestern, and Cornell, but not Columbia, Swarthmore, Berkeley, or Tufts. Here are the most selective colleges with at least 100 Bethesda applications according to Bethesda magazine from two years ago. It shows applications, admitted, and enrolled.

Yale University 280 9 5 3%
Harvard University 293 10 7 3%
Columbia University 327 12 10 4%
Stanford University 280 12 8 4%
Swarthmore College 115 5 2 4%
Johns Hopkins University 440 21 13 5%
Brown University 376 19 14 5%
Princeton University 275 15 10 5%
MIT 195 11 8 6%
Penn 456 30 18 7%
University of Chicago 207 15 10 7%
Dartmouth College 160 12 8 8%
Duke University 346 26 16 8%
UC Berkeley 338 26 10 8%
Tufts University 310 25 12 8%
Northwestern University 359 31 19 9%
Cornell University 495 44 26 9%
Vanderbilt University 291 27 9 9%
University of Virginia 589 56 11 10%
UNC Chapel Hill 481 47 20 10%
Rice University 144 18 5 13%
Carnegie Mellon U 313 40 25 13%
University of Michigan 608 81 28 13%
UCLA 325 45 16 14%
Washington U St. Louis 248 35 19 14%
USC 287 43 9 15%
UT Austin 157 25 9 16%
New York University 467 78 44 17%
Villanova University 133 24 5 18%
Wesleyan University 105 19 7 18%
Northeastern University 544 105 22 19%
Emory University 243 47 21 19%
Tulane University 198 42 19 21%


In my experience, what a student learns almost always matters more than the name on the diploma. At all but a few of schools on this list educating the undergraduates is treated as a third priority. I've seen telling young adults their futures depend on college brand awareness at the expense of prioritizing actual learning undermine their confidence to rely on their own skills, preferring the credibility that comes with institutional marketing. For some these schools might actually be the best fit, it's just that prioritizing degree of perceived prestige above all else for some mythological "average" super-student isn't the best way to make such an individual call, imo. Regardless, good luck to all.
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