SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer

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So should we have special symbols for businesses that will specify who they will serve and who they won’t? I think I prefer to avoid any business that doesn’t want to serve say a middle age, atheist, former goths, who like EDM and peloton. I don’t want to know their religion hates me and forbids my kind.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.


That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.



She’s not discriminating against them.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.


That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.



But there would be outrage if I said I didn’t want Christian customers.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.



She’s not discriminating against them.



If they want a website about, say, their lawn care business, she would do it.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.


That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.



But there would be outrage if I said I didn’t want Christian customers.


Yes you can’t discriminate BECAUSE they ate Christian
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?


Ya drunk the kool-aide!
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.



She’s not discriminating against them.

Yes. She. Is.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.


Even if we accept your premise, it doesn't explain why their legal opinion was wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.


Even if we accept your premise, it doesn't explain why their legal opinion was wrong.

Why is it right then? I mean right in the moral sense? How does this make society better?
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.


Even if we accept your premise, it doesn't explain why their legal opinion was wrong.

Why is it right then? I mean right in the moral sense? How does this make society better?


Again, that's not SCOTUS's job. You can say that you disagree with their interpretation of the constitution and explain why they are wrong. Or, you can fault the constitution for not being up to your moral standards. But SCOTUS isn't a moral authority. They are a legal authority.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.


Even if we accept your premise, it doesn't explain why their legal opinion was wrong.

Why is it right then? I mean right in the moral sense? How does this make society better?


Again, that's not SCOTUS's job. You can say that you disagree with their interpretation of the constitution and explain why they are wrong. Or, you can fault the constitution for not being up to your moral standards. But SCOTUS isn't a moral authority. They are a legal authority.

I’m not asking what SCOTUS’ job is. I’m asking YOU.
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Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?

Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.


So? She doesn’t believe in gay marriage. I wouldn’t do it either.

Gay marriage exists. It’s not something to “believe” in. The issue is that she doesn’t like it.


She believes it's an abomination. Christianity has rules against encouraging or participating in other people's win.



It has tons of rules, like no tattoos or shellfish but for some reason some rules are ok to ignore while others aren’t. The belief system is random and illogical.

Exactly. She’s just cherry-picking church doctrines to find a pretext for her bigotry.


Bigotry isn't illegal in and of itself.

What is your point? There was a law that made her conduct illegal here until SCOTUS shut it down by claiming her bigoted feeling supersede the rights of others.


No. No one has a “right” to the services of someone else.

People have rights under the law to not be discriminated against.

That goes for Christians too. If she doesn't want to create a web site with the story of a gay couple, that's fair. There are other choices and this decision shields people from being forced to say and create or design when it goes against their religion. All this temper tantrum is not warranted.

Religion is not a get out of jail free card. As plenty of people pointed out, there are countless religious rules and doctrines that people like this woman ignore. If she were truly concerned about violating her beliefs, she’d be refusing to make a website for anyone who marries outside whatever random Protestant sect she happens to be a part of. But that’s not what she sued about. She sued specifically because doesn’t want to serve gay people. And it’s because she doesn’t like them. Everybody knows this. Religion is just an excuse to dress up her personal animosity toward an entire group of people.


Even if we accept your premise, it doesn't explain why their legal opinion was wrong.

Why is it right then? I mean right in the moral sense? How does this make society better?


Again, that's not SCOTUS's job. You can say that you disagree with their interpretation of the constitution and explain why they are wrong. Or, you can fault the constitution for not being up to your moral standards. But SCOTUS isn't a moral authority. They are a legal authority.

I’m not asking what SCOTUS’ job is. I’m asking YOU.


Fine. Personally, I think it was a dick move on her part. Legally, she has a right to be a dick.
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