Annandale Band Director Claims Racism

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Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

Yeah... I don't think you're a former student. But everyone here has opinions.

Students should not be calling their public school teachers y their first name.

Um, how old are you?

How old are you? My kids have never ever called their teachers by their first name, nor their private music instructor or orchestra by their first name.

Grandma, you’d hate HB Woodlawn in Arlington. Students even call the administrators by their first names!

Is this a school policy or kids just being disrespectful?

Using first names with teachers and admin is part of the school culture there. Students at HB even have a say in the hiring and firing of teachers and admin. It’s an unusual public school.

Whatever, start an HB thread if you want.

There are immature teachers at other schools who don’t set boundaries and want to be called by their first names - but then get angry when they want to assert authority and find out they aren’t respected.

They have a bad principal and that is not normal for students to call teachers and staff by their first names. It happens in private, not public.

Oh my goodness, chill out. I am a band kid 25+ years removed from a high school that was decidedly old school. As soon as we graduated, our young band director preferred for us to call him by his first name. We weren’t students anymore, we were adults. Some of us went on to work with the band, others became friends, others became fellow teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

Yeah... I don't think you're a former student. But everyone here has opinions.

Students should not be calling their public school teachers y their first name.

Um, how old are you?

How old are you? My kids have never ever called their teachers by their first name, nor their private music instructor or orchestra by their first name.

Grandma, you’d hate HB Woodlawn in Arlington. Students even call the administrators by their first names!

Is this a school policy or kids just being disrespectful?

Using first names with teachers and admin is part of the school culture there. Students at HB even have a say in the hiring and firing of teachers and admin. It’s an unusual public school.

Whatever, start an HB thread if you want.

There are immature teachers at other schools who don’t set boundaries and want to be called by their first names - but then get angry when they want to assert authority and find out they aren’t respected.

They have a bad principal and that is not normal for students to call teachers and staff by their first names. It happens in private, not public.

Oh my goodness, chill out. I am a band kid 25+ years removed from a high school that was decidedly old school. As soon as we graduated, our young band director preferred for us to call him by his first name. We weren’t students anymore, we were adults. Some of us went on to work with the band, others became friends, others became fellow teachers.

Big difference.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

Yeah... I don't think you're a former student. But everyone here has opinions.

Students should not be calling their public school teachers y their first name.

Um, how old are you?

How old are you? My kids have never ever called their teachers by their first name, nor their private music instructor or orchestra by their first name.

Grandma, you’d hate HB Woodlawn in Arlington. Students even call the administrators by their first names!

Is this a school policy or kids just being disrespectful?

Using first names with teachers and admin is part of the school culture there. Students at HB even have a say in the hiring and firing of teachers and admin. It’s an unusual public school.

Whatever, start an HB thread if you want.

There are immature teachers at other schools who don’t set boundaries and want to be called by their first names - but then get angry when they want to assert authority and find out they aren’t respected.

They have a bad principal and that is not normal for students to call teachers and staff by their first names. It happens in private, not public.

Oh my goodness, chill out. I am a band kid 25+ years removed from a high school that was decidedly old school. As soon as we graduated, our young band director preferred for us to call him by his first name. We weren’t students anymore, we were adults. Some of us went on to work with the band, others became friends, others became fellow teachers.

Big difference.

What difference? The poster who called the band director by his first name is a former student. That's all we really know about it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

Yeah... I don't think you're a former student. But everyone here has opinions.

Students should not be calling their public school teachers y their first name.

Um, how old are you?

How old are you? My kids have never ever called their teachers by their first name, nor their private music instructor or orchestra by their first name.

Grandma, you’d hate HB Woodlawn in Arlington. Students even call the administrators by their first names!

Is this a school policy or kids just being disrespectful?

Using first names with teachers and admin is part of the school culture there. Students at HB even have a say in the hiring and firing of teachers and admin. It’s an unusual public school.

Whatever, start an HB thread if you want.

There are immature teachers at other schools who don’t set boundaries and want to be called by their first names - but then get angry when they want to assert authority and find out they aren’t respected.

They have a bad principal and that is not normal for students to call teachers and staff by their first names. It happens in private, not public.

Oh my goodness, chill out. I am a band kid 25+ years removed from a high school that was decidedly old school. As soon as we graduated, our young band director preferred for us to call him by his first name. We weren’t students anymore, we were adults. Some of us went on to work with the band, others became friends, others became fellow teachers.

Big difference.

What difference? The poster who called the band director by his first name is a former student. That's all we really know about it.

The difference is that is was AFTER she graduated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

I wrote this using Tyron’s first name mainly because he no longer has my respect due to his actions compounded with the fact that I have graduated and he is no longer my teacher.

It does amaze me, however, how people paid more attention to the use of his first name than to my attempt to provide a glimpse of what the band went through or even just another side of the story.

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lol ok

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Anonymous wrote:As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded.

I wrote this using Tyron’s first name mainly because he no longer has my respect due to his actions compounded with the fact that I have graduated and he is no longer my teacher.

It does amaze me, however, how people paid more attention to the use of his first name than to my attempt to provide a glimpse of what the band went through or even just another side of the story.

I appreciated the perspective. While our band directors had their idiosyncrasies, when I was in school, there was none of that drama. It was a great experience for all of us, sorry to hear that it wasn't for you.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a former student who was taught by Tyron, the article leaves out countless details and spins other details to fit his agenda. To start, the marching band was very diverse and less than a fourth of the members were white. The claims of racism are absurd and it blows my mind how out of touch he is with his own actions. While Tyron was a charismatic guy from the outside, once it came to his students there was constant manipulation, hypocrisy that he was proud to admit to, inability to take fault, and more. During my time as his student I witnessed as Tyron bad mouthed students behind their backs to other students and parents alike, encouraged a fight between students, was aware of harassment that took place in his classroom and took no action. These are only a few of the reasons students of almost every race disliked him and wanted him gone. Not once did the students who went and talked to administration about Tyron’s hurtful and degrading actions do it because of his race. Additionally, there was very little instruction given by Tyron. Yes, the marching band was award winning but that was with the help of outside instructors. It became evident Tyron didn’t contribute much when concert band taught by him alone wasn’t so “award winning.” Tyron gave very little critique and offered very little advice as to how to improve our sound/blend. For Tyron to have blamed his “resignation” on his race is preposterous and unfounded. [/quote]

I wrote this using Tyron’s first name mainly because he no longer has my respect due to his actions compounded with the fact that I have graduated and he is no longer my teacher.

It does amaze me, however, how people paid more attention to the use of his first name than to my attempt to provide a glimpse of what the band went through or even just another side of the story.[/quote]

I’m sorry you that you were left feeling that way. However, I must ask. Was any of this addressed to Mr. Barnes? Did anyone bother to tell him so that he could make changes? If it was so bad, why not bring it to his attention?

[Anonymous]

She was well known to talk about him negatively. Some of the band kids complained she was stretching the truth too. Ya cant please everyone.